[Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread Marc Carson
I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for
tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP alone?
I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller abnormalities
or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi.

Here's an example:
http://www.friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/before-after.png

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Marc Carson wrote:
 I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for
 tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP
 alone? I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller
 abnormalities or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi.

I expect there are; what have you tried? One of the first that comes to 
my mind is the unsharp mask (found in 2.6 under Filters  enhance?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread mac9416
This is something I've struggled with as well. I'm not sure if I've
ever found a good solution, but  Selective Gaussian blur comes to
mind. It's in Filters  Blur  Selective Gaussian Blur. Just tinker
with the settings and see what happens.

Is there somewhere we can see one of the scans you're working with?

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Marc Carson m...@marccarson.com wrote:
 I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for
 tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP alone?
 I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller abnormalities
 or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi.
 Here's an example:
 http://www.friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/before-after.png
 Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread mac9416
OK, try this: apply a Gaussian Blur to the image (I used it at 7 or 8
pixels) to smooth those lines up, and then apply a Unsharp Mask to
sharpen it again. You should end up with fairly smooth lines. You can,
of course, tinker with the settings of both filters to fine-tune the
result.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Marc Carson m...@marccarson.com wrote:
 Is there somewhere we can see one of the scans you're working with?

 Sure. Here's an original panel straight from the scanner:
 http://friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/originalpanel.png
 I tried unsharp mask and selective gaussian blur, but no luck either way
 (converted to RGB).
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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.6.10 for Windows tool keep flickering

2010-07-14 Thread Dirk K.
On 13.07.2010 19:29, Dirk K. wrote:

There's an updated 2.6.10 installer at
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html and there have been reports
that this fixes the problem.


Thank you for your help Michael. Unfortunately neither the 32 installation
file nor the new 32/64 instalation did help to solve the problem :-(



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Dirk K. (via www.gimpusers.com)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
m...@marccarson.com (2010-07-14 at 1409.01 -0700):
  Is there somewhere we can see one of the scans you're working with?
 Sure. Here's an original panel straight from the scanner:
 http://friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/originalpanel.png
 I tried unsharp mask and selective gaussian blur, but no luck either way
 (converted to RGB).

Pretty old tech and that works in greyscale: gaussian blur (different
scans, different values, try 5-15 for your png) followed by curves
with a sigmoid shape (make flat zones both at start and end with a
sharp / in the middle, for your png start with with 3 squares flat at
min, then 2 for the climb, and 3 at max).

At worst case, mask the plants and apply different settings: big blur
in the plants destroys them, and small blur keeps lots of noise in
the car lines.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

2010-07-14 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Marc Carson m...@marccarson.com wrote:
 I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for
 tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP alone?
 I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller abnormalities
 or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi.
 Here's an example:
 http://www.friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/before-after.png
 Thanks!

Yes, you may want a combination of
1. Despeckle (to eliminate specks)
2. GMIC Anisotropic Smoothing (GMIC plugin:gmic.sf.net)
with a relatively large radius, large tensor-smoothing value, and
anisotropy = 1.0. Experiment with different values of 'sharpness' --
you may need to reduce it below the default 0.70 to get as much
smoothing as you want.

Another solution:
If you are running linux, you will probably have the tools to make a
batch-processing script or Python GIMP plugin that uses PoTrace
(commandline tool;same algorithym as is integrated into Inkscape).
Potrace has options to output a PGM (ie a greyscale raster, rather
than a vector -- like SVG etc) to do tracing/smoothing.
This could be the fastest and most reliable, high quality option, once
you have worked out the options appropriate for your work.

The most important options for Potrace would probably be

--alphamax N #how smooth the output is. 0..1.43, default 1.0.
--blacklevel N #the black/white threshold -- in the range 0..1.
--turdsize N #this discards junk pixels -- pixel islands of N size
--pgm  #set output format to PGM raster, or..
--svg   #you could get an SVG -- if you wanted a larger output than input.
--width N
--height N # set output dimensions

Hope one of those suggestions help. :)
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