[Gimp-user] Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

2005-04-13 Thread David Marrs
I posted this to the c.g.a.gimp group initially but was told that this 
might be a better place for it. I wanted to discuss it before submitting 
it as a feature requeset to bugzilla. That way other users of the GIMP 
can bring their ideas to it (like, whether or not they like it!) and I 
can make it a bit more focused where it's uncertain (see *highlighted* 
sentance):

- - - -
It once again occured to me after recently discovering the stroke/fill 
option that there are many commonly used operations associated with 
tools that are difficult for users to find. Drawing shapes is a good 
example of this. GIMP - it has to be said - is not the most intuitive 
application in the world.

In fact, to utilise tools, one must either open a menu or go to one of 
the dialogues docked in another window to get at the options one needs, 
which can be frustrating if it's obscured by the window you're working 
in. I'm often making 3 or 4 clicks to make a simple change.

So, why not associate a toolbox with each tool that can be opened by 
right clicking in the image window. Currently, right clicking simply 
opens the menubar, which can be accessed twice already from the image 
window: it seems like a waste of a mouse button to me. Much better to be 
able to perform common tasks, such as path to selection or stroke 
path instead.

*Precisely what should go in these toolboxes I'm not sure.*
You could also make it flexible and do what you do already with 
dialogues, providing a number of presets while allowing users the option 
to customise the toolkit themselves (a system that works excellently imo).

- - - -
Btw, this is (more or less) my first post to the mailing list. So I'd 
just like to say hello to all other gimpers out there and, of course, 
thank you to any developers watching.

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

2005-04-13 Thread Alan Horkan

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, David Marrs wrote:

 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:28 +0100
 From: David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

 I posted this to the c.g.a.gimp group initially but was told that this

the wha'?  not familiar with the term c.g.a.gimp

 might be a better place for it. I wanted to discuss it before submitting
 it as a feature requeset to bugzilla. That way other users of the GIMP
 can bring their ideas to it (like, whether or not they like it!) and I
 can make it a bit more focused where it's uncertain (see *highlighted*
 sentance):

 - - - -

 It once again occured to me after recently discovering the stroke/fill
 option that there are many commonly used operations associated with
 tools that are difficult for users to find. Drawing shapes is a good
 example of this. GIMP - it has to be said - is not the most intuitive
 application in the world.

Rather than creating complex selectoins and then stroking them, Gfig can
be used to create some intersting results too.

request for a shape tool
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65197


 In fact, to utilise tools, one must either open a menu or go to one of
 the dialogues docked in another window to get at the options one needs,
 which can be frustrating if it's obscured by the window you're working
 in. I'm often making 3 or 4 clicks to make a simple change.


 So, why not associate a toolbox with each tool that can be opened by
 right clicking in the image window. Currently, right clicking simply

If anything the GNU Image Manipulation Program should be moving away from
requiring right click for anything as it makes work more cumbersome for
anyone using a pen interface or accessibility tools.

 opens the menubar, which can be accessed twice already from the image
 window:

If look back into the history of the gimp and see the stuggle it was to
get the menubar added at all you will realise that there are many users
who do actually like having to make that extra click anytime they want to
do anything and you would have to pry the right click menu out of their
cold dead hands.

 it seems like a waste of a mouse button to me. Much better to be
 able to perform common tasks, such as path to selection or stroke
 path instead.

Most other applications use the right click menu as _context menu_
providing a short list of the most used or most relevant functions for a
particular situation.  I am afraid this is not a change the developers
would be able to make without pissing off a lot of existing users and
more importantly I do not think it is even a change they would
particularly want to make.


 You could also make it flexible and do what you do already with
 dialogues, providing a number of presets while allowing users the option
 to customise the toolkit themselves (a system that works excellently imo).

I think there is some sort of plan to make it easier to have presets for
the various Filters, not sure though, might just be wishful thinking on my
part.

 Btw, this is (more or less) my first post to the mailing list. So I'd
 just like to say hello to all other gimpers out there and, of course,
 thank you to any developers watching.

The developers do read this too.

Later

Alan Horkan

Inkscape http://inkscape.org
Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org


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Re: [Gimp-user] Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

2005-04-13 Thread Michael Schumacher
Alan Horkan wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, David Marrs wrote:
 
 
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:28 +0100
From: David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Gimp-user] Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

I posted this to the c.g.a.gimp group initially but was told that this
 
 
 the wha'?  not familiar with the term c.g.a.gimp

This is an abbrevation type commonly used for newsgroups, in this case
comp.graphics.apps.gimp


HTH,
Michael

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