Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-27 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" 

> On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:
> > Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:
> >
> >> This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
> >>
> > You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup.

> Not true.
>
> amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still
> have the delay over multiple sessions.

Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform.
You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though.

> I don't really see it as buggy.

It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be one.

> If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the
> folders time-and-again.

If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about the caching 
based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was there previously and 
has been changed, its query() procedure will be run again. See 
http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html for a more detailed 
description of a plug-in's key procedures.

So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I wrote 
before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush through that stage.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-27 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr

On 06/27/13 02:42, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Von: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" 



On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote:

Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič:


This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into
it.


You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on
startup.



Not true.

amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and
still have the delay over multiple sessions.


Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform.
You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though.


Before (2.8.4) it was close to 15 seconds. I've not really counted 
though as I just go to another works-space and prepare something else or 
check FB or something.



I don't really see it as buggy.


It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be
one.


I know, just saying I didn't have a problem with it.


If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning
the folders time-and-again.


If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about
the caching based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was
there previously and has been changed, its query() procedure will be
run again. See http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html
for a more detailed description of a plug-in's key procedures.

So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I
wrote before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush
through that stage.


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Well, it seems to be the case now with the latest update 2.8.6 (e.g. it 
rushes through that step where before it never did). Because I used to 
that delay when I launched it after upgrading to 2.8.6 (admittedly only 
two launches since the update, but uncountable ones before) I would just 
launch and go do something else for a few moments while GIMP organized. 
After my last post to the list I had need to launch it again (to export 
some tif to jpg for use on Facebook) and paid attention and it just flew 
through like normal.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines

2013-06-27 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> From: dlabo...@gillis.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:14:40 -0500
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines
> 
> Dear Gimp,
> 
> I absolutely love the program I am just trying to figure something out. When 
> I start a new project and I start editing the photo (i.e. drawing on it with 
> the paintbrush) I encounter a problem when I try to select certain colors and 
> delete. So lets say I have three colors in my image. I do a little drawing 
> and editing on my image and then I want each separate color to be a separate 
> layer. So I select two of the colors and delete them. Any things that isn't 
> that third color or where the two colors I deleted used to be now has these 
> "editing lines" is what I want to call them. You can see faint lines where I 
> had made slight changes to the image with lets say the paintbrush. HOW DO I 
> GET RID OF THOSE LINES? Some help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> Thomas
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Most selection tools have an anti-aliasing feature which improves the 
visual quality of the selection's edge pixels, but it also means that if you're
 doing a cut and paste, there may be bits and traces of color left 
behind in areas that you would expect to have nothing left.  Try 
switching the selectors' antialising off and see if this improves your 
results.

-- Stratadrake
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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.


  
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[Gimp-user] FW: Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines

2013-06-27 Thread B. Jack
Forgot to reply all.  Sorry. :(

From: gau_ve...@hotmail.com
To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:42:23 -0700




If you are drawing with the paintbrush tool the edges are drawn soft or 
"fuzzy"and the color selection tools will fail to select portions of the 
softened edges as blending to soften the edges brings the color closer to the 
colors of the neighborhood versus the color you are trying to select.  You can 
try increasing the threshold setting of the fuzzy select and color select 
tools, or paint your lines with the pencil tool rather than the paintbrush 
which guarantees a hard, solid, non-blended edge that the color select tool can 
select without loss.  The select tools also have their own antialiasing feautre 
which should be turned off if exact selections are needed.

> From: strata_ran...@hotmail.com
> To: dlabo...@gillis.com; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:56:57 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines
> 
> > From: dlabo...@gillis.com
> > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:14:40 -0500
> > Subject: [Gimp-user] Fixing Deleted Left Behind Lines
> > 
> > Dear Gimp,
> > 
> > I absolutely love the program I am just trying to figure something out. 
> > When I start a new project and I start editing the photo (i.e. drawing on 
> > it with the paintbrush) I encounter a problem when I try to select certain 
> > colors and delete. So lets say I have three colors in my image. I do a 
> > little drawing and editing on my image and then I want each separate color 
> > to be a separate layer. So I select two of the colors and delete them. Any 
> > things that isn't that third color or where the two colors I deleted used 
> > to be now has these "editing lines" is what I want to call them. You can 
> > see faint lines where I had made slight changes to the image with lets say 
> > the paintbrush. HOW DO I GET RID OF THOSE LINES? Some help would be much 
> > appreciated. Thanks.
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
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> 
> Most selection tools have an anti-aliasing feature which improves the 
> visual quality of the selection's edge pixels, but it also means that if 
> you're
>  doing a cut and paste, there may be bits and traces of color left 
> behind in areas that you would expect to have nothing left.  Try 
> switching the selectors' antialising off and see if this improves your 
> results.
> 
> -- Stratadrake
> strata_ran...@hotmail.com
> 
> Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.
> 
> 
> 
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