Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp not working with Tablet

2013-10-23 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 06:55:20 +, Thomas Taylor wrote:

 For some reason MS seems to think that the
 code has to change every 2-5 years instead of just adding/improving things.
 That's why one must buy newer versions of software programs to be compatible
 with the new version of MS.

This is actually completely false. Microsoft goes above and beyond to make
sure old software still works on their newer OSes. Much of the bloat in
Windows is there due to all the compatibility hacks they have to maintain
to ensure old software doesn't break.

Tablet support in GIMP doesn't work because it's broken in Windows GTK+
port after 2.16 - this is the reason GIMP 2.6 on Windows never moved beyond
GTK+ 2.16, but with 2.8 a newer version was required, which unfortunately
brought tablet breakage.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp not working with Tablet

2013-10-22 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
Monica Thomson blame_the_bunn...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Recently got a new computer, and one of the first things I did was to upload
 the latest GIMP. My Wacom Bamboo Pen tablet doesn't work completely with it.
 EVERYTHING worked perfectly on my old computer (Windows 7, Gimp 2.6, same
 tablet). I currently have Windows 8, Gimp 2.8, same tablet. After removing
 2.8 at one point, I tried 2.6 again...hoping it would work then...nope. I've
 also downloaded the most recent tablet driver from Wacom...still nothing.
 What happens is that the program opens and I'm able to actually move the pen
 around the tablet and have the mouse and clicking options. I'm able to
 paint. BUT...I'm not able to change pressure settings, which is highly
 important for what I need. I've gone through the all of the forums I could
 find on this. Most say to go through Edit; Preferences; Input Devices, and
 make sure that the tablet is selected. It doesn't even show up there. I'm
 just about at my wit's end nowand I NEED to get some commissions done.
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Hi Monica,
Microsoft did a complete re-write of the code base between win 7 and win 8.
Also be aware that windows support for anything not the latest and greatest
has some serious flaws.  Apple OSX and Linux have extensive support for older
hardware (and usually software).  For some reason MS seems to think that the
code has to change every 2-5 years instead of just adding/improving things.
That's why one must buy newer versions of software programs to be compatible
with the new version of MS.

Tom

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp not working with Tablet

2013-10-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
 Monica Thomson wrote:

 Recently got a new computer, and one of the first things I did was to upload
 the latest GIMP. My Wacom Bamboo Pen tablet doesn't work completely with it.
 EVERYTHING worked perfectly on my old computer (Windows 7, Gimp 2.6, same
 tablet). I currently have Windows 8, Gimp 2.8, same tablet. After removing
 2.8 at one point, I tried 2.6 again...hoping it would work then...nope. I've
 also downloaded the most recent tablet driver from Wacom...still nothing.
 What happens is that the program opens and I'm able to actually move the pen
 around the tablet and have the mouse and clicking options. I'm able to
 paint. BUT...I'm not able to change pressure settings, which is highly
 important for what I need. I've gone through the all of the forums I could
 find on this. Most say to go through Edit; Preferences; Input Devices, and
 make sure that the tablet is selected. It doesn't even show up there. I'm
 just about at my wit's end nowand I NEED to get some commissions done.
 -Monica

 Hi Monica,
 Microsoft did a complete re-write of the code base between win 7 and win 8.
 Also be aware that windows support for anything not the latest and greatest
 has some serious flaws.  Apple OSX and Linux have extensive support for older
 hardware (and usually software).  For some reason MS seems to think that the
 code has to change every 2-5 years instead of just adding/improving things.
 That's why one must buy newer versions of software programs to be compatible
 with the new version of MS.

Tom,

GIMP 2.8 relies on a newer version of GTK+ where advanced input
devices support on Windows is broken beyond repair.

If painting is crucial, the recommendation is to install GIMP 2.6 and
use it until the port to GTK+3 is done.

Alexandre
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