Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, C R wrote:

> It seems the mesh transform tool is still freezing up GIMP (every time),

Unfortunately, Michael hasn't yet found the time to implement the
changes he had planned to address this. Would be nice if someone got
on board to fix this.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[C R]

Been using 2.9.3 in production all week. Let me first say that I am truly
astounded at the plethora of extra features that have been added, many many
of which will become staples in my workflow from now on. Everyone deserves
high praise for this release, it's been rock solid so far.

It seems the mesh transform tool is still freezing up GIMP (every time),
but apart from that, nothing has crashed, and it's like early x-mas times a
thousand to see all the features implemented and usable. So thanks again!

-C

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Tobias Jakobs 
wrote:

> 2015-11-30 20:03 GMT+01:00 Asif Lodhi :
> >
> > As an aside, I also came to know about HarfBuzz while reading the release
> > notes about the implementation components.In naming "HarfBuzz", the
> > developer has actually swapped the letters "u" and "a" - so the real name
> > should have been "HurfBazz", which are basically two Urdu (or may be
> > Persian as well) words "Hurf" (meaning single character/letter) and Bazz
> > (something/somebody that does everything with something). So, HurfBazz
> > really means something whose main job is to manipulate characters which
> is
> > what the code does. The developer has written the correct HurfBazz (حرف
> > باز) in Persian on his own page but he has switched the letters "u" and
> "a"
> > in the English version "HarfBuzz", perhaps just for fun.
> > The name is very fitting for the software but I wonder why he swapped the
> > characters u and a.
> >
> I think the only one who can tell you the answer is Behdad Esfahbod. I
> think you can find his E-Mail address on his homepage:
> http://behdad.org/
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[C R]

Sorry, that should be "cage transform" tool. That's the one that freezes
when the you draw the complete cage.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:58 PM, C R  wrote:

> Been using 2.9.3 in production all week. Let me first say that I am truly
> astounded at the plethora of extra features that have been added, many many
> of which will become staples in my workflow from now on. Everyone deserves
> high praise for this release, it's been rock solid so far.
>
> It seems the mesh transform tool is still freezing up GIMP (every time),
> but apart from that, nothing has crashed, and it's like early x-mas times a
> thousand to see all the features implemented and usable. So thanks again!
>
> -C
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Tobias Jakobs 
> wrote:
>
>> 2015-11-30 20:03 GMT+01:00 Asif Lodhi :
>> >
>> > As an aside, I also came to know about HarfBuzz while reading the
>> release
>> > notes about the implementation components.In naming "HarfBuzz", the
>> > developer has actually swapped the letters "u" and "a" - so the real
>> name
>> > should have been "HurfBazz", which are basically two Urdu (or may be
>> > Persian as well) words "Hurf" (meaning single character/letter) and Bazz
>> > (something/somebody that does everything with something). So, HurfBazz
>> > really means something whose main job is to manipulate characters which
>> is
>> > what the code does. The developer has written the correct HurfBazz (حرف
>> > باز) in Persian on his own page but he has switched the letters "u" and
>> "a"
>> > in the English version "HarfBuzz", perhaps just for fun.
>> > The name is very fitting for the software but I wonder why he swapped
>> the
>> > characters u and a.
>> >
>> I think the only one who can tell you the answer is Behdad Esfahbod. I
>> think you can find his E-Mail address on his homepage:
>> http://behdad.org/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[C R]

Thanks Elle. I may try again next weekend. In the mean time I can look
forward to using all the new features and improvements. Thanks for the
response!
On 29 Nov 2015 6:39 pm, "Elle Stone"  wrote:

> On 11/29/2015 12:41 PM, C R wrote:
>
>> I could not successfully get gegl to build from source.
>>
>
> My apologies for not responding sooner. It sounds like you might have had
> an issue with establishing the prefix, either during installation or
> possibly when starting/running GIMP.
>
> If you decide to try installing from git again, I know of two people who
> successfully (and very recently) installed and ran babl/GEGL/GIMP from git
> on Ubuntu following these (no doubt overly verbose :) ) instructions:
> http://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/build-gimp-in-prefix-for-artists.html
>
> Normally I run Gentoo, but several months ago I followed these same
> instructions to build babl/GEGL/GIMP from git on Debian Sid and OpenSUSE.
>
> Best,
> Elle
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[C R]

I could not successfully get gegl to build from source. I spent ages trying.
Luckily someone updated the edge ppa and it now installs fine:

http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/gimp-29-210-development-builds.html

I then had to run:
sudo apt-get build-dep gegl

then
sudo apt-get install gegl

and now it runs fine.

Hope that helps someone.

-C
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Tobias Jakobs]

2015-11-30 20:03 GMT+01:00 Asif Lodhi :
>
> As an aside, I also came to know about HarfBuzz while reading the release
> notes about the implementation components.In naming "HarfBuzz", the
> developer has actually swapped the letters "u" and "a" - so the real name
> should have been "HurfBazz", which are basically two Urdu (or may be
> Persian as well) words "Hurf" (meaning single character/letter) and Bazz
> (something/somebody that does everything with something). So, HurfBazz
> really means something whose main job is to manipulate characters which is
> what the code does. The developer has written the correct HurfBazz (حرف
> باز) in Persian on his own page but he has switched the letters "u" and "a"
> in the English version "HarfBuzz", perhaps just for fun.
> The name is very fitting for the software but I wonder why he swapped the
> characters u and a.
>
I think the only one who can tell you the answer is Behdad Esfahbod. I
think you can find his E-Mail address on his homepage:
http://behdad.org/

Regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Asif Lodhi]

Awesome! Great work, folks!

On 28 November 2015 at 01:26, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> > ...and there's more info in the news post:
>
>

> > http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/
>
> > Alex
>

As an aside, I also came to know about HarfBuzz while reading the release
notes about the implementation components.In naming "HarfBuzz", the
developer has actually swapped the letters "u" and "a" - so the real name
should have been "HurfBazz", which are basically two Urdu (or may be
Persian as well) words "Hurf" (meaning single character/letter) and Bazz
(something/somebody that does everything with something). So, HurfBazz
really means something whose main job is to manipulate characters which is
what the code does. The developer has written the correct HurfBazz (حرف
باز) in Persian on his own page but he has switched the letters "u" and "a"
in the English version "HarfBuzz", perhaps just for fun.
The name is very fitting for the software but I wonder why he swapped the
characters u and a.

Thanks to guys behind GNome project, I am now able to type in my native
Urdu language on Linux. And since English is used in Pakistan mostly for
any and all work, Urdu has become limited to chats with friends or poetry
or text messages via sms. However, they write write Urdu using English
alphabets! But I really wanted to write real Urdu, instead of typing urdu
using English alphabets (they call it transliteration, right?), and I can
now write both English and Urdu in the same document (in LibreWord, etc and
even in text editors such as GEdit) thanks to your combined efforts. I can
even name my files using Urdu! And I see Urdu filenames in Urdu in Nautilus
along with English! Great work! Just Perfect!

I also tried in older Linux distros but wasn't successful. Perhaps I didn't
make the due efforts. But this time around, everything works
out-of-the-box, at least, in the latest versions of Ubuntu and Fedora.

In short, A BIG THANK YOU to you all! Really, Thank you very much.

-Asif
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Marco Ciampa]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 07:03:02PM +, Asif Lodhi wrote:
> Awesome! Great work, folks!
> 
> On 28 November 2015 at 01:26, Alexandre Prokoudine <
> alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> > > ...and there's more info in the news post:
> >
> >
> 
> > > http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/
> >
> > > Alex
> >
> 
> As an aside, I also came to know about HarfBuzz while reading the release
> notes about the implementation components.In naming "HarfBuzz", the
> developer has actually swapped the letters "u" and "a" - so the real name
> should have been "HurfBazz", which are basically two Urdu (or may be
> Persian as well) words "Hurf" (meaning single character/letter) and Bazz
> (something/somebody that does everything with something). So, HurfBazz
> really means something whose main job is to manipulate characters which is
> what the code does. The developer has written the correct HurfBazz (حرف
> باز) in Persian on his own page but he has switched the letters "u" and "a"
> in the English version "HarfBuzz", perhaps just for fun.
> The name is very fitting for the software but I wonder why he swapped the
> characters u and a.
> 
> Thanks to guys behind GNome project, I am now able to type in my native
> Urdu language on Linux. And since English is used in Pakistan mostly for
> any and all work, Urdu has become limited to chats with friends or poetry
> or text messages via sms. However, they write write Urdu using English
> alphabets! But I really wanted to write real Urdu, instead of typing urdu
> using English alphabets (they call it transliteration, right?), and I can
> now write both English and Urdu in the same document (in LibreWord, etc and
> even in text editors such as GEdit) thanks to your combined efforts. I can
> even name my files using Urdu! And I see Urdu filenames in Urdu in Nautilus
> along with English! Great work! Just Perfect!
> 
> I also tried in older Linux distros but wasn't successful. Perhaps I didn't
> make the due efforts. But this time around, everything works
> out-of-the-box, at least, in the latest versions of Ubuntu and Fedora.
> 
> In short, A BIG THANK YOU to you all! Really, Thank you very much.
> 
> -Asif

Stop flattering and start translating, that GIMP is missing the Urdu
manual translation: http://docs.gimp.org/


:-))


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[C R]

Thanks to the development team and everyone who has contributed to this
monumental step! I use GIMP every day and have processed over one hundred
thousand images with it already. So thanks so much for this tremendous
gift, I can't wait to test the new features!

One question, can someone put together a step-by-step for compiling it
(including babl and gegl) under Ubuntu? I've been trying, but can't seem to
get gegl installed correctly. It says it's not installed, when clearly it
is (even the latest version from git).

Thanks for any help.

-C

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

> Congratulations!
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Michael Natterer wrote:
>
> Hi,
>>
>> We originally wanted to get this done on GIMP's 20th
>> birthday last week, but...
>>
>> Anyway, here is the first development release in the
>> GIMP 2.9.x series leading to GIMP 2.10.
>>
>> This is an unstable development preview and might crash
>> or do whatever. If you try it for work, please save your
>> images more often.
>>
>> GIMP 2.9's major new feature is GEGL (www.gegl.org), a graph
>> based image processing framework. The entire old pixel
>> manipulation core of GIMP has been removed and replaced
>> by GEGL. Most internal processing is now done at floating
>> point precision, and images can be kept around at 16-bit
>> and 32-bit integer and floating point precisions. Many
>> plug-ins have already been replaced by GEGL operations
>> and can be previewed live on the canvas.
>>
>> For a complete list of changes since 2.8.0 please see the
>> "Changes" section below. We will also post more detailed
>> news about GIMP 2.9 on www.gimp.org soon, stay tuned.
>>
>> Happy GIMPing,
>> --Mitch
>>
>>
>> Download
>> 
>>
>>   GIMP 2.9.2 is available from:
>>
>>   http://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.9/
>>
>>   and from the mirrors listed at:
>>
>>   http://www.gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors
>>
>>   Please use the torrent, it distributes
>>   the download bandwidth across all mirrors:
>>
>>   http://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.9/gimp-2.9.2.tar.bz2.torrent
>>
>>   The checksum of the tarball is:
>>
>>   aa8a846a497e3328c5b7d2fd33f5cf63  gimp-2.9.2.tar.bz2
>>
>>
>>
>> Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.8.0 to GIMP 2.9.2
>> =
>>
>> Core:
>>
>>   The core got completely ported to GEGL, listing all changes involved
>>   would be too much, therefore we summarize the changes in app/ per
>>   source subdirectory:
>>
>>   base
>>   composite
>>   paint-funcs:
>>   - Remove these directories, they contained the old pixel
>> manipulation functions
>>
>>   config:
>>   - Remove GimpBaseConfig, add GimpGeglConfig
>>   - Add config options for new features
>>
>>   core:
>>   - Add some things that used to live in base/, like the temp-buf,
>> boundary and histogram code
>>   - Port all functions to GEGL and higher bit depths
>>   - Keep the image around as GEGL graph, all other compositing is gone
>>   - Add non-destructive drawable filters, but use them only for
>> previews
>>   - Implement the floating selection as drawable filter
>>   - Implement GimpImageMap using drawable filters
>>   - Move batch processing to gimp-batch.[ch]
>>   - Run batch commands in an already running GIMP instance
>>   - Ported almost everything from filenames/FILE/fd to GFile/GIO
>>   - Be smarter about migrating old user config files
>>   - Move many object struct members to private structs
>>
>>   file:
>>   - Support GIO-ported file load/save procs, handle remote files
>> generically
>>
>>   - Add content locking to items to prevent them from being edited
>>   - Add position locking to items to prevent them from being translated
>>   - Implement all color management in the core
>>   - Add an automatic palette of recently used colors
>>   - Implement metadata handling in the core
>>
>>   gegl:
>>   - Now contains utility functions and abstractions to work with
>> GEGL more easily
>>   - Move all operations to the new operations/ directory
>>
>>   operations:
>>   - New directory containing all GIMP-internal GEGL operations
>> and their config objects (if any)
>>   - Add a correct version of the overlay layer mode
>>   - Add LCH layer modes
>>
>>   paint:
>>   - Port all paint cores to Gegl
>>   - Add MyPaint brush paint core
>>
>>   pdb:
>>   - Add compat procedures that work like the removed plug-ins
>>   - Use the new GimpValueArray, GValueArray got deprecated
>>
>>   plug-in:
>>   - Allow plug-ins to access image data at full bit depth
>>   - Add a compat mode so unported plug-ins always get 8-bit data
>>
>>   text:
>>   - Port text rendering to GEGL
>>   - Use HarfBuzz to inspect fonts for creating an example string
>>
>>   xcf:
>>   - Add zlib compression to XCF loading/saving
>>
>>
>> GUI:
>>
>>   - Add GUI to handle the new high bit depths and conversion between
>> them
>>   - Add new action group "filters" which can run arbitrary GEGL ops
>>   - Add lots of 

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We originally wanted to get this done on GIMP's 20th
> birthday last week, but...
>
> Anyway, here is the first development release in the
> GIMP 2.9.x series leading to GIMP 2.10.

...and there's more info in the news post:

http://www.gimp.org/news/2015/11/27/gimp-2-9-2-released/

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

[Boudewijn Rempt]

Congratulations!

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Michael Natterer wrote:


Hi,

We originally wanted to get this done on GIMP's 20th
birthday last week, but...

Anyway, here is the first development release in the
GIMP 2.9.x series leading to GIMP 2.10.

This is an unstable development preview and might crash
or do whatever. If you try it for work, please save your
images more often.

GIMP 2.9's major new feature is GEGL (www.gegl.org), a graph
based image processing framework. The entire old pixel
manipulation core of GIMP has been removed and replaced
by GEGL. Most internal processing is now done at floating
point precision, and images can be kept around at 16-bit
and 32-bit integer and floating point precisions. Many
plug-ins have already been replaced by GEGL operations
and can be previewed live on the canvas.

For a complete list of changes since 2.8.0 please see the
"Changes" section below. We will also post more detailed
news about GIMP 2.9 on www.gimp.org soon, stay tuned.

Happy GIMPing,
--Mitch


Download


  GIMP 2.9.2 is available from:

  http://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.9/

  and from the mirrors listed at:

  http://www.gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors

  Please use the torrent, it distributes
  the download bandwidth across all mirrors:

  http://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.9/gimp-2.9.2.tar.bz2.torrent

  The checksum of the tarball is:

  aa8a846a497e3328c5b7d2fd33f5cf63  gimp-2.9.2.tar.bz2



Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.8.0 to GIMP 2.9.2
=

Core:

  The core got completely ported to GEGL, listing all changes involved
  would be too much, therefore we summarize the changes in app/ per
  source subdirectory:

  base
  composite
  paint-funcs:
  - Remove these directories, they contained the old pixel
manipulation functions

  config:
  - Remove GimpBaseConfig, add GimpGeglConfig
  - Add config options for new features

  core:
  - Add some things that used to live in base/, like the temp-buf,
boundary and histogram code
  - Port all functions to GEGL and higher bit depths
  - Keep the image around as GEGL graph, all other compositing is gone
  - Add non-destructive drawable filters, but use them only for
    previews
  - Implement the floating selection as drawable filter
  - Implement GimpImageMap using drawable filters
  - Move batch processing to gimp-batch.[ch]
  - Run batch commands in an already running GIMP instance
  - Ported almost everything from filenames/FILE/fd to GFile/GIO
  - Be smarter about migrating old user config files
  - Move many object struct members to private structs

  file:
  - Support GIO-ported file load/save procs, handle remote files 
    generically

  - Add content locking to items to prevent them from being edited
  - Add position locking to items to prevent them from being translated
  - Implement all color management in the core
  - Add an automatic palette of recently used colors
  - Implement metadata handling in the core

  gegl:
  - Now contains utility functions and abstractions to work with
GEGL more easily
  - Move all operations to the new operations/ directory

  operations:
  - New directory containing all GIMP-internal GEGL operations
and their config objects (if any)
  - Add a correct version of the overlay layer mode
  - Add LCH layer modes

  paint:
  - Port all paint cores to Gegl
  - Add MyPaint brush paint core

  pdb:
  - Add compat procedures that work like the removed plug-ins
  - Use the new GimpValueArray, GValueArray got deprecated

  plug-in:
  - Allow plug-ins to access image data at full bit depth
  - Add a compat mode so unported plug-ins always get 8-bit data

  text:
  - Port text rendering to GEGL
  - Use HarfBuzz to inspect fonts for creating an example string

  xcf:
  - Add zlib compression to XCF loading/saving


GUI:

  - Add GUI to handle the new high bit depths and conversion between 
    them
  - Add new action group "filters" which can run arbitrary GEGL ops
  - Add lots of actions invoking GEGL ops that replace removed plug-ins
  - Preview all GEGL ops live on the canvas, using drawable filters
  - Mostly switch from using stock-ids to icon-names
  - Turn all stock icons into named icons and add an icon theme
  - Allow selecting colors from an image's colormap
  - Add "Show in file manager" to everything that has a filename
  - Add an action search dialog to find actions by keyword and execute 
    them
  - Split the save dialog into subclasses for load, save and export
  - Implement various color management dialogs that were in the lcms 
    plug-in
  - Make sure windows appear on the correct monitor
  - Simplify and reduce the actions that modify paint tool behavior
  - Add canvas rotation and flipping
  - Allow zooming to the selection
  - Make the image tab position configurable in single window mode
  - Add separate snapping settings for fullscreen mode
  - Remove bitmaps cursors and only support RGBA cursors
  - Color manage drawable and