[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-04 Thread GerryPeters
>I had a feeling that might be the case. Gimp (any version) does not
>come with fonts.
>
>This means that all the fonts that you might have added are now in the
>Windows structure. Not exactly system fonts but consider them that.
>
>Never a good idea. Sooner or later you get a broken font that stops
>Gimp and and is not easy to remove in Windows.
>
>If you want fonts that are only for Gimp, put them in the Gimp profile
>fonts folder, that is why it is there.
>Gimp 2.10 default theme is very dark grey. That is considered 'cool'
>these days, even if it is virtually unreadable.
>
>Change in Edit -> Preferences theme (and icon theme) as screenshot.
>Well you do not have any in Gimp. PrintMyFont only 'sees' .ttf fonts
>There might be some .otf fonts in there as well. I do not know, it is
>your computer. Want something better? Nothing I know for free, you
>might have to buy something.

Thanks Rich. That clears up a lot of confusion. I returned the theme to the
default - I like it.

One thing that's really nice about  PrintMyFont is that I can save it to a RTF
file. So I can always compare the GIMP font list to it and delete the fonts not
used by GIMP. The guillotine trick didn't seem to work well for me and it may be
too time consuming

In all you've given me some good tips - I appreciate it

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-04 Thread rich404
>The GIMP fonts folder is empty. Since I'm using GIMP 2.8, I thought
>maybe the font folder would show up if I upgraded to the new GIMP
>2.10. I did and it's font folder is empty too. 

I had a feeling that might be the case. Gimp (any version) does not come with
fonts.

This means that all the fonts that you might have added are now in the Windows
structure. Not exactly system fonts but consider them that.

Never a good idea. Sooner or later you get a broken font that stops Gimp and and
is not easy to remove in Windows.

If you want fonts that are only for Gimp, put them in the Gimp profile fonts
folder, that is why it is there.

>Also this new GIMP is
>all black and not in color, except when I load in a project. Do I need
>to uninstall and reinstall it again  or is the way the new GIMP looks?

Gimp 2.10 default theme is very dark grey. That is considered 'cool' these days,
even if it is virtually unreadable.

Change in Edit -> Preferences theme (and icon theme) as screenshot.

>I would be nice if there was a font folder that had
>all the Gimp fonts. Right now PrintMyFont is printing some Gimp fonts
>and also some ones not in Gimp. It's not complete.

Well you do not have any in Gimp. PrintMyFont only 'sees' .ttf fonts There might
be some .otf fonts in there as well. I do not know, it is your computer. Want
something better? Nothing I know for free, you might have to buy something.

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-04 Thread GerryPeters
>Really? Fonts specific to Gimp are in the Gimp profile. Location
>depends on operating system.
>
>I am sure you can sort this out yourself. Still do not know what OS
>you are using.
>
>If I was using the little utility, PrintMyFont, I would copy the Gimp
>fonts to a easy to locate temporary folder.
>
>However for Windows 10 and Gimp 2.10 and the horrible Gimp profile
>...\appdata\roaming\gimp\2.10\fonts\
>
>Use Windows file explorer, go to the Gimp fonts folder and copy the
>location: https://i.imgur.com/mvXBYV4.jpg
>
>Then starting PrintMyFont -> Open folder -> Search something like
>this, paste in and open: https://i.imgur.com/bCSiE2K.jpg
>
>That gives a listing and File -> Export As:
>https://i.imgur.com/zwsx87E.jpg
>
>Which prints to a PDF (probably the only good thing MS has done in
>years) : https://i.imgur.com/JVHKe2J.jpg

The GIMP fonts folder is empty. Since I'm using GIMP 2.8, I thought maybe the
font folder would show up if I upgraded to the new GIMP 2.10. I did and it's
font folder is empty too. Also this new GIMP is all black and not in color,
except when I load in a project. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall it again 
or is the way the new GIMP looks? - see attachment. I would be nice if there was
a font folder that had all the Gimp fonts. Right now PrintMyFont is printing
some Gimp fonts and also some ones not in Gimp. It's not complete.

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-01 Thread GerryPeters
>I normally use linux but if you are using Windows try this (freeware)
>one https://www.sttmedia.com/printmyfonts
>
>There is a linux version but it is missing the load fonts facility.
>Unfortunately Windows version does not work under WINE. I catalogued
>the several hundred google fonts in a Windows Virtual machine.
>Printing to PDF with A4 pages. example:
>https://i.imgur.com/maB5UzR.jpg
>
>In Gimp? Add guides to split up the page. There are scripts to add
>multiple guides.
>
>Use Image -> Transform -> Guillotine to split into separate images
>
>The attached script will write those separate images to a single PDF.
>Unzip. There are two versions, one for Gimp 2.10 (cunning dev's
>changed the syntax)
>
>The tedious bit, adding each image in the script dialogue.
>
>best of luck
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Stefan Trost program looks very good. I'd prefer to print only GIMP's fonts. I
see there's a check box for system fonts and fonts from font files. Also there's
"manage my fonts" where I can drag files, add files or search a folder. So where
are the GIMP fonts located? In more than one spot? Or will printing the system
fonts take care of it?

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-01 Thread rich404
>Stefan Trost program looks very good. I'd prefer to print only GIMP's
>fonts. I see there's a check box for system fonts and fonts from font
>files. Also there's "manage my fonts" where I can drag files, add
>files or search a folder. So where are the GIMP fonts located? In more
>than one spot? Or will printing the system fonts take care of it?
>
>Thanks,

Really? Fonts specific to Gimp are in the Gimp profile. Location depends on
operating system.

I am sure you can sort this out yourself. Still do not know what OS you are
using.

If I was using the little utility, PrintMyFont, I would copy the Gimp fonts to a
easy to locate temporary folder.

However for Windows 10 and Gimp 2.10 and the horrible Gimp profile
...\appdata\roaming\gimp\2.10\fonts\

Use Windows file explorer, go to the Gimp fonts folder and copy the location:
https://i.imgur.com/mvXBYV4.jpg

Then starting PrintMyFont -> Open folder -> Search something like this, paste in
and open: https://i.imgur.com/bCSiE2K.jpg

That gives a listing and File -> Export As: https://i.imgur.com/zwsx87E.jpg

Which prints to a PDF (probably the only good thing MS has done in years) :
https://i.imgur.com/JVHKe2J.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-07-01 Thread rich404
>I see, I looked everywhere in the program except that box - ha ha. Yes
>that works great. With the Sans filter I was able to export a PDF file
>and then print it. But with this the list is so long my printer won't
>print it. I'd love to print all the fonts for easy reference. What's
>the best way to do this?
>
>Thanks,

I normally use linux but if you are using Windows try this (freeware) one
https://www.sttmedia.com/printmyfonts

There is a linux version but it is missing the load fonts facility.
Unfortunately Windows version does not work under WINE. I catalogued the several
hundred google fonts in a Windows Virtual machine. Printing to PDF with A4
pages. example: https://i.imgur.com/maB5UzR.jpg

In Gimp? Add guides to split up the page. There are scripts to add multiple
guides.

Use Image -> Transform -> Guillotine to split into separate images

The attached script will write those separate images to a single PDF. Unzip.
There are two versions, one for Gimp 2.10 (cunning dev's changed the syntax)

The tedious bit, adding each image in the script dialogue.

best of luck

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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* 
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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-30 Thread GerryPeters
>The default looks like this screenshot https://i.imgur.com/BO4UGvi.jpg
>
>Just delete the 'sans' field.

I see, I looked everywhere in the program except that box - ha ha. Yes that
works great. With the Sans filter I was able to export a PDF file and then print
it. But with this the list is so long my printer won't print it. I'd love to
print all the fonts for easy reference. What's the best way to do this?

Thanks,

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-30 Thread GerryPeters
>That will be the filter(regex) setting. Default is sans so only sans
>fonts are rendered.
>
>Remove that for all fonts.


I can't seem to find the filter(regex) setting. Where is it?

Thanks for all the help,

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-30 Thread rich404
>I love that, it's really helpful. I can have some time to study the
>fonts and pick out the ones I like the best. Only problem is I can't
>figure out how to get all the fonts to do this. My list is about 40
>fonts. I have way more than that.

That will be the filter(regex) setting. Default is sans so only sans fonts are
rendered.

Remove that for all fonts.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-30 Thread Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list

Hi Liam,

On 29/06/18 19:14, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 15:29 +0100, Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list
wrote:

Hi Liam,

On 29/06/18 01:49, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Thu, 2018-06-28 at 22:17 +0200, GerryPeters wrote:

The Aa is
really not enough

Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the
"Aa"
font list.

I don't think that solves the OP's problem. That still only shows an
upper and lower case A as a sample of any font.

No, it shows the full fontname and a sample - if you are seeing just
Aa, click on the icon at the lower right of that dialogue (in a right-
to-left locale it might be at lower left).
I'm using 2.8.10 (the latest available in the default Linux Mint 
repository) and I see the "Aa" button which is in the appropriate font 
together with the font name - and for my purposes that is rarely enough. 
I frequently want to be reminded what form the lower case a or g take 
and whether it differs dramatically in upright and italic form.


However, thanks to your prompt I hunted around and only just discovered 
the pre-installed script that generates an image that does what you 
describe using whatever whatever phrase to decide for the sample.


And that will be good enough for my purposes on those occasions when I 
need the facility.


Thanks for forcing me to investigate!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread Akkana Peck
Liam R E Quin writes:
> Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > I think he's looking for a tool that allows him to enter a phrase
> > and then display that in all available fonts
> 
> Yes, use a font manager for that. Fontmatrix is the most featureful on
> Linux probably (but has some extremely dubious features); there's also
> a gtkfontmanager that's easier to use but does less.

I used to need this a lot, and I found fontmatrix impenetrable and
couldn't find anything else that really did what I wanted, so I
wrote a little Python script, Fontasia, that also lets you group
your fonts into groups you choose, like script, monospace, computer etc.
http://shallowsky.com/software/fontasia/
https://github.com/akkana/scripts/blob/master/fontasia

While inside GIMP, I use Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
as has already been mentioned, and use the down-arrow in that
dialog to step through fonts. If I'm not sure, I'll use Duplicate
Layer, turn off one of the duplicate layers then continue stepping
through fonts with the later that's still visible, so I end up
with several text layers showing the same text in different fonts.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 2018-06-29 12:38 PM, GerryPeters wrote:

A font viewer / manager is the best way.


There is also Font Manager and Fonty Python in Linux.


Just a reminder, it is possible to generate an image of all the
installed fonts.


IIRC, you can do that via a feature in Scribus.

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread GerryPeters
>A font viewer / manager is the best way.
>
>Just a reminder, it is possible to generate an image of all the
>installed fonts.
>
>Right click in the Fonts dialogue. Of course depending on the number
>of fonts installed, it might indeed be a very long image.

I love that, it's really helpful. I can have some time to study the fonts and
pick out the ones I like the best. Only problem is I can't figure out how to get
all the fonts to do this. My list is about 40 fonts. I have way more than that.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 15:29 +0100, Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list
wrote:
> Hi Liam,
> 
> On 29/06/18 01:49, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-06-28 at 22:17 +0200, GerryPeters wrote:
> > > The Aa is
> > > really not enough
> > 
> > Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
> > or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the
> > "Aa"
> > font list.
> 
> I don't think that solves the OP's problem. That still only shows an 
> upper and lower case A as a sample of any font.

No, it shows the full fontname and a sample - if you are seeing just
Aa, click on the icon at the lower right of that dialogue (in a right-
to-left locale it might be at lower left).


> I think he's looking for a tool that allows him to enter a phrase
> and 
> then display that in all available fonts - something like what's 
> available at:
> https://fonts.google.com/

Yes, use a font manager for that. Fontmatrix is the most featureful on
Linux probably (but has some extremely dubious features); there's also
a gtkfontmanager that's easier to use but does less.

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread rich404
>Thank you, that solves the problem. I love that I can select the text
>and use the arrow key to very quickly audition fonts. - great tip!

A font viewer / manager is the best way.

Just a reminder, it is possible to generate an image of all the installed fonts.

Right click in the Fonts dialogue. Of course depending on the number of fonts
installed, it might indeed be a very long image.


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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread GerryPeters
>Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
>or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the "Aa"
>font list.

I just tried a bunch of different fonts using the arrow key to quickly scroll.
When I do this the orange selection tint covers the text, yet I can still get a
pretty good impression.

But then I stumbled across something even better. After I did this and
deselected the text back to normal, I used undo and redo to look at the text in
it's original color, which is really cool and exactly what I was asking for in
this post - thanks

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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread GerryPeters
>Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
>or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the "Aa"
>font list.


Thank you, that solves the problem. I love that I can select the text and use
the arrow key to very quickly audition fonts. - great tip!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-29 Thread Greg Chapman via gimp-user-list

Hi Liam,

On 29/06/18 01:49, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Thu, 2018-06-28 at 22:17 +0200, GerryPeters wrote:

The Aa is
really not enough

Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the "Aa"
font list.
I don't think that solves the OP's problem. That still only shows an 
upper and lower case A as a sample of any font.


I think he's looking for a tool that allows him to enter a phrase and 
then display that in all available fonts - something like what's 
available at:

https://fonts.google.com/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-28 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2018-06-28 at 22:17 +0200, GerryPeters wrote:
> The Aa is
> really not enough 

Windows->Dockable Dialogues->Fonts
or youcan get there with the aaa icon at the lower right of the "Aa"
font list.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
чт, 28 июн. 2018 г., 23:48 GerryPeters:

> When I want to audition a font, I go to the text tool and select the text.
> Look
> to the left for the font box and click on the Aa to see all the fonts. The
> Aa is
> really not enough to tell whether I like the font. I then choose one and
> to view
> the result I need to deselect the text. I have to go through all that
> again to
> view a new font.
>
> It's very hard to choose a font just looking at the Aa. Has anyone put
> together
> a better font view where I can see a few words in every font, instead of
> the Aa?
>

You really, really want using a font manager. Any one.


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[Gimp-user] Quicker way to audition fonts?

2018-06-28 Thread GerryPeters
When I want to audition a font, I go to the text tool and select the text. Look
to the left for the font box and click on the Aa to see all the fonts. The Aa is
really not enough to tell whether I like the font. I then choose one and to view
the result I need to deselect the text. I have to go through all that again to
view a new font.

It's very hard to choose a font just looking at the Aa. Has anyone put together
a better font view where I can see a few words in every font, instead of the Aa?
or is there a better quicker way to audition fonts?

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