Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-07 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> On 04.09.2014 02:24, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Oliver Dillenburger  wrote:
>>> Hello everybody,
>>>
>>> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
>>> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
>>>
>>> Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
>>> states I need to open at least one layer to work.
>>
>> That reminds me something. Maybe someone on the list or in a bug
>> report had a similar issue, but I can't find.
>
> The issue with the additional zeroes in XCF files, to to an unexpected
> (but apparently to be expected) behavior of fseek?
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730211
>
> Reported for OSX, but there's no reason to assume it can't happen on
> other platforms.

It may be it, but from what I understand by skimming through the
report is that there have been commits to fix this issue, so that GIMP
2.8.14 should be able to recover such a damaged file.
Though Massimo wrote « a simple test to save and load "layers
recovered.xcf" passes ». Is it to say that the user should try to save
his file under another name (just to avoid mistakes), and load this
file should recover its layers?

Jehan


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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-07 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 04.09.2014 02:24, Jehan Pagès wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Oliver Dillenburger  wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
>> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
>>
>> Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
>> states I need to open at least one layer to work.
> 
> That reminds me something. Maybe someone on the list or in a bug
> report had a similar issue, but I can't find.

The issue with the additional zeroes in XCF files, to to an unexpected
(but apparently to be expected) behavior of fseek?

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730211

Reported for OSX, but there's no reason to assume it can't happen on
other platforms.


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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-07 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Oliver Dillenburger  wrote:
> Here is a link to a screenshot that shows the problem:
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/34585260
>
> I can't upload the picture.
>
> Is there a general problem with "large" XCF files?

As far as I know (i.e. as users reported so), many users work with
huge XCF files.

> The pic has only about 10 layers and I consider it not too big for Gimp to
> handle...
>
> Any help is appreciated,

Well thanks for the screenshot. It indeed shows there is likely a
problem (especially for a 400MB file but no layers in it!). But if we
can't reproduce it, there is not much we can do.
So if you can't upload this picture, if you were able to produce
another "test" picture with the same problem, or find a "reproduction
steps" for us to be able to reproduce such a case ourselves, that
would be fine.

Otherwise we are just asked to guess in the wild. That may still be
possible, some dev know very well GIMP's code and may guess what
happened. But this is making things much more difficult.

Anyway, could you open a bug ticket with as much information as you can give?
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP

Jehan


> Oliver
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Oliver Dillenburger  wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
>> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
>>
>> Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp
>> states I need to open at least one layer to work.
>
> That reminds me something. Maybe someone on the list or in a bug
> report had a similar issue, but I can't find. What is the exact
> message error?
>
>> The XCF is 400 MB.
>
> Is it a file you can share publicly? Could you upload it somewhere so
> that we can have a look?
> If that's not a file you want/are allowed to share, could you still
> upload it and send a private message with the link?
> Thanks.
>
> Jehan
>
>> Gimp 2.8.10 and 2.8.14 both had the same problem.
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Jehan Pagès  wrote:
>> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
>> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.

And this isn't going to help immediately, but once I've been working
on a file called "my_cool_image_01.xcf" for over an hour, I do a
File->Save As (CTRL-Shift-S), and name it 'my_cool_image_02.xcf".
This isn't just a GIMP thing - I do the same in all programs.  Disk
space is cheap; my time is not ;)

Going forward, if you use this strategy you'll likely only lose an
hour at most if things go sideways.  But to be fully honest I pair
that strategy with regular off-site backups :)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Oliver Dillenburger  wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
>
> Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
> states I need to open at least one layer to work.

That reminds me something. Maybe someone on the list or in a bug
report had a similar issue, but I can't find. What is the exact
message error?

> The XCF is 400 MB.

Is it a file you can share publicly? Could you upload it somewhere so
that we can have a look?
If that's not a file you want/are allowed to share, could you still
upload it and send a private message with the link?
Thanks.

Jehan

>  Gimp 2.8.10 and 2.8.14 both had the same problem.
>
> Any help is appreciated,
>
> Oliver
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[Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Oliver Dillenburger
Hello everybody,
 
I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.
 
Today I tried to open it. The preview shows the picture just fine but gimp 
states I need to open at least one layer to work.
The XCF is 400 MB.
 Gimp 2.8.10 and 2.8.14 both had the same problem.
 
Any help is appreciated,
 
Oliver
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