Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Keith Athey wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Could you list a few of the sites you liked for downloading windoze tffs?
>

I've been downloading my Windows TTFs from 1001freefonts.com
(http://www.1001freefonts.com).  They sell the fonts on  a CD but you can
download them individually, as I have been doing.

When you go to that site, click on "Enter here" and NOT "PCFonts" or "Mac
fonts" as you will be directed to some other site.

If interested, I can send you samples of some of these fonts IN USE in an
"Alien Glow" Script-Fu logo that I can create as a demo
(Xtns/Script-Fu/Logos/Alien Glow).

I use these fonts in GIMP 1.2.3 on Linux (2.4.20 kernel) and XFree86 4.2.1.

Good luck!  :)

Peace...

Tom

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Christopher Hicks wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Tom Williams wrote:
> > Christopher Hicks wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> > > the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> > > and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> > > in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> > > tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> > > this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
> >
> > I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have
> > found another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)
>
> But how can you tell what's going to be a 2-byte TTF and what's not?

I don't know how to tell if any given TTF is a 2-byte TTF from a techincal
perspective.  From a practical perspective, I've found the more "fancy" or
"artistic" TTFs tend to NOT be 2-byte fonts and I haven't run into any problems
with using them.

So, I guess the 2-byte problem (until GIMP is "fixed" or changed) really depends
on which TTFs you need to use.

Peace.

Tom


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Tom Williams wrote:
> Christopher Hicks wrote:
> > I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> > the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> > and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> > in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> > tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> > this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
> 
> I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have
> found another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)

But how can you tell what's going to be a 2-byte TTF and what's not?

> I've been going to several sites that offer FREE Windows TTFs for
> download and then installing them in my X font set (using ttmkfontdir I
> believe is the utility) and now I've got a rich set of great Windows
> fonts and I don't even both with the 2-byte TTFs anymore. At least, it's
> worth investigating... :)

Several of the fonts in question are from such sites, but in other
instances s specific font is being used for a web project and there's
virtually no chance of a replacement font being found.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Christopher Hicks wrote:

> [ I sent out a similar message before Christmas, but I'm hoping that
> sending this out again now that everybody's recovered might have a better
> chance of evoking a response.  For those seeing this twice, sorry. ]
>
> I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
>
> I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
> a detailed way to reproduce the problem) all without coming up with
> anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
> fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
> to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have found
another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)  I know that is obvious
and what I did was start installing various Windows TTFs so my font selection
is now MUCH RICHER and I have no _need_ for the 2-byte TTFs that I wanted to
use before because I had only a handful of TTFs to choose from.

I've been going to several sites that offer FREE Windows TTFs for download
and then installing them in my X font set (using ttmkfontdir I believe is the
utility) and now I've got a rich set of great Windows fonts and I don't even
both with the 2-byte TTFs anymore.

At least, it's worth investigating... :)

Peace...

Tom

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[Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Hicks
[ I sent out a similar message before Christmas, but I'm hoping that 
sending this out again now that everybody's recovered might have a better 
chance of evoking a response.  For those seeing this twice, sorry. ]

I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"  
in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.

I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
a detailed way to reproduce the problem) all without coming up with
anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

-- 


Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is
fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe:
entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always
overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule.
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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?

2002-12-19 Thread Tom . Williams

This is a GREAT question as I've run into this a LOT.  I've recently
learned how to install Windows True-Type fonts in XFree86 (4.2.1) and I'm
finding I can use the Windows fonts with gimp on Linux that I thought I had
abandoned.

An answer to the "2-byte font" problem would be greatly appreciated :)

Peace

Tom



   
 
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I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.

I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
a detailed way to reproduce the problem.) all without coming up with
anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

--


Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is
fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe:
entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always
overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule.
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[Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?

2002-12-19 Thread Christopher Hicks
I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"  
in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.

I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
a detailed way to reproduce the problem.) all without coming up with
anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

-- 


Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is
fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe:
entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always
overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule.
-Damian Conway, Perl God

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