Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and CMYK

2008-10-03 Thread Derek Wueppelmann
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 08:43 -0400, Derek Wueppelmann wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:27 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> > First of all, does the EPS contain an ICC color profile? Do you have the
> > color profile at all? Did you use it when you tried opening the EPS in
> > those 7 applications?
> 
> Downloading the ICC profiles and opening the EPS in Scribus solved the
> problem. I had to change a few options in Scribus and then export as an
> SVG file. But I got the image in the correct colours now. Thanks for the
> pointer.

So it looks like I spoke too soon. While using the color profile did
seem to get a better result, it is still not the correct colors. Anybody
else have a suggestion? I have downloaded an evaluation copy of
Illustrator so that I can save the file as an SVG, however this is not
an ideal solution for me.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and CMYK

2008-10-02 Thread Derek Wueppelmann
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:27 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> First of all, does the EPS contain an ICC color profile? Do you have the
> color profile at all? Did you use it when you tried opening the EPS in
> those 7 applications?

Downloading the ICC profiles and opening the EPS in Scribus solved the
problem. I had to change a few options in Scribus and then export as an
SVG file. But I got the image in the correct colours now. Thanks for the
pointer.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and CMYK

2008-10-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
Derek Wueppelmann wrote:
> Hello, 
>
> What I'm having troubles with right now is that I have been given an EPS
> file from a graphics company that contains a Logo. The image has been
> saved with (apparently) CMYK formated colors. The issue is that the CMYK
> representation they say should give the desired RGB formated colors is
> not actually doing this. What I get is distinctly not what they
> indicated it should be. I have now tried 7 different applications to
> convert this image correctly (not Illustrator or Photoshop as I don't
> have access to these).


Hi

First of all, does the EPS contain an ICC color profile? Do you have the
color profile at all? Did you use it when you tried opening the EPS in
those 7 applications?

BR,
Martin

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[Gimp-user] GIMP and CMYK

2008-10-01 Thread Derek Wueppelmann
Hello, 

I'm sure this gets asked a lot, but I have spent the better part of
today trying to figure out a reason why this is so, so I thought I would
ask. Any informaiton, or even directing me to resources on the web would
be very helpful.

What I'm having troubles with right now is that I have been given an EPS
file from a graphics company that contains a Logo. The image has been
saved with (apparently) CMYK formated colors. The issue is that the CMYK
representation they say should give the desired RGB formated colors is
not actually doing this. What I get is distinctly not what they
indicated it should be. I have now tried 7 different applications to
convert this image correctly (not Illustrator or Photoshop as I don't
have access to these). In all cases I get the same rendering of the
image. To help illustrate the problem see the image located:

http://www.monkeynet.ca/example-cmyk.png

The question I have is, why does adobe illustrator apparently display
the correct colors and GIMP and the other applications show an incorrect
representation? As a follwo up, is there a way to get the correct
representation to be rendered? I'm even willing to modify the eps file
manually by hand to acheive this.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP and CMYK

2002-12-26 Thread Michael J. Hammel
Thus spoke John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Understood. The reference to Gimp 2.0 and CMYK is the closest thing to
> a commitment to incorporate useful CMYK capability in Gimp that I
> have come across. There are two markets, on-line stuff and printed
> stuff. Without CMYK Gimp is limited to the first and effectively
> locked out of the second. Hence it cannot be considered as a complete

Depends on your point of view.  I've done several covers for Linux Journal
using nothing but GIMP without CMYK.  LJ took my uncompressed TIFF submission
and let their printer handle CMYK issues.  I've done similar things for CD
covers and other prints.  I did the cover to my first book with GIMP.

Many smaller print houses have been eager to work with me on issues like this
- essentially I'm handing off the CMYK work to them.

So you aren't "effectively" shut out of the print market.  It just depends on
how precise you need to be.  In my case, none of the prints I've done have
been significantly altered by the printers doing the CMYK work for me.

> Photoshop replacement no matter how many marvelous tricks it will do.=20

Again, depends on what you're working on.

> CMYK is the one bold move that would make all the difference in
> publishing.=20

But this I have to agree with.  GIMP does need CMYK support for wider
acceptance.  One can always argue if "wider acceptance" is necessary.  Depends
on the established goal, I suppose.

> I hope for a world where the non-conformist can do whatever he/she
> needs to do with free software. The only non-free program I use
> regularly is called Mup, a music notation program I paid $29.00 for
> many years ago. TeX means never having to buy InDesign or Quark for
> typesetting. Gimp should mean never having to buy PhotoShop for book
> covers. Until that happy day I will struggle along with Gimp +
> pnmtotiffcmyk.

Mostly true.  But I went through this with book publishers too way before
OpenOffice and AbiWord were as stable as they are now.  I got them to work
with RTF and Applix (which isn't open source, but was available for Linux at
the time).  I just had to explain my position and need to use the products I
was writing about.  The same can be said for GIMP and printers.  You just have
to work a little harder to get things done with those who do not use your
tools.

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