Re: [Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil

2009-03-06 Thread Francois du Toit
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, James for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 As further information on my project, I mention yellowing of the paper. It
 would probably be more accurate to call it browning since, in some
 instances, its shade can approach the same intensity of light pencil markings.

You can also try to decompose the image into different colorspace
components (Colors - Components - Decompose)
Start with LAB, but try the others too. It will give you grayscale
layers which might be easier to use the level tools on.

Do you have a sample image?
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[Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil

2009-03-05 Thread James
Hi. I have an elderly friend whose father kept a diary during WW2. The diary
is written in pencil on poor quality paper that has yellowed considerably with
age. The text is still pretty legible but as time passes it will become less
so. I decided I could photograph pages of the diary and enhance them using
Gimp. The final result should be something that can be printed out on a
computer printer, i.e., greyscale/bw. I took the photos in color, thinking
I'd have more manipulation options, then could make the images greyscale.

I'm not any kind of gimp power user or anything--I usually just feel my way
around the program and usually get it to do the fairly simple graphic
manipulations I want. So far, that method has not worked well for this
project. So I'd like to ask some tips here on accomplishing the goal I'm
after. Ideally, I'd like all the yellowed paper that forms the background of
these images to turn as close to white as possible, while all the pencil text
should be as close to black as possible. Can anyone point me to things I can
try under gimp that will help me accomplish these aims?
-- 
James
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Re: [Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil

2009-03-05 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Thursday 05 March 2009, James wrote:
 Ideally, I'd like all the yellowed paper that forms the background
 of these images to turn as close to white as possible, while all the pencil
 text should be as close to black as possible. Can anyone point me to things
 I can try under gimp that will help me accomplish these aims?

If you have to work with many pages, my first idea would be to do an automatic 
white balance correction (Colors  Auto  White Balance).  With a little 
luck, it'll pick the yellow as white and the pencil as black.  If that 
doesn't work out as you expect, do it manually with the levels tool[1], and 
make use of the three eye droppers (mainly the white one) in the All 
channels section.

Getting to know the levels tool (or curves too for even more control) will 
help you with photos and scans anyway.

Greetings, 
Daniel


[1] http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-levels.html


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Re: [Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil

2009-03-05 Thread norman
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 I'm not any kind of gimp power user or anything--I usually just feel my way
 around the program and usually get it to do the fairly simple graphic
 manipulations I want. So far, that method has not worked well for this
 project. So I'd like to ask some tips here on accomplishing the goal I'm
 after. Ideally, I'd like all the yellowed paper that forms the background of
 these images to turn as close to white as possible, while all the pencil text
 should be as close to black as possible. Can anyone point me to things I can
 try under gimp that will help me accomplish these aims?

I think there was a video covering this sort of thing on
www.meetthegimp.org some months ago, but I am not absolutely sure. 

Norman


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[Gimp-user] tips on enhancing text written in pencil

2009-03-05 Thread James
On Thursday 05 March 2009, James wrote:
 Ideally, I'd like all the yellowed paper that forms the background
 of these images to turn as close to white as possible, while all the
pencil
 text should be as close to black as possible. Can anyone point me to
things
 I can try under gimp that will help me accomplish these aims?

If you have to work with many pages, my first idea would be to do an
automatic 
white balance correction (Colors  Auto  White Balance).  With a little 
luck, it'll pick the yellow as white and the pencil as black.  If that 
doesn't work out as you expect, do it manually with the levels tool[1], and

make use of the three eye droppers (mainly the white one) in the All 
channels section.

Getting to know the levels tool (or curves too for even more control) will 
help you with photos and scans anyway.

Thanks for those tips, Daniel. Some preliminary experimentation with white
balance correction gave slightly better results than I've gotten in my own
unguided attempts with the program. I'll look more into the levels tool now
and see whether that might give better results yet.

As further information on my project, I mention yellowing of the paper. It
would probably be more accurate to call it browning since, in some
instances, its shade can approach the same intensity of light pencil markings.
Also, since I photographed this text under highly unprofessional
circumstances, some pages have a little glare and/or a little shadow on them.
So this complicates things a bit more for my purposes (the purpose being to
end up with something as close as possible to black text on a white
background).

Now, off to sudy up a bit on the levels tool.

James
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