Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
Hi, John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unless one is concerned with flesh tones the exact shades are not > all that critical. So I would welcome Sven's "five minute hack." > Could it be provided as a plugin or something, with a warning label? We'd just have to add the simple RGB to CMYK conversion functions to libgimpcolor and change a couple of file plug-ins to do the conversion when saving the image. If there really is use for this functionality, I will look into adding it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
On Monday 14 July 2003 10:38 am, Mukund wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:16:24AM -0400, John Culleton wrote: > | When one saves from Gimp to PNM I assume that is also an RGB format. > | There is a program pnmtotiffcmyk which I have been using. Unfortunately > | my preferred typesetting engine, pdftex, now disallows TIFF graphics > | because of the many variations of TIFF being produced. They allow JPEG, > | PNM and PDF formats for included images. > > Don't you think the problem lies with your preferred typesetting engine > pdftex not allowing CMYK image formats instead? > > You could try tiff2ps on the generated CMYK TIFF and use the resulting > PostScript file with TeX. You can convert that PostScript file to PDF > with ps2pdf for use with pdftex. > > Mukund They allow CMYK. They just don't allow TIFF any more, because of problems they have had. They will accept JPG, PNM or PDF files with the CMYK color model. But other than going through multiple conversions as you suggest I don't know how to get from Gimp to a CMYK illustration. The other side of the problem, making color covers, is a bit easier. One can produce the PNM from Gimp and then use pnmtotiffcmyk to convert. Many printers accept TIFF files if they are also CMYK. Unless one is concerned with flesh tones the exact shades are not all that critical. So I would welcome Sven's "five minute hack." Could it be provided as a plugin or something, with a warning label? John Culleton Able Typesetters & Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:16:24AM -0400, John Culleton wrote: | When one saves from Gimp to PNM I assume that is also an RGB format. | There is a program pnmtotiffcmyk which I have been using. Unfortunately | my preferred typesetting engine, pdftex, now disallows TIFF graphics because | of the many variations of TIFF being produced. They allow JPEG, PNM and | PDF formats for included images. Don't you think the problem lies with your preferred typesetting engine pdftex not allowing CMYK image formats instead? You could try tiff2ps on the generated CMYK TIFF and use the resulting PostScript file with TeX. You can convert that PostScript file to PDF with ps2pdf for use with pdftex. Mukund ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
On Thursday 10 July 2003 04:31 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have stayed with 1.2.5 because (a) it works and (b) 1.3 doesn't > > offer any impovement in the cmyk area, which is my big need. > > The 1.3 versions do at least provide the framework that is needed for > doing color selection in CMYK as a pluggable module. Dunno if that > would help you though. As you know most prepress folks want all color images in CMYK form. So an ablilty to save in CMYK instead of RGB would be what I need. I suppose one could use ImageMagick instead but I haven't tried that. When one saves from Gimp to PNM I assume that is also an RGB format. There is a program pnmtotiffcmyk which I have been using. Unfortunately my preferred typesetting engine, pdftex, now disallows TIFF graphics because of the many variations of TIFF being produced. They allow JPEG, PNM and PDF formats for included images. For covers I can do the whole thing in Gimp, save in PNM, and use pnmtotiffcmyk. For color illustrations in a book from Gimp I am stumped. -- John Culleton Able Typesetters & Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
Hi, John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have stayed with 1.2.5 because (a) it works and (b) 1.3 doesn't > offer any impovement in the cmyk area, which is my big need. The 1.3 versions do at least provide the framework that is needed for doing color selection in CMYK as a pluggable module. Dunno if that would help you though. > Can you give me some idea on what is different in the 1.3 font > handling area? Are the freefonts and sharefonts still included? They have never been included but GIMP will continue to be able to use them. GIMP-1.3 only does a much better job at rendering them. I am not going to explain 1.3 font handling in detail, but basically it uses fontconfig to manage fonts, pango for layouting and freetype2 to render the glyphs. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 05:26 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Right as rain. That is a permanent fix. Which raises the next question: > > why not alter the READMEs to offer this approach instead of the xset > > business? > > Probably because it works completely different in 1.3 and we don't put > anymore effort into 1.2 despite some casual bug-fixing. I have stayed with 1.2.5 because (a) it works and (b) 1.3 doesn't offer any impovement in the cmyk area, which is my big need. Can you give me some idea on what is different in the 1.3 font handling area? Are the freefonts and sharefonts still included? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters & Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
Hi, John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Right as rain. That is a permanent fix. Which raises the next question: why > not alter the READMEs to offer this approach instead of the xset business? Probably because it works completely different in 1.3 and we don't put anymore effort into 1.2 despite some casual bug-fixing. And then it's not really the job of GIMP's README to explain the pitfalls of X11 font configuration. There are plenty of HOWTOs out there that do a much better job at this. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
On Monday 07 July 2003 02:07 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > OK I download freefonts and sharefonts. > > I install them per the README (two xset commands per each set.) > > They are available to Gimp. > > I reboot for some reason. > > The fonts are no longer available to Gimp. > > > > I can put a routine in /etc/rc.d to repeat the xset commands after every > > reboot but it seems to me there must be a more elegant way. > > Why not add the new font paths to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 instead of > using xset? > > > Sven Right as rain. That is a permanent fix. Which raises the next question: why not alter the READMEs to offer this approach instead of the xset business? Incidentally, on my Slack 9 system the filename is: etc/X11/XF86Config The trailing "-4" is omitted. Anyhow thanks for your solution! -- John Culleton Able Typesetters & Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Diaoppearing freefonts
Hi, John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK I download freefonts and sharefonts. > I install them per the README (two xset commands per each set.) > They are available to Gimp. > I reboot for some reason. > The fonts are no longer available to Gimp. > > I can put a routine in /etc/rc.d to repeat the xset commands after every > reboot but it seems to me there must be a more elegant way. Why not add the new font paths to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 instead of using xset? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
