Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Serge Matveenko
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 06:02, Andrew Gray andrew.paul.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 The pushback I am getting is:
 1. What does GIT give me that I don't get with SVN
 2. It is just another thing I have to learn and why should I when I don't
 know what benefit I get.

It is very common mistake to try to convince regular developers to
move to git. Such tactic will not succeed usually. Git does not have
any benefits for the developer who just do svn co, svn up. Git's
benefits are in the Team Lead and Release Engineer scopes. You just
need to convince key persons to move to git. Other will thank you
later when central repo will crash or you will guide somebody over
series of git blame, git bisect, git rebase or git filter-branch.

By the way there is very useful video for getting people know benefits
of git better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Tech Talk: Linus Torvalds on git


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Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru writes:

 By the way there is very useful video for getting people know benefits
 of git better.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Tech Talk: Linus Torvalds on git

That talk also highlights the most prominent disadvantage of SVN
compared to git.  You are ugly and stupid if you don't use git.  You
don't want to be ugly and stupid, and neither do you colleagues, right?

There's also a tutorial depicting how to become pretty and smart:

  http://thetrilemma.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/git-for-ugly-and-stupid-people/

Every other argument like cheap local branches and stuff like that is
subordinate to not being ugly and stupid. ;-)

Bye,
Tassilo

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Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Stone
Your reply may have been a joke or it may not have been. Either way I feel
your post added nothing of value to the thread and is therefore a waste of
bandwidth. The link you posted may be of value, however I was offended by
your comments. I use both git and svn and I am neither ugly or stupid.
On Mar 8, 2012 5:53 AM, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru writes:

  By the way there is very useful video for getting people know benefits
  of git better.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Tech Talk: Linus Torvalds
 on git

 That talk also highlights the most prominent disadvantage of SVN
 compared to git.  You are ugly and stupid if you don't use git.  You
 don't want to be ugly and stupid, and neither do you colleagues, right?

 There's also a tutorial depicting how to become pretty and smart:


 http://thetrilemma.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/git-for-ugly-and-stupid-people/

 Every other argument like cheap local branches and stuff like that is
 subordinate to not being ugly and stupid. ;-)

 Bye,
 Tassilo

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Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Stone
I wasn't trying to sound like I was taking the statement personally. Had it
been made clear that the text of the post was a joke instead of being taken
either way I would have a different outlook
On Mar 8, 2012 6:52 AM, tombert tomb...@live.at wrote:

 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:13:03 PM UTC+1, Chris Stone wrote:

 Your reply may have been a joke or it may not have been. Either way I
 feel your post added nothing of value to the thread and is therefore a
 waste of bandwidth. The link you posted may be of value, however I was
 offended by your comments. I use both git and svn and I am neither ugly or
 stupid.

 I don't think the statement ... You are ugly and stupid if you don't use
 git ... was meant personally - it was a generallization like the one you
 see on advertising spots: If you eat this *yoghurt *you will get pretty
 and healthy


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Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Tassilo Horn
Chris Stone nightshade1...@gmail.com writes:

Hi Chris,

 Your reply may have been a joke or it may not have been. Either way I
 feel your post added nothing of value to the thread and is therefore a
 waste of bandwidth. The link you posted may be of value, however I was
 offended by your comments.

I don't deserve any credits on this statement.  In the google tech talk
that was linked in the message I replied to, Linus makes this statement
with a twinkle.  Therefore, I started my reply with That talk... to
make the context clear.

Sorry, if that wasn't clear enough.

 I use both git and svn and I am neither ugly or stupid.

So do I, and clearly the used VCS has no immediate effect on beauty or
wisdom.  I think we can agree on that.

Bye,
Tassilo

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Re: [git-users] SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Godmar Back
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:40 AM, radovan bast radovan.b...@uit.no wrote:

 - you get backup for free


Could you explain this point?

I would have made that argument for SVN/CVS, really any centralized system.

In git, you're dealing with (possibly numerous) repositories on different
machines. Unless all the machines on which they're located are backed up,
you don't have backup (unless you push/pull every commit to an upstream
repository on a backed-up machine, such as github).  Using SVN, where the
SVN repository is (typically) housed on a server that is backed up, every
commit is an automatic backup. In git, it's not, unless you do a
commit+push every time you'd do a commit in SVN.

 - Godmar

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Re: [git-users] Re: git svn fetch

2012-03-08 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 01:46:42PM -0800, AdrianH wrote:

[...]
 H, seems that I just needed --username on initial fetch.  Doesn't
 ask when I do git svn rebase.
This is expected behaviour, indeed.

 A bit confusing.  This is my first experience using git-svn.
I'd not say it's confusing: it's how plain Subversion client behaves,
so if you used it, you'd feel right at home with git-svn as well.

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[git-users] Re: SVN vs GIT

2012-03-08 Thread Jeenu


On Friday, March 9, 2012 8:44:42 AM UTC+5:30, Jeenu wrote:

 Next steps would include a demo as to how SVN would save their day by 
 helping to recovering from mistakes


Of course I meant Git. What was I thinking? 

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