Re: [git-users] Could GIT help with this task?

2016-09-08 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
edgaroliveira@gmail.com wrote:

> I thought the git is good for all types project. Because the Linux 
> distribution using this Version Control System.

Some nitpicking first, sorry: "Linux" is the name of a project
implementing an operating system's kernel.  The kernel is a piece of
software which makes hardware breath: it mediates between the hardware
and "the userspace" where programs live.

"A distribution" is a term commonly applied to denote a full-blown
operating system which uses the Linux kernel as its core component.
Say, Ubuntu is a distribution, Debian, Gentoo, SUSE, Red Hat
Enterprise Linux, Arch Linux et all are all examples of
Linux-based distributions (or "distros" for short).

> I haven't sure this thought, am I right?

No, unfortunately, you're not.

While Linux is indeed an insanely huge project, it neither is the
biggest one managed by Git (say, Mozilla Firefox is larger IIRC) nor
does it possess all _possible_ properties which may affect how Git
handles it.  Here's what I mean: Git was (and is) in the first place
designed to manage the development of Linux, and this means it's
naturally _biased_ towards it.  This means several things.
To name just a few:
* It's perfectly able to have a very large number of small- to
  middle-sized textual files.
* ...which change at a relatively small rate (I mean, cases when 99%
  of the project files are rewritten in the next commit are quite rare).
* Fully distributed development with multiple "stages" of the code
  flowing from the contributors to the "main" tree (published by Linux).
  Among other things, this means providing no centralized locks
  and access controls.
* The whole project is a single logical piece of information.
* Git is not afraid to give your power in exchange expecing its users
  to actually educate themselves.

Hence some people come to grips with Git when they want:
* No-brainer approach to using a VCS.
* Access controls (who may push what and where).
* Centralized locks.
* Managing big binary assets.
* Having _recorded_ per-file and/or per-directory histories of changes.
(Sure there are others; these are what I can remember off the top of my
head.)

All the "issues" explained above can be addressed by 3rd-party software
"wrapping" stock Git but still Git is not for all tasks and not for
everyone.

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Re: [git-users] Could GIT help with this task?

2016-09-08 Thread Nelson Efrain A. Cruz
I think that any vcs will help you, but as already said, there will be no
magic. You will need to do de merging manually (in many cases) and after
that, you will need to check that everything it's alright.

El mié., 7 de sep. de 2016 a la(s) 19:29, 
escribió:

> Hello,
>
> I thought the git is good for all types project. Because the Linux
> distribution using this Version Control System. I haven't sure this
> thought, am I right?
>
> Thanks
>
> terça-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2016 às 23:26:54 UTC+1, charlesmanning
> escreveu:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Colleague:
>>>
>>> Before I decide to learn GIT I would like to know if it can partially
>>> handle a task which I will describe briefly.  I work with a large numerical
>>> weather prediction modeling system called WRF.  For sake of simplicity
>>> let’s suppose I start with version A which has been unmodified by me.  I
>>> make changes to A which makes version B.  Then comes along a new version C
>>> from the WRF distributer.  Would GIT help me take the changes I made in
>>> version B and incorporate them into version C to make a new version D?
>>> What would that operation be called in the GIT context?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Kevin Doty
>>>
>>
>> That's merging.
>>
>> The way you'd do this is start with A, create a branch on which you do
>> your fiddling and end uopp with B.
>>
>> Likewise do the same for a branch with the changes ending up with C. Then
>> merge the two branches and see if that works.
>>
>> So it sounds like you're hoping git will magically do merges for you...
>> That might be wishing too much.
>>
>> Git is pretty good at merging changes in source code, but cannot
>> effectively merge binary code. Even machine XML is more like binary code
>> than text and often gets messed up.
>>
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Re: [git-users] Could GIT help with this task?

2016-09-07 Thread edgaroliveira . dev
Hello,

I thought the git is good for all types project. Because the Linux 
distribution using this Version Control System. I haven't sure this 
thought, am I right?

Thanks

terça-feira, 6 de Setembro de 2016 às 23:26:54 UTC+1, charlesmanning 
escreveu:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:19 AM, > 
> wrote:
>
>> Colleague:
>>
>> Before I decide to learn GIT I would like to know if it can partially 
>> handle a task which I will describe briefly.  I work with a large numerical 
>> weather prediction modeling system called WRF.  For sake of simplicity 
>> let’s suppose I start with version A which has been unmodified by me.  I 
>> make changes to A which makes version B.  Then comes along a new version C 
>> from the WRF distributer.  Would GIT help me take the changes I made in 
>> version B and incorporate them into version C to make a new version D?  
>> What would that operation be called in the GIT context?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Kevin Doty
>>
>
> That's merging.
>
> The way you'd do this is start with A, create a branch on which you do 
> your fiddling and end uopp with B.
>
> Likewise do the same for a branch with the changes ending up with C. Then 
> merge the two branches and see if that works.
>
> So it sounds like you're hoping git will magically do merges for you... 
> That might be wishing too much.
>
> Git is pretty good at merging changes in source code, but cannot 
> effectively merge binary code. Even machine XML is more like binary code 
> than text and often gets messed up.
>
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Re: [git-users] Could GIT help with this task?

2016-09-06 Thread Charles Manning
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:

> Colleague:
>
> Before I decide to learn GIT I would like to know if it can partially
> handle a task which I will describe briefly.  I work with a large numerical
> weather prediction modeling system called WRF.  For sake of simplicity
> let’s suppose I start with version A which has been unmodified by me.  I
> make changes to A which makes version B.  Then comes along a new version C
> from the WRF distributer.  Would GIT help me take the changes I made in
> version B and incorporate them into version C to make a new version D?
> What would that operation be called in the GIT context?
>
> Many thanks,
> Kevin Doty
>

That's merging.

The way you'd do this is start with A, create a branch on which you do your
fiddling and end uopp with B.

Likewise do the same for a branch with the changes ending up with C. Then
merge the two branches and see if that works.

So it sounds like you're hoping git will magically do merges for you...
That might be wishing too much.

Git is pretty good at merging changes in source code, but cannot
effectively merge binary code. Even machine XML is more like binary code
than text and often gets messed up.

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[git-users] Could GIT help with this task?

2016-09-06 Thread kevin . doty
Colleague:

Before I decide to learn GIT I would like to know if it can partially 
handle a task which I will describe briefly.  I work with a large numerical 
weather prediction modeling system called WRF.  For sake of simplicity 
let’s suppose I start with version A which has been unmodified by me.  I 
make changes to A which makes version B.  Then comes along a new version C 
from the WRF distributer.  Would GIT help me take the changes I made in 
version B and incorporate them into version C to make a new version D? 
 What would that operation be called in the GIT context?

Many thanks,
Kevin Doty

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