Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Misunderstanding Broadband

2003-11-11 Thread Peter Burgess
Dear Colleagues,

Thank you, Allen Hammond, for your clarifying message. The difference
between ICT, the tool and the information that gets communicated using
the tool is, of course, fundamental.

When I used the phrase narrowband everywhere, I was not intending this
to be construed in a very narrow literal way, and refer just to, say,
the use of outmoded technology. Far from it. What I intended to have
understood is the idea that the very best of technology should be used
to get the lowest cost of communication, AND the information going over
the infrastructure is simply what is most valuable and at the same time
affordable to the user. And I should, of course, stress that value in
this case is not what I think is valuable but what the user of the tool
thinks is valuable.

And this issue of value to the user is critical to the question of
sustainability. I have written many times that there are three numbers
that are important. The cost, the price and the value. A development
initiative has the chance of being sustainable when the cost is low and
the value is high. The price needs to fall in between the low cost and
the high value, and it needs to be affordable to the users in the
context of the local economy. [As an aside, if all development projects
were put through this test during the appraisal and justification
process, most would never get approved for funding and resources would
be much less wasted].

ICT and connectivity, like so many other themes of development, tends
to be pushed into development rather than getting pulled in by the
intended beneficiaries. I cannot tell you how many times over my career
in development consultancy that local people have asked me why
development money never is available to help them get what they need,
but only for things that are in our projects [that is on our NORTH
agenda].

So back to the basic question. How to get the most value from ICT into
the beneficiary community? And my answer to that is very best technology
being used to facilitate some (rather than narrowband) electronic two
way communication everywhere. This should give the right cost, price,
value and affordability profile and therefore be sustainable.

Sincerely

Peter Burgess

Peter Burgess
ATCnet in New York
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Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] How Much Bandwidth is Necessary?

2003-11-11 Thread S Woodside
On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 08:26  AM, Cornelio Hopmann wrote:

 Hence: if the alternative is to connect many (and through-out the
 country) by low-bandwidth or a few with megabyte links, go for the
 first. The latter will come -almost by itself- as technology costs fall
 and demand increases.


I would say rather that the different technologies that are available
are so different and so randomly effective it's impossible to say that
either low-bandwidth or high-bandwidth is better. Pragmatically, a more
scatter-shot approach would have more likelihood of succeeding. Launch
many projects with many technologies. Some will work, some won't. Learn
from the failures and repeat the successes. Every time a new technology
comes along give it a chance.

Not only that, but the high cost of a PC or a laptop needs to be
considered. A PC is expensive, whether it's connected to high-bandwidth
or low. So a substantial sum of the total ICT investment isn't going to
change no matter what the bandwidth plan might be.

simon






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Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Misunderstanding Broadband

2003-11-11 Thread Jim Forster
I agree with this Al.

I'll attempt to clarify another aspect of the confusion in the usage of
the term Broadband.

In many usages broadband implies more bandwidth than narrowband. This
is the typical usage in the context of areas with well-developed
traditional communications infrastructures, typically PTT and PSTN
based.

The other aspect of the term broadband has less to do with the amount of
delivered bandwidth than the fact that it uses different infrastructure
than narrowband.  Narrowband typically means DS-0, analog-modems, a
copper loop from a Central Office, and classic phone switch. Broadband
might use any of cable modems, DSL, licensed wireless or unlicensed
(e.g. 802.11).

I agree that in many cases surprisingly little bandwidth can be quite
useful, and at the same time in 802.11 (or similar technologies) is the
cheapest way to deliver access bandwidth.

Finally, we need to separately consider the access bandwidth and the
backhaul bandwidth. In many small village environments 802.11 can very
economically support several mbps of shared local bandwidth. The
monthly expense of the backhaul connection (VSAT and ISP fee) dominates
the cost and limits the available bandwidth.

   -- Jim



On 11/6/03 11:22 AM, Al Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to reply to Peter Burgess and clear up an important
 misconception. Connectivity is essential for local networking, for
 access to information, for local content generation, for increasing
 transparency and trust, for e-commerce--so its not the goal, but it is a
 critical tool. In most developing communities, especially rural,
 wireless access is the only affordable approach. Broadband wireless is
 critical to development, because existing and especially next generation
 technologies allow you to connect widely dispersed users with a single
 piece of equipment--thus aggregating the demand and lowering the cost of
 access--and to do so in unlicensed spectra, thus enabling small
 entrepreneurs and non-proft groups to provide access without waiting for
 large carriers (in principle--there are still regulatory barriers in
 many places). WiFi networks already cover ranges of 100 miles or more,
 with repeaters and tuned anntennae--in Laos, in California, in India,
 and in many other places. WiMax networks will cover whole cities (30
 mile braodcast range, not point to point) or link widely scattered local
 WiFi networks. (3-G cellular data networks have many similar features,
 but operate only in liscensed spectra.)
 
 Thus the critical feature of broadband wireless is that it will lower
 end user cost, by aggregating more demand. The fact that it is broadband
 and allows more multimedia content (such as video mail and video
 conferencing, and face/voice recognition for secure identity in
 transaction, and more intuitive graphic interfaces--all important for
 semi-literate users) is simply a bonus. The key fact is the superior
 economics of wireless broadband from the point of the end user--these
 are not luxury class items, but instead absolutely critical to spreading
 connectivity access to poor communities at prices they can afford. I
 think it important that the ICT for development community become aware
 of these characteristics, so they don't unknowingly oppose advances that
 could really make a huge difference in poor communities.







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