Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-22 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 21 May 2011 13:27:38 +0200 Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > If you found a bug, and even more, it's repeatable for you, please file > a bug report and describe the way to reproduce it. Ha, very sorry that the project is not an easy-go for a dev. Creating reproducable setups for software spre

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-21 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 21.05.2011 10:33, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:01:22 +0200 Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: On 20.05.2011 15:51, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: most of them are just an outcome of not being able to find a working i.e. best solution for a problem. cache-timeout? thread-co

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-21 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:01:22 +0200 Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > On 20.05.2011 15:51, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > most of them are just an outcome of not being able to find a working i.e. > > best > > solution for a problem. cache-timeout? thread-count? quick-read? > > stat-prefetch? Gim

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 20.05.2011 15:51, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: most of them are just an outcome of not being able to find a working i.e. best solution for a problem. cache-timeout? thread-count? quick-read? stat-prefetch? Gimme a break. Being a fs I'd even say all the cache-size paras are bogus. When did y

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
Jeff, let me give a final word on that. I have no assets with this company and no other linux company, and that's why I seem to gain the role of the bad boy pretty often in scenarios when people loose track of the obvious. If it is not obvious to you that there are serious problems both with stabil

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Jeff Darcy
On 05/20/2011 09:51 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Forgive my ignorance Jeff, but it is obvious to anyone having used glusterfs > for months or years that the guys have a serious software design issue. No, it is not. I've been using and watching its development for years, I know its code far

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 20 May 2011 08:35:35 -0400 Jeff Darcy wrote: > On 05/20/2011 05:15 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > Sorry, this clearly shows the problem: understanding. It really does > > not help you a lot to hire a big number of people, you do not fail in > > terms of business relation. Your pro

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Jeff Darcy
On 05/20/2011 05:15 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > Sorry, this clearly shows the problem: understanding. It really does > not help you a lot to hire a big number of people, you do not fail in > terms of business relation. Your problem is the _code_. You need a > filesystem expert. A _real_ o

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-20 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:16:59 -0700 Anand Babu Periasamy wrote: > GlusterFS is completely free. Same versions released to the community are > used for commercial deployments too. Their issues gets higher priority > though. Code related to other proprietary software such as VMWare, AWS, > RightScal

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-19 Thread Mohit Anchlia
sday, May 19, 2011 11:20 AM >> To: gluster-users@gluster.org >> Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? >> >> > Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:00:30 +0200 From: Udo Waechter >> > Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] > gluster >> > 3.2.0 -

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-19 Thread Anthony J. Biacco
http://www.formatdynamics.com > -Original Message- > From: gluster-users-boun...@gluster.org [mailto:gluster-users- > boun...@gluster.org] On Behalf Of Dan Bretherton > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:20 AM > To: gluster-users@gluster.org > Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-19 Thread Dan Bretherton
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:00:30 +0200 From: Udo Waechter Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? To: Gluster Users Message-ID: <948199a7-c1ee-42cb-8540-8856000d0...@uni-osnabrueck.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" On 18.05

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-19 Thread Burnash, James
luster.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Darcy Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:04 PM To: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? On 05/18/2011 11:09 AM, Burnash, James wrote: > Based on my experiences so far, I would absolutely agree with you. > > I kno

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread paul simpson
great to know - this is very reassuring to hear! i know it's early days for a file-system - and that fact so many people are using it so quickly (say, as compared to BTRFS) is amazing. i think there's lots of goodwill here - which can/will translate into a even more vibrant community. i look for

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Anthony J. Biacco
Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? > > Running that command will set that option only on the server side. But > it looks like you want it on the client volume file for which there > currently is not any command. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Just

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Anand Babu Periasamy
GlusterFS is completely free. Same versions released to the community are used for commercial deployments too. Their issues gets higher priority though. Code related to other proprietary software such as VMWare, AWS, RightScale are kept proprietary. We acknowledge that we have done a poor job when

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Mohit Anchlia
PM > To: 'Justice London'; 'Tomasz Chmielewski'; 'Anthony J. Biacco' > Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org > Subject: RE: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? > > I believe that it is more consistent and repeatable to just use the gluster > command

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 18.05.2011 21:48, Justice London wrote: I had issues with hanging of mounts as well with 3.2. I fixed it via upping the number of connections allowed to the fuse mount... by default it's something silly low like 16. What option exactly is it, and where do I set it? That could be it, as the

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 18.05.2011 21:34, Anthony J. Biacco wrote: When you say you removed the config before and added the nodes after, do you mean you deleted the volume and recreated it? Yes. I think I tried to do this without removing the config first, but 3.1.4 was complaining upon startup. Also, I've read a

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Justice London
: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:57 PM To: 'Justice London'; 'Tomasz Chmielewski'; 'Anthony J. Biacco' Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: RE: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? I believe that it is more consistent and repeatable to just use the gluster com

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Burnash, James
ice London Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:49 PM To: 'Tomasz Chmielewski'; 'Anthony J. Biacco' Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? Whoops, and forgot the threads edit for the brick instance config: volume -io-threads

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Justice London
. Biacco Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? On 18.05.2011 18:56, Anthony J. Biacco wrote: > I'm using it in real-world production, lot of small files (apache > webroot mounts mostly). I've seen a bunch of split-brain and self-heal

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Justice London
er.org] On Behalf Of Tomasz Chmielewski Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:05 AM To: Anthony J. Biacco Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? On 18.05.2011 18:56, Anthony J. Biacco wrote: > I'm using it in real-world production, lot of small files

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Joe Landman
On 05/18/2011 03:27 PM, Udo Waechter wrote: On 18.05.2011, at 19:13, Joe Landman wrote: +1 Folks, get an account there, and report problems, even if you haven't paid for support. Second, if you haven't paid for support, and you are using it in a production environment to either make money o

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Udo Waechter
On 18.05.2011, at 19:13, Joe Landman wrote: > > +1 Folks, get an account there, and report problems, even if you haven't > paid for support. > > Second, if you haven't paid for support, and you are using it in a production > environment to either make money or support your mission, please, h

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Udo Waechter
Hi, On 18.05.2011, at 19:14, Anand Avati wrote: > Udo, > Do you know what kind of access was performed on those files? Were they just > copied in (via cp), were they rsync'ed over an existing set of data? Was it > data carried over from 3.1 into a 3.2 system? We hate to lose We started our fi

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:34:43AM -0700, Anand Avati wrote: > 3.1.4 - gained a few bugs > >Can someone throw more light on this? We do not have any open bugs in >bugzilla marked against 3.1.4 - which means either >a) They were reported and fixed, but we haven't made a release yet

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Anand Avati
> > > 3.1.4 - gained a few bugs > > Can someone throw more light on this? We do not have any open bugs in bugzilla marked against 3.1.4 - which means either a) They were reported and fixed, but we haven't made a release yet b) We have not been fixing it because we have not yet heard about it! Av

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Joe Landman
On 05/18/2011 01:04 PM, Jeff Darcy wrote: On 05/18/2011 11:09 AM, Burnash, James wrote: [...] As the leader for a project based on GlusterFS, I'm also very sensitive to the stability issue. It is a bit disappointing when every major release seems to be marked by significant regressions in exi

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Anand Avati
Udo, Do you know what kind of access was performed on those files? Were they just copied in (via cp), were they rsync'ed over an existing set of data? Was it data carried over from 3.1 into a 3.2 system? We hate to lose users (community users or paid customers equally) and will do our best to keep

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 18.05.2011 18:56, Anthony J. Biacco wrote: I’m using it in real-world production, lot of small files (apache webroot mounts mostly). I’ve seen a bunch of split-brain and self-heal failing when I first did the switch. After I removed and recreated the dirs it seemed to be fine for about a week

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Jeff Darcy
On 05/18/2011 11:09 AM, Burnash, James wrote: > Based on my experiences so far, I would absolutely agree with you. > > I know new releases are hard to produce at 100% coming out of the > gate, so the fact that 3.2 is not all that robust is unsurprising to > me. Hopefully the point releases improve

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Udo Waechter
On 18.05.2011, at 18:56, Anthony J. Biacco wrote: > > I’m actually thinking of downgrading to 3.1.3 from 3.2.0. Wonder if I’d have > any ill-effects on the volume with a simple rpm downgrade and daemon restart. I read somewhere in the docs that you need to reset the volume option beforehand g

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Udo Waechter
Hi, and thanks for the answers. On 18.05.2011, at 15:54, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > From reading this list, I wonder if this would be an accurate summary of the > current state of Gluster: > > 3.1.3 - most dependable current version > > 3.1.4 - gained a few bugs > > 3.2.0 - not stable > > So 3.1.

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Anthony J. Biacco
to:gluster-users-boun...@gluster.org] On Behalf Of paul simpson Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:05 AM To: Whit Blauvelt Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? hi guys, we're using 3.1.3 and i'm not moving off it. i totally agree

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Burnash, James
ster-users-boun...@gluster.org] On Behalf Of Whit Blauvelt Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: Udo Waechter Cc: gluster-users@gluster.org Subject: Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken? >From reading this list, I wonder if this would be an accurate summary of the >cur

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread paul simpson
hi guys, we're using 3.1.3 and i'm not moving off it. i totally agree with stephans comments: the gluster devs *need* to concentrate on stability before adding any new features. it seems gluster dev is sales driven - not tech focused. we need less new buzz words - and more solid foundations. g

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
>From reading this list, I wonder if this would be an accurate summary of the current state of Gluster: 3.1.3 - most dependable current version 3.1.4 - gained a few bugs 3.2.0 - not stable So 3.1.3 would be suitable for production systems, as long as the known bug in mishandling Posix group per

Re: [Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:45:19 +0200 Udo Waechter wrote: > Hi there, > after reporting some trouble with group access permissions, > http://gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2011-May/007619.html (which > still persist, btw.) > > things get worse and worse with each day. > [...] > Currently our

[Gluster-users] gluster 3.2.0 - totally broken?

2011-05-18 Thread Udo Waechter
Hi there, after reporting some trouble with group access permissions, http://gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2011-May/007619.html (which still persist, btw.) things get worse and worse with each day. Now, we see a lot of duplicate files (again, only fuse-clients here), access permissions