A little press for next Wednesday

2002-07-03 Thread Alan R.
Hi All, Ximian has a little press about next weeks GNHLUG meeting today in the Nashua Telegraph. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&TypeID=1&SectionID=30&Art icleID=59770&SubSectionID=90 It's nice to see. FYI, Alan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-vir

Re: package management, etc. (was Re: Debian flamewar reborn)

2002-07-03 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, at 12:20pm, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > Missing from both right now, I think, is the ability to say that a > > particular package is recommended, but not required (does

Re: package management, etc. (was Re: Debian flamewar reborn)

2002-07-03 Thread bscott
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, at 12:20pm, Derek D. Martin wrote: > Missing from both right now, I think, is the ability to say that a > particular package is recommended, but not required (does dpkg do this?) Debian's system does do this. A package can be "Required", "Recommended", or "Suggested". It i

package management, etc. (was Re: Debian flamewar reborn)

2002-07-03 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Rich Payne hath spake thusly: > RedHat user, both have their advatages and disadvantages and one of the > advantages of Debian is that the packaging system is a little bit ahead of > RedHat (nothing that can't be fixed with a

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread bscott
On 3 Jul 2002, at 11:43am, Cole Tuininga wrote: > We have a couple RH boxes around here, one of which is 7.2. I tried doing > exactly this, and it began to complain about missing some rpm rpms? I > couldn't figure out how to fulfill the dependency? That's odd. What RPMs was it complaining ab

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 Jul 2002, at 2:24pm, Cole Tuininga wrote: > > Step 1) apt-get update > > Step 2) apt-get -u upgrade > > Well, Red Hat nicely provides the "up2date" utility, which does the same > thing, in one less step: > > Step 1) up2date -u We

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread bscott
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, at 9:12am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Right, but RedHat still hasn't released the code to their up2date server > right? No, nor do they plan to. Red Hat considers their update server system to be an intellectual property asset and a value-added service. However, the up2da

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread bscott
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, at 8:42am, Rich Payne wrote: > We do paint with a broad brush stroak don't we. Yes, and I want to apologize for the tone of my messages in this thread yesterday. While everything I said had a basis in real opinions and experience, I went a little over the top with the sarca

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread rdp
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Ben Boulanger wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Rich Payne wrote: > > OK then, show me how to point up2date at a different repository? Or better > > yet how to setup my own up2date server. Yes, I'm a Debian user, I'm also a > > RedHat user, both have their advatages and disadvant

Re: windowing systems

2002-07-03 Thread Ganesan M
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, at 7:37pm, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: > > What GUI do you folks recommend. I'd rather not be trapped in KDE or > > Gnome. Is there a standard/accepted GUI that C++ people write to ? Is it > > portable to Motif, KDE, Gnome ? > > KDE uses Qt, but Qt does not need KDE. Qt i

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Rich Payne wrote: > OK then, show me how to point up2date at a different repository? Or better > yet how to setup my own up2date server. Yes, I'm a Debian user, I'm also a > RedHat user, both have their advatages and disadvantages and one of the > advantages of Debian is tha

Re: Debian flamewar reborn (was: Open SSH for Red Hat 6.2)

2002-07-03 Thread Rich Payne
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 Jul 2002, at 2:24pm, Cole Tuininga wrote: > > Step 1) apt-get update > > Step 2) apt-get -u upgrade > > Well, Red Hat nicely provides the "up2date" utility, which does the same > thing, in one less step: > > Step 1) up2date -u While up2dat