On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
>
> Bill Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Use Python
>
> Please show us the code.
#!/usr/bin/python
#
# basenamesort.py
#
# Unix-style filter that sorts a newline-separated
# list of files by the file basename
#
# Example
On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 01:16 PM, Ben Boulanger wrote:
> http://www.informationwave.net/news/20020819riaa.php
>
> IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network
>
> August 19, 2002
>
> Information Wave Technologies has announced...
You left out the coolest part!
" Information Wave will also d
I cannot believe someone would desecrate Tux like that, putting the
Winblows symbol on him and all. That is a really sick, twisted joke. He
he, cool.
Jeff K.
At 07:40 AM 8/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Check out Microsoft's distro of Linux:
>
> http://www.mslinux.org/
>
>_
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At some point hitherto, Kevin D. Clark hath spake thusly:
> > BTW, this is actually a fairly good example of
> > why my immune system always concludes that I'm
> > in physical danger when perl code is visible...
I would point out that it's just as po
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 13:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yeah, at first I was pretty happy with this announcement, but now I'm
> thinking it's just a form of censorship. They have no right to tell
> me what sites I visit. If I were a customer of theirs, I'd be paying
> for *Internet* access.
Bill Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Use Python
Please show us the code.
Thanks,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) writes:
> Thank you. I think. For the benefit of those
> here assembled, please supply an explanation.
OK, since you asked.
You have a list of stuff that you want sorted. The problem is is that
you want your stuff sorted according to a field contained i
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> In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:46:40 EDT
> Michael O'Donnell said:
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> >Suggestions for improvement welcome.
>
> Use perl.
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>[pause to pull-start the 500cc swiss-army chainsaw...]
>
>perl -e 'print map { $_->[0], "\n" } sort { $a->[1] cmp $b->[1] } map { [$_, @{
>chomp; m#/[^/]*$#}[0]] } '
>
>Hope this helps,
Thank you. I think. For the benefit of those
here assembled, please supply an explanation.
BTW, this is
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 3:46pm, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
> My current approach is a bit clunky but works as long as the pathnames in
> question contain no spaces, thus:
>
> sed -e 's;/\([^/]*\)$; \1;' | sort -bfd +1 | sed -e 's; ;/;'
Suggestion: Use a star (*) instead of a space. Filenames c
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:14:11 EDT
Michael O'Donnell said:
>So, did you suggest perl just to be a pest, or would
>it actually offer an advantage? Let me guess: in perl,
>the construct "$@!$*->___++" does exactly what I want...
Well, I can't really hope to play "One-upmanship" wi
>>Suggestions for improvement welcome.
>
>Use perl.
I might first need to use some of those immuno-suppressive
drugs they give to transplant recipients because, although
I'd never deny perl's obvious utility, I think I might be
allergic to it; every time I look at some perl code I get
the heave
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Anyone have experience getting a laptop with an NVidia GeForce
to suspend to disk? IIRC last time I tried this, it caused problems
that caused the laptop to lock up and not recover. OTOH, I could just
be remembering badly. It's rough getting old...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) writes:
> Given a list of pathnames, I'd like to be able to
> sort that list by the basename of each file in the
> list
[pause to pull-start the 500cc swiss-army chainsaw...]
perl -e 'print map { $_->[0], "\n" } sort { $a->[1] cmp $b->[1] } map { [$_, @{ c
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Red Hat has a file called /etc/redhat-release. Debian has a file called
> /etc/debian_release (or something close to that; I don't have a Debian
> system to check). Other distros do similar things. Of course, this
> leads to an identification algo
When: Wednesday, 21 August 2002, 19:30ish
Where: Martha's Exchange, Nashua (2nd floor)
Why:Because we haven't gotten together there in a while.
(and to heckle Ben :)
Topic: We have none, but if people want to attempt a mini-install
fest, bring CDs of the distro of your
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:46:40 EDT
Michael O'Donnell said:
>Suggestions for improvement welcome.
Use perl.
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It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.
If you're not
Given a list of pathnames, I'd like to be able to
sort that list by the basename of each file in the
list, ie. the pathname
q/r/s/t/u/v/aaa
...would sort ahead of
//bbb
...because the basename 'aaa' sorts lexicographically
ahead of 'bbb'.
My current approach is a bit clunky bu
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At some point hitherto, Mark Komarinski hath spake thusly:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:15:36AM -0400, mike ledoux wrote:
> > I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
> > I've yet to find a reliable method.
>
> /etc/iss
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At some point hitherto, Jeff Macdonald hath spake thusly:
> Ok, how about /proc/version?
/proc/version contains the version of the kernel, the user@host it was
built on, and the version of the compiler it was built with. The
system it was built on n
On 19 Aug 2002, at 2:21pm, Jeff Macdonald wrote:
> Ok, how about /proc/version?
That just appears to be the union of the information contained in "uname
-a" and "gcc -v". In particular, it does not actually give the distribution
anywhere. I suppose you could maintain a table which mapped comp
Ok, how about /proc/version?
[jeff@server1 jeff]$ more /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)
[jeff@server1 jeff]$ more /proc/version
Linux version 2.2.17-14.8RS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release))
#1 Fri Apr 13 01:58:55 CDT 2001
[jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> So, as Ben S. said:
>
> "And so it begins..."
>
> It will be amusing who sues for what, and what the counter-suits will
> be as well :)
"I will miss this...when it is gone."
--kevin
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At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly:
> (not that I have *ever* gone to the RIAA site before, or would ever want
> to in the future, I just think this is a dangerous and slippery slope
> to climb!)
Know your enemy.
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At some point hitherto, Mark Komarinski hath spake thusly:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 12:26:12PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote:
> > At some point hitherto, Mark Komarinski hath spake thusly:
> > > > Which most security-concious admins still remove or ze
In a message dated: 19 Aug 2002 13:50:17 EDT
Jeff Macdonald said:
>How about using GCC?
>
>$ gcc -v
>Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
>gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-112)
H, interesting. However, it's not reliable, since I've seen
many, m
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:46:12 EDT
Ben Boulanger said:
>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Yeah, at first I was pretty happy with this announcement, but now I'm
>> thinking it's just a form of censorship. They have no right to tell
>> me what sites I visit. If I w
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At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly:
> > I disagree. The solution is to provide a package specific to each
> > distribution. Of course, your system admin has to pay attention...
> > It would need to be named differently on each rel
Ok, how about any non-english charset?
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 11:37, mike ledoux wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:15:00AM -0400, Jeff Macdonald wrote:
> > anybody know a smart way to ignore any charset but US-ASCII? I currently
> > have rules
How about using GCC?
$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-112)
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 11:26, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
>
>
> > I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or
> > Red Hat? I've
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yeah, at first I was pretty happy with this announcement, but now I'm
> thinking it's just a form of censorship. They have no right to tell
> me what sites I visit. If I were a customer of theirs, I'd be paying
> for *Internet* access. That mean
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:30:30 EDT
Mark Komarinski said:
>This is a really strange discussion. You (collectively) want to know
>what kind of distro you're running, but the tools you've been given
>are security holes because they give the exact information you're
>looking for!
Ex
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 12:26:12PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote:
> At some point hitherto, Mark Komarinski hath spake thusly:
> > > Which most security-concious admins still remove or zero as a matter
> > > of course. Why tell the net-at-large what holes to look for?
> >
> > Uhm...how can you te
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:32:53 EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 1:16pm, Ben Boulanger wrote:
>> IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network
>
> "And so it begins..."
Yeah, at first I was pretty happy with this announcement, but now I'm
thinking it's just a form
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 1:16pm, Ben Boulanger wrote:
> IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network
"And so it begins..."
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August 19, 2002
Information Wave Technologies has announced it will actively deny the
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contents of its network. Earlier this year, t
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:27:43 EDT
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> Figuring out which distro "flavor" you are on (Red Hat Linux, Debian
>GNU/Linux, etc.) is, I think, the most we can ask for.
Agreed, but it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too :)
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>At least in 6.2, they tested for file existance before
>trying to use it... 7.3 doesn't even bother doing that.
You apparently missed their announcement; as of 7.3
RedHat introduced the optimization of simply assuming
that *everybody* is using their distribution, so the
ID files are deemed n
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At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly:
> For example, if I have a RH 6.2 system, I might well upgrade the
> sh-utils package to that which shipped with 7.3. Does uname now
> report that I'm using 7.3 or 6.2? How does it deter
Good day, Benjamin, Karl, all,
(sorry for the late response, hope it might still be useful).
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Karl J. Runge wrote:
> > So I know I will be using a bunch of local xterms containing remote shells
> > for the bulk of my work.
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At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly:
> I suspect redhat-release was just never included in the Kickstart profile.
> Whether that is a bug in Kickstart or a bug in the dependencies depends on
> your point-of-view. Either wa
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At some point hitherto, Mark Komarinski hath spake thusly:
> > Which most security-concious admins still remove or zero as a matter
> > of course. Why tell the net-at-large what holes to look for?
>
> Uhm...how can you tell the contents of /etc/issu
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 12:09pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For example, if I have a RH 6.2 system, I might well upgrade the sh-utils
> package to that which shipped with 7.3.
Figuring out which distro "flavor" you are on (Red Hat Linux, Debian
GNU/Linux, etc.) is, I think, the most we can ask
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:59:25 EDT
mike ledoux said:
>That's what I thought you were going to say. Of course, as pointed out
>elsethread, that method is quite unreliable, at least for Red Hat.
Well, yeah, which has been my complaint for a long time. There is no
reliable method
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 11:46am, mike ledoux wrote:
> [root@ibm1 /root]# cat /etc/redhat-release
> cat: /etc/redhat-release: No such file or directory
>
> This is on a kickstart-installed RH6.2 box. 'redhat-release' is an
> optional package, at least in 6.2.
*shakes head in disbelief* Accor
Likewise, SuSE has a file, /etc/SuSE-release
I'm not sure, but this might be part of LSB.
On 19 Aug 2002 at 11:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Red Hat has a file called /etc/redhat-release. Debian has a file called
> /etc/debian_release (or something close to that; I don't have a Debian
> system
Good day, Ed,
On 10 Aug 2002, Ed Robbins wrote:
> I'm about to help a local ISP update their NOC and I'm in need of some
> rack mount servers. Anyone in the group have a preferred supplier
> and/or comments/experience with particular brands/models...Could I put
> anymore /'s in a sentance
>
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:15:36 EDT
mike ledoux said:
>I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
>I've yet to find a reliable method.
cat /etc/redhat_release || cat /etc/debian_version
Almost all distros do have a similar file.
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On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:43:06AM -0400, mike ledoux wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:28:09AM -0400, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:15:36AM -0400, mike ledoux wrote:
> > > I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
> > > I've yet to find a re
In a message dated: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:12:51 EDT
Bob Bell said:
>On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:46:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> Yeah, but even rms has conceded that a Solaris system with the GNU
>> utilities added to it isn't and shouldn't be referred to as GNU/Sol
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 11:26am, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
> Wouldn't the presence of (some combination of) the various apt-related
> directories be a reliable sign that you had a Debian box?
APT has been ported to RPM.
> I don't know much about RedHat but I'd assume the corresponding RPM stuff
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 11:28am, Mark Komarinski wrote:
>> I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
>> I've yet to find a reliable method.
>
> /etc/issue will tell you.
Relying on /etc/issue is a bad idea. If the admin is using /etc/issue for
what it was intende
On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 07:10, Thomas M. Albright wrote:
> On 17 Aug 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote:
>
>
> > Add to that the fact that Red Hat's latest beta, Limbo2 ...
>
>
> I tried to go look at, maybe download, the new beta but all I got were
> empty directories. I don't suppose you have some .
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At some point hitherto, John Abreau hath spake thusly:
> "Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Feel free to have a look. http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/
>
> I took a look at it, and found you've hit on one of my pet peeves:
> when yo
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, mike ledoux wrote:
> I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
> I've yet to find a reliable method.
>
cat /etc/redhat-release. if it doesn't work, you're not using redhat. :)
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 11:15am, mike ledoux wrote:
> I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
> I've yet to find a reliable method.
Red Hat has a file called /etc/redhat-release. Debian has a file called
/etc/debian_release (or something close to that; I don't h
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:15:36AM -0400, mike ledoux wrote:
> I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat?
> I've yet to find a reliable method.
/etc/issue will tell you.
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> I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or
> Red Hat? I've yet to find a reliable method.
Wouldn't the presence of (some combination of) the various
apt-related directories be a reliable sign that you had
a Debian box? Like, say, /etc/apt, /var/cache/apt and
/var/lib/apt
anybody know a smart way to ignore any charset but US-ASCII? I currently
have rules like this one:
:0 h
* ^Content-Type: text/html; charset="euc-kr"
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| (formail -r -I"Precedence: junk" \
-A"X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ; \
echo "I only know english. I n
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:46:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, but even rms has conceded that a Solaris system with the GNU
> utilities added to it isn't and shouldn't be referred to as GNU/Solaris :)
Do you have a pointer to that? I'm curious what distinctio
"Troubleshooting Daemon:
Microsoft Linux includes a new Troubleshooting Daemon (crapd) that help
you zero in on a solution if you ever have a problem."
crapd in a ms product that is to funny.
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On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 07:40, Michael O'Donnell wrote:
>
> Check out Microsoft's distro of Linux
In a message dated: 19 Aug 2002 02:00:50 EDT
Paul Iadonisi said:
> I wouldn't worry about it. I would summarily ignore the 'uname -o'
>functionality (if it can even be called that). Someone just pointed out
>'lsb_release -d' to me. Using 'lsb_release -a' or 'lsb_release -as' you
>can get all
In a message dated: 17 Aug 2002 15:42:06 EDT
Paul Iadonisi said:
> I'd have to agree that this is a pretty useless feature.
Only because they've chosen to make it so. Of course, there's
nothing preventing us from modifying that to identify which release
of which distro it is. I'll attempt to
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:55:35 EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> Therefore, the only way to discover what this field reports on other
>> distros or versions of UNIX is to get the source for sh-utils ...
>
> Here's a radical idea: Get the source for the package and see where the
>hel
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:17:30 EDT
mike ledoux said:
>Eh, if this really is a new version of GNU sh-utils, I'm sure they
>wouldn't go to that trouble. Much simpler to just have the system report
>itself as GNU/`uname -s`. :)
Yeah, but even rms has conceded that a Solaris system
Check out Microsoft's distro of Linux:
http://www.mslinux.org/
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"Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Feel free to have a look. http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/
I took a look at it, and found you've hit on one of my pet peeves:
when you untar it, your tarball makes a mess in the current directory.
I'd suggest having it untar into an "rssh-0.9.1"
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At some point hitherto, John Abreau hath spake thusly:
> Derek;
>
> In regards to the dummy shell you wrote that restricts itself to scp and
> sftp-server commands, it might be useful to also permit imapd and popd.
It's not a bad idea, but I think
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