(slightly off-topic) Sony Viao GRX520 woes...

2004-10-13 Thread Fred
I have a problem. My laptop is giving me grief. When I try to cold start it on power-on, it seemly gets hung up in the initial bootstrap from what I can tell -- never even makes it to the little Sony logo and short melody it plays. Screen is blank and dead. I have to make several attempts to get i

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Fred
When all else fails, try swapping out the network card for a known good one. I'm running 2.6.8.1 and it's as fast and chipper as anything network-wise. If you still see problems after a card swap, try tweaking the kernel config and rebuild it. If THAT fails, take 2 pills and call me in the morni

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> You're concerned that somebody might be able to use >> the "poweroff" user's credentials to gain other root >> privileges? I've not heard of a scenario where this >> would be a problem. > >The man page for su shows an option for changing the default shell that >is run, "-s". I assume the risk

RE: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
An idea which comes to mind based on some of the ones already put out: Create a less-privileged account called "reboot" (or whatever) and setup a sudo allowing that ID to run the shutdown. Setup a call that will kick off that sudo as your default shell. Then, put a call to that same sudo as the fi

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 14:33, Scott Garman wrote: > The man page for su shows an option for changing the default shell that > is run, "-s". I assume the risk here would be if one of these users were > to run "su -s /bin/bash" and use the shutdown account's > password to obtain an unrestricted root

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Scott Garman
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 14:11, Michael ODonnell wrote: > > useradd -c "execute reboot" > [...] > > -u 0 > > poweroff > > > There aren't any security problems here? It seems like there could > > be potential issues with having a "second root" account where the > > password w

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 01:37:00PM -0400, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Cole Tuininga writes: > > I manage a system remotely for some people who are not terribly linux > > (or really, computer) savvy. When they need to move the server for > > whatever reason, they just hit the power button to shut it of

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
> useradd -c "execute reboot" [...] > -u 0 > poweroff > There aren't any security problems here? It seems like there could > be potential issues with having a "second root" account where the > password was known. I'm not sure where exactly the problem would > come fr

RE: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Whelan, Paul
It's a feature of ACPI. Although you'll need to disable APM and make sure you have some tools installed (http://acpid.sourceforge.net) http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/01-2004/8099.html Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Cole Tuininga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Wednesday, Oct 13th 2004 at 12:12 -0400, quoth Cole Tuininga: => =>Here's a question for you folks. => =>I manage a system remotely for some people who are not terribly linux =>(or really, computer) savvy. When they need to move the server for =>whatever reason, they just hit the power butto

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 13:37, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > I accidently hit the power button for a second on my Fedora Core 2 box > (kernel 2.6.x) the other night. A few seconds later, the system shut > itself down cleanly. No, there wasn't a whole lot going on on the box > at the time. > > I've never

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:59, Bill McGonigle wrote: > Do they use ctrl-alt-delete to legitimately cause a restart? You could > modify inittab to do a shutdown instead. They do, but they need to keep that functionality. Otherwise that would be a fairly ideal solution. They've used windows - they

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:59, Michael ODonnell wrote: > How about this? > > useradd -c "execute reboot" > -d /root > -g 0 > -p initialPasswd > -s /usr/bin/poweroff > -o > -u 0 > poweroff There aren't any security problems here? It se

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Cole Tuininga writes: > I manage a system remotely for some people who are not terribly linux > (or really, computer) savvy. When they need to move the server for > whatever reason, they just hit the power button to shut it off. > > Obviously, this is not preferable. I accidently hit the powe

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
>If not for the X part it sounds alot like a duplex mismatch. Heh. That would be weird. You can query the interfaces on the various machines with mii-tool. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gn

RE: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Whelan, Paul
What network driver are using? Is it the e100 or eepro100? I've seen some strange behavior with these drivers. -Original Message- From: Bill McGonigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:10 PM To: Kenneth E. Lussier Cc: GNHLUG Subject: Re: kernel 2.6.8 On Oct

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Oct 13, 2004, at 09:48, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: If it were just ssh, then I would think that that might be the problem. However, it isn't just ssh that is broken. Traceroutes don't work, telnet, ftp, etc. all are extremely slow or don't work at all. I think that it might be some sort of routin

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Oct 13, 2004, at 12:12, Cole Tuininga wrote: What I'd like to do is to give them a user account that causes the system to go into shutdown mode when logged into. This is on a Debian Woody box. Any thoughts on ways I can accomplish this? Do they use ctrl-alt-delete to legitimately cause a restart

Re: Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
How about this? useradd -c "execute reboot" -d /root -g 0 -p initialPasswd -s /usr/bin/poweroff -o -u 0 poweroff ...all on one line, of course. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PR

Unprivileged user shutdown

2004-10-13 Thread Cole Tuininga
Here's a question for you folks. I manage a system remotely for some people who are not terribly linux (or really, computer) savvy. When they need to move the server for whatever reason, they just hit the power button to shut it off. Obviously, this is not preferable. What I'd like to do i

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 09:40 -0400, Michael ODonnell wrote: > > >However, I get those errors with a 2.6.7 kernel, too, and everything > >works fine with 2.6.7. But, just for fun, I shut down X, and the problem > >seems to go away. Hmm... Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.. > > Maybe some fo

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
>However, I get those errors with a 2.6.7 kernel, too, and everything >works fine with 2.6.7. But, just for fun, I shut down X, and the problem >seems to go away. Hmm... Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.. Maybe some forwarding or authentication conflict between X and SSH? _

Re: kernel 2.6.8

2004-10-13 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 21:25 -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: Just to replay all at once... Yes, I have tried running 2.6.8.1 and: > - Do you have DNS set up correctly? Yes. > - Have you checked your /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/nsswitch.conf? Yes. I'm getting my address via dhcp, and the dns servers are