Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Kent Johnson
trying again, first time didn't seem to get through Ted Roche wrote: A client with a database-backed LAMP application is considering moving to a new hosting provider for their system. Surfing the web, they find all of these $6.95/month deals and can't figure out why anyone would pay more. I

Re: I reallly do not understand what the issue is.....

2007-03-09 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:21:32 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft's path is so much easier. Just brain-wash everyone to think that whatever you do is standard. A much easier path. Even Pope Gregory would have agreed on that point. They followed IBM's lead. The database

Re: I reallly do not understand what the issue is.....

2007-03-09 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:54:35 -0500 Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't understand all the fuss over something that we've had nearly two years to prepare? Don't those people run a real operating system? I heard that the MSFT patch for Exchange costs $4000. The Linux patch

Re: I reallly do not understand what the issue is.....

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a per-system $4,000., or a site-wide $4,000.? $4000 gets you all of the DST fixes for this issue, for Exchange and Windows, for your organization. I haven't read the EULA, but I presume you cannot give it out to people outside

Re: I reallly do not understand what the issue is.....

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently, not only does Windows need to be patched, but also various programs. That much is hardly unique to Microsoft. Among other things, Sun's Java Runtime Environment needs fixes. Plenty of application software will need attention,

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Ted Roche
On Mar 9, 2007, at 6:28 AM, Kent Johnson wrote: In my new job I am hosting a web site at WebFactional. I thought you might be interested in some first impressions. We are hosted at the Shared 1 level ($9.50 / month). At present I am running a minimal Django app, a Trac site and a Subversion

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 06:28:29AM -0500, Kent Johnson wrote: trying again, first time didn't seem to get through Ted Roche wrote: A client with a database-backed LAMP application is considering moving to a new hosting provider for their system. Surfing the web, they find all of these

MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Does anyone in the LUG have colocation experience with MV communications? I know I've heard good things in general about them on the LUG, but I'm specifically looking for experience with their Manchester colocation facility. The girl on the phone said they had UPS's but no backup generator, so

Re: MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Travis Roy
On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Drew Van Zandt wrote: Does anyone in the LUG have colocation experience with MV communications? I know I've heard good things in general about them on the LUG, but I'm specifically looking for experience with their Manchester colocation facility. The girl on the

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Kent Johnson
Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 06:28:29AM -0500, Kent Johnson wrote: In my new job I am hosting a web site at WebFactional. I thought you might be interested in some first impressions. I believe webfaction -- which it looks like is the same thing as webfactional -- is run

Re: MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Bruce Dawson
I've been using them for years, and have had no trouble. The only time they seem to have power problems is when the power is out for over 3 hours (like the substation fire a few years ago). Although I don't know if they have that much capacity in the UPS. The bandwidth depends on your price - the

Re: [Fwd: Ecma responses to ISO]

2007-03-09 Thread Bill Sconce
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:15:33 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: md The document can be accessed at mdhttp://www.computerworld.com/pdfs/Ecma.pdf. md Best Regards, md Jomar Indeed. Dates off? No problem: 4 OpenXML supports two systems for converting numbers to

Re: MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Bill Sconce
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:39:51 -0400 Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using them [MV] for years, and have had no trouble. The only time they seem to have power problems is when the power is out for over 3 hours (like the substation fire a few years ago). Although I don't know if

Re: [Fwd: Ecma responses to ISO]

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4 OpenXML supports two systems for converting numbers to their date format representations: 5 1. The 1900 date base system represents the technical decisions, including technical errors, of a prominent 6 early spreadsheet

Re: MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone in the LUG have colocation experience with MV communications? You might say that. The GNHLUG website and/or mailing list have been hosted with MV, in their Manchester colo facility, for years. Free of charge. I think we've only

Re: [Fwd: Ecma responses to ISO]

2007-03-09 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Anyone know what the facts are here? 1900 was not a leap yearyup, pretty sure that is true: http://www.dpbsmith.com/leapyearfaq.txt So anything else was and is a bug, and should be fixed, not standardized and (IMHO) because it was a stupid bug, the bug fix should be freely available.

Re: MV communications colocation

2007-03-09 Thread Chip Marshall
On March 09, 2007, Drew Van Zandt sent me the following: Does anyone in the LUG have colocation experience with MV communications? I know I've heard good things in general about them on the LUG, but I'm specifically looking for experience with their Manchester colocation facility. The girl

Re: Portable audio player

2007-03-09 Thread aluminumsulfate
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:44:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: cmarib.ramside: rusat set sender to From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mp3s can be stored in multiple directories but are all sorted alphabetically by filename on boot, so the sort order of the base filenames is the order in which they

Re: I reallly do not understand what the issue is.....

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 3/9/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently, not only does Windows need to be patched, but also various programs. That much is hardly unique to Microsoft. Among other things, Sun's Java Runtime Environment needs fixes. Plenty of

Re: [Fwd: Ecma responses to ISO]

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what the facts are here? 1900 was not a leap year Now, I *know* you're way smart enough to understand what I was asking there, and Was 1900 a leap year? was obviously not it. I can only assume you're being obtuse on

iptables question

2007-03-09 Thread David A. Long
I have a small sequential block of public IP addresses I would like to filter through to matching servers on my private network. The iptables NETMAP target looks like it might do this efficiently (combined with a lot of other rules to filter out unwanted traffic). But I cannot understand how the

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lussier
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trac and svn are running as CGIs behind Apache. I have access to the app-specific config files but not the Apache instance that runs them. What do you mean by this? How is svn run as a CGI behind Apache? -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Charron
On 3/9/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trac and svn are running as CGIs behind Apache. I have access to the app-specific config files but not the Apache instance that runs them. What do you mean by this? How is svn run as a CGI behind Apache?

Re: iptables question

2007-03-09 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/9/07, David A. Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The iptables NETMAP target looks like it might do this efficiently ... It may. I don't know if NETMAP also invokes the connection tracking and packet rewriting stuff or not. If not, then protocols which need to know about their own addresses

Palm Pilot free update to DST

2007-03-09 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
For those of you that have Palm Pilots that automatically update for DST, the Palm company has given out a free update to all their models which adjust automatically: http://News.palmnewsletters.com/cgi-bin13/DM/y/ekJa0PWZkg0HXE0Zlu0G1 This even covers models that are quite old: * Treo

Re: Emacs: Multiple files in one buffer?

2007-03-09 Thread Jason Stephenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'd like to do is have each function in a C source file appear in different subfiles. But I want to be able to perform text operations over the whole bunch of them... query-replace, isearch-forward, etc. I don't think it would require any extra structure in

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lussier
Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 3/9/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trac and svn are running as CGIs behind Apache. I have access to the app-specific config files but not the Apache instance that runs them. What do you mean by

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Kent Johnson
Paul Lussier wrote: Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trac and svn are running as CGIs behind Apache. I have access to the app-specific config files but not the Apache instance that runs them. What do you mean by this? How is svn run as a CGI behind Apache? My apologies. As I said, I

x86 emulator for PPC Mac OS X?

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lussier
Does anyone know a virtual environment for the PPC-based Macs? I have a PowerBook G4 that I'd like to be able to play with some stuff on. Specifically, I'd like to play around with a couple of the BSDs and possibly some different Linux distros. I found QEMU in Darwin ports, but it doesn't

Re: Linux hosting options, pros and cons

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Lussier
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My apologies. As I said, I am a linux novice. I actually don't know how svn is hosted. Django is definitely mod_python. I'm pretty sure Trac is CGI. I'm pretty sure svn is *not* hosted on my private Apache and does not have a process running under my