On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:59:13PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
On 3/25/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben, calm down.
Calm? I'm calm! I'm wicked calm!! LOOK AT ME, I'M CALM!!! WHAT
MAKES YOU THINK I'M NOT CALM??!one
To quote the Big Lebowski:
Calmer than you are.
Regards,
On 3/25/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
accidentally started.
As long as people continue to
On Mar 26, 2007, at 09:04, Tom Buskey wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
I'm building my MythTV box after having a Dish DVR-508 for about 3-
ish years. The two advantages it had were:
1)
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
Dual tuner, and prefect quality all the time. Even if you have a
stand alone tivo and you set it for the highest quality there will be
some loss.
They're
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure
out why people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
I had/have both, I was an early tivolutionary, telling people how much
it changed my life, and encouraging them to get one... and also had
Comcast's (crappy) DVR for
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
As everyone else has said, better quality. The DTiVo units stored
the digital MPEG stream right from the satellite
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for nothing
I can't get),
getting not only high quality recordings, but with commercials
already removed.
Finding new shows is trivial (thanks to many diverse sites devoted to
tracking the shows),
and with thousands of others doing
Seth Cohn writes:
These days, I do without cable OR satellite. Considering the high
prices I paid for both, I miss neither. But how do you watch TV? I
hear you asking... Antenna? No.
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only
On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a TiVo owner and former DirecTV subscriber, I couldn't figure out why
people would get a DirecTiVo instead of a stand alone.
As everyone else has said, better quality. The DTiVo units stored
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
If it's stuff that I can get OTA with an antenna (If I didn't live in
the sticks), then no, I wouldn't pay for
On 3/26/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, my next TiVo will be MythTV. Anyone got a way for them to
play
.TiVo files directly? Or script Myth to run tivodecode to convert to
mpg
before playing? :-)
Are you speaking of
On 3/26/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is, someone needs to stand up and say 'this ain't
right'.
This hearkens back to the wireless phone carrier subthread I
Do you have a source tree that has already proven
to be buildable for the machine in question,
independent of these new drivers. That would
help during triage of this problem...
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Hi,
Thank you for all your help and time. I really appreciate it.
On our server, which runs Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon
Update 8)
Lloyd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s solution works:
find -type f -name '*out*' | xargs grep -wli zip zip.txt
Question: -type f limits to regular
Kevin D. Clark writes:
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
First, it has to be a model in which there is content worth paying
for. I own a
On 3/26/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... it would be really cool if it could be recorded and put up on
GNHLUG.org for later viewing.
If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record
the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube,
for that
[off-list]
On 3/26/07, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a source tree that has already proven
to be buildable for the machine in question,
independent of these new drivers. That would
help during triage of this problem...
FYI, I think you replied to the wrong thread.
Jerry writes:
Kevin, in your solution (listed below), why are there 2 directory names are
used? Could you please explain a bit to me? Thank you.
find your-dirname1 your-dirname2 -name \*out\* \
-exec perl -e 'undef $/;
$filename=$ARGV[0];
$_=;
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I download each and every show I wish to watch ...
Just a reminder, this list is publicly archived. One may want to
avoid boasting of one's illegal activities in such a forum.
For that matter, it just occurred to me that, as the legal owner of
On 3/26/07, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: -type f limits to regular file, does the so-called regular
file strictly mean plain text files?
No. find -type f will include binary files, executables, and
such. The regular file part means that it is just a file containing
user data --
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:38:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
Lloyd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s solution works:
find -type f -name '*out*' | xargs grep -wli zip zip.txt
Question: -type f limits to regular file, does the so-called regular
file strictly mean plain text files?
It does not. regular file
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 10:16:05AM -0400, Travis Roy wrote:
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only high quality recordings,
but with commercials already removed. Finding new shows is
I'm transition to this solution, but the
Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
If it's stuff that I can get OTA with an antenna (If I didn't live in
On Mar 26, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Paul Lussier wrote:
Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content? The model could have reasonable prices and fair/non-
existent
copy-protection or whatever else you'd like.
If it's stuff that
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:30:20 -0400
Mark Ordung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
listen, you can hear him ...
http://www.twit.tv/floss
TOO cool! Thanks for the heads-up.
Linotype machines and hot lead in Milford.
-Bill
OTOH, no .ogg, only .mp3s now? For a FLOSS podcast?
TWiTs, indeed... :(
On Mar 26, 2007, at 12:08, Ben Scott wrote:
If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record
the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube,
for that matter. This was one of the explicit goals for our new
Internet server.
The size of motion video may
On 3/26/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The downside to doing a video is that people don't necessarily want
to see el-crapo video.
I dunno, that stupid Paris Hilton sex tape blew countless mail
servers out of the water, and I've shot better video with the lens cap
on. ;-)
I
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I just have to get my talk together and scripted, with about 2 weeks to go.
I usually wait until the night before, so that gives you 13 days, right? ;-)
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Replies to a number of emails:
I'm transition to this solution, but the legality of it is debatable.
For free-to-air programs, I suspect it would be very hard to make truly illegal.
For other programming, I'd still look to the Sony time-shifting
decision and ask what the difference is between
I download each and every show I wish to watch (and I want for
nothing I can't get), getting not only high quality recordings, but
with commercials already removed.
I'm curious...is there a model in which you'd consider paying for
content?
Yes, it's called Netflix.
For
I'll be giving the talk again in June in Concord, for those who can't
make it first time in April in Peterborough.
Now I just have to get my talk together and scripted, with about 2 weeks to go.
Seth
I've been playing with drupal a bit lately. I've also looked at
WordPress and Joomla. All
Seth Cohn wrote:
For free-to-air programs, I suspect it would be very hard to make truly
illegal.
Seth:
I am not a lawyer and don't believe you are, either. I'd suggest we
allow the courts to determine what is and is not legal.
For other programming, I'd still look to the Sony
I don't recall the giving it to a friend portion of the decision,
and
the slippery slope of two friends, four friends, putting it on the web
site, popping it up on BitTorrent likely crosses the line, somewhere.
I agree with this.. Even when people were saying making mix tapes for
friends
Ah, but the sites do a great job of filtering just for such a thing.
For example, [OMITTED} is a feed that doesn't list...
STOP.
You are pointing out feeds of shows whose legality is questionable at
best. This is in violation of the terms of use of this list, this group,
and likely the TOS of
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, the Bono copyright extension was a
perversion of justice, and I'd be glad to prove it to a jury in a
court of law.
As I said, *I am totally uninterested in campaign speeches*.
Let me spell this out for you:
*** DO NOT DISCUSS ILLEGAL
On 3/26/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be fair, I do think copyright issues are something that is up for
discussion. After all, it does effect Free/Open Source Software quite
a bit.
If you or anyone else wants to discuss what law or policy *should*
be, and why, go right ahead.
*** DO NOT DISCUSS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES ON THIS LIST.
I understand your point, and will comply with your wishes, despite my
_opinion_ that it's not illegal in the first place.
pissing match with the MPAA.
Since we were talking television and not ever movies, the MPAA isn't
an issue,
Travis Roy wrote:
Let's focus our discussions on Linux and Free/Open Source Software and
not on proprietary multimedia. There are plenty of other forums for that.
To be fair, I do think copyright issues are something that is up for
discussion. After all, it does effect Free/Open Source
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to cave in and give up?
Now the question is, if
Expressions of your opinion on the DMCA, the Sonny Bono Copyright Act,
your interpretation of Sony/Betamax and so forth are political and
just
lead to a lot of wasted air, imo. If you want to express those
opinions,
and I do regularly, I aim at my congresspeople and at funding the
Seth Cohn wrote:
And you've illustrated exactly the chilling effect on the flow of
information.
Yes, I have, intentionally.
When a link, NOT copyrighted material itself IN ANY WAY, but a mere
link to a website with information on it, is suddenly forbidden fruits
and banned, what is the
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:08:28 -0400
From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If someone with a digital video camera wants to volunteer to record
the meeting, we can put it online at the GNHLUG website. Or YouTube,
for that matter. This was one of the explicit goals for our new
Internet
On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, the Bono copyright extension was a
perversion of justice, and I'd be glad to prove it to a jury in a
court of law.
As I said, *I am totally uninterested in campaign speeches*.
Clarification: I am uninterested in campaign speeches
One link to just show that some court decisions seem to indicate that
lists like this one are protected from the content expressed by its
members No, I am not a lawyer, neither are you. Feel free to err
on the side of caution if you so wish, I understand that. I'm merely
pointing out that
Travis Roy wrote:
Rather scary how a mere discussion of the legalities elicts such a
furor, another chilling effect illustrated... when you can't discuss
the issues (and use illustrations such as links of the sort of things
that are under fire), what's left but to cave in and give up?
Now the
On Mar 26, 2007, at 15:12, Ben Scott wrote:
We can Open Source it and let the bazaar fix it for us. Right? ;-)
OK, I'll put the 30GB of raw .DV on liberty. ;)
-Bill
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To use a really bad analogy: If you want to argue that homicide
should not be illegal, I don't have a problem with that (as the server
operator). But I would object to anyone giving instructions on how to
kill others and get away with it, or links to same. I'd also frown
upon anyone claiming
Seth,
There is a not-so-fine line between the issues of copyright, DMCA, etc.
being discussed and the HOWTO of performing illegal acts being
discussed, particularly when people get fast and loose about saying I
did this and I used this. Even if you are careful about what you
say, others may not
[I'm spooling up Seth Cohn's posts and consolidating them into a
single reply. Order of comments has been rearranged for (supposed)
clarity. An errors in editing are mine and mine alone. Actual
results may vary. Participating locations only.]
On 3/26/07, Seth Cohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/26/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that most of us on this list will agree that the recent rulings
of our government sponsored by the recording and broadcast industries
are Draconian by any measure.
I absolutely agree, here.
You might find less agreement on how
I note you posted a link to
a comment in a blog which is a link to a different blog entry which is
a link that results in an HTTP 404 error.
heheh, I didn't notice the 404 error. Ok, citing a 404 page is pretty
poor as a defense. Never mind in my best Emily Latella voice
You were asked not
On 3/26/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now the question is, if Ben goes and edits the archives to remove the
link.. Is that destruction of evidence?
After a subpoena has been issued, I'm pretty sure it is.
Before then, I'm not sure.
Either way, I'm not going to modify the
Is anyone here running Linux on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop? I'm
seriously considering buying one and have some specific questions for
someone currently using it.
Thanks,
Scott
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Scott Garman
sgarman at iname dot com
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On 3/26/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not just do a one-time batch tivodecode of the .tivo files to
.mpeg files? That's what I did.
Anyone recommend a good mpeg editor once you have them converted so I can
take out the $#^%# commercials?
On 3/26/07, Bob King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not just do a one-time batch tivodecode of the .tivo files to
.mpeg files? That's what I did.
Anyone recommend a good mpeg editor once you have them converted so I can
take out the $#^%# commercials?
I don't have any experience with this
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:25:02 -0400
From: Jeff Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just watched Battlestar Galactica, which turned out to be the last one for
the season. The next one won't be till 200 8. Ugh!
Perhaps explaining to you my position will help cheer you
And then there are these:
Sony VGN-UX380N - http://tinyurl.com/3crnt6
OQO - http://www.oqo.com/
I walked past the Sony on a store display the other day, and spent
the next several minutes playing with it. It's a pretty impressive
little box. Still too big and heavy to be a PDA, but not by
QQ
200*8*?
On 3/26/07, Jeff Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just watched Battlestar Galactica, which turned out to be the last one for
the season. The next one won't be till 200 8. Ugh! The networks are giving
me less and less reason to watch this stuff when it's aired (or in my case,
I figure this might be of interest to the general readership, so I'm
repeating it here. Please send replies to the original poster's
address, given below. I am not endorsing the message in any way.
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From: Tech Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 26, 2007
I found one several years ago, but dropped off after long stretches
of off-topic posts. I think I found a new one last year that includes
a digest mode, but lately it's been flooded about IP and other issues that
are outside of Linux and even the digests are getting annoying. Ah well,
I have the
On 3/26/07, Scott Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone here running Linux on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop?
We've got some D620's at work, but they're running that other OS.
What do you want to know? I can boot one to a distro CD of your
choice and run some commands if you like, or just
From: Ric Werme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:02:00 -0400 (EDT)
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
of off-topic posts. I think I found a new one last year that includes
a digest mode, but lately it's been flooded about IP and other issues that
are outside of Linux and even the digests
Scott,
I got a few responses and cut and paste them into this response, see in
line below (again, these are not from me but from folks at Oracle who
are using D620s with Linux):
Good luck!
Rich
Scott Garman wrote:
Richard Soule wrote:
Oracle uses the Dell Latitude D620 laptop internally.
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