Re: Android questions

2010-03-06 Thread Jerry Feldman
I have KeepPass on the BB, but it caused the BlackBerry desktop to crash. Essentially, I will be using that for password stuff and other sensitive information, but initially the task is to preserve my Memo Pad and be able to use it. And Evernote does have a BlackBerry, Android, Windows, and Web

Re: Interesting article

2010-03-06 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 03/05/2010 05:00 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I was looking into what it would take in the way of patent royalties to put Android onto the Openmoko phone. It was a mess, even just paying the royalties on a hardware basis. But people can not afford to pay the royalties on free CDs that

Re: Linux for cloud computing: Request for Input

2010-03-06 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 03/05/2010 03:52 PM, Tom Buskey wrote: In this case, because the ZFS license isn't compatible with the GPL in the Linux kernel. And there's no patent grant for re-implementations (you have to use the CDDL code to get patent grants). Without patent problems, I'm confident it would have

Re: pvcreate to raid1 fails

2010-03-06 Thread Jerry Feldman
I've finally done a successful pvcreate. First I booted into Knoppix 6.2.1, started raid1, pvcreate failed, stopped mdadm and did a pvcreate on /dev/sdc2. Booted back into Fedora, and I have successfully done a vgextend to /dev/md1, and am now moving the extents over. Once I have everything moved,

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia... (was: Interesting article)

2010-03-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Apple and Microsoft have paid up royalties on these things ... ... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all of the stuff necessary to do DVD-authoring!? While I've never touched

Re: Interesting article

2010-03-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: Not one Linux distro I've seen does a convincing job with consumer media, an absolutely basic requirement, and something we ought to be able to get right. Well, please ask the DVD people not to used royalty bearing patents in

DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: I thought that this project added to DECnet's life, and that DEC/Compaq/HP would have to be crazy to object. ... http://www.csamuel.org/2010/02/19/decnet-now-orphaned-in-the-linux-kernel-for-2-6-33 That seems more like it

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread David Hardy
Ben said this: ... trying to get everyone's bridges and routers configured to properly support IPX, NetBEUI, AppleTalk, DECnet, etc., etc., etc. My apologies to maddog and other ex-DECers, but I say good riddance. Being of Ancient Daze myself, and a former DECoid, I well remember having to

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Ben, That seems more like it was due to a total lack of interest. Could it simply be that most everyone has moved to Internet Protocol now? I agree to a point that the current orphaning of the code in the kernel is probably due to a total lack of interest, and that there is a good possibility

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Ben, One other comment: I think widespread adoption of IP has tended to eliminate less-used network transports. Why go with something weird, proprietary, and expensive when you could go with what everybody is using, for free? I agree. But I also remember that in 1984 DEC was still waiting for

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: But in walking back to my house from breakfast today, it occurred to me that the average user of DECnet Linux probably does not read the DECnet Linux mailing lists. You think neither of them are subscribed? ;-)

Re: Interesting article

2010-03-06 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Again, I don't have a good answer, but that doesn't mean the problem goes away. Linux still sucks. Just to be clear, in this particular case any freely distributable piece of code that relies on royalty bearing codecs sucks. That includes BSD, Hurd, Minux, Android, MeeGO, etc. md

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I've already heard of people running an emulator on top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application alive. One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and the professors (knowing I had worked for DEC) offered to show me an ancient PDP-11 running RSX-11

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for cloud computing)

2010-03-06 Thread David Hardy
Oh, does THAT bring back the golden oldie memories! My first-ever paid IT gig was working with, yes, a PDP-11 running RSX-11 (for CAD/CAM engineering apps) and a microVAX running, I think, VAX/VMS 3.5. Then, off to DEC itself, in Marlborough and The Mill. No Linux for me until twelve years

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia...

2010-03-06 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Apple and Microsoft have paid up royalties on these things ... ... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all of the stuff necessary to do