On 3/14/06, Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll leave it to others to opine which language is best to start with.There seem to be lots of opinions.But, one thing that I find to bereally weird are CS programs that start with Java but never teach C!Ever!I have a good friend who went through
Tom Buskey writes:
Some would find a CS program that started with C and never taught Pascal to
be odd.
My formal CS education started with ML, went to LISP, then Modula-2,
and then C.
We could quibble over all of the details of CS curriculum, but I just
find a program that never really
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 8:42 am, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
Tom Buskey writes:
Some would find a CS program that started with C and never taught
Pascal to be odd.
My formal CS education started with ML, went to LISP, then Modula-2,
and then C.
We could quibble over all of the details of CS
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:27 -0500, Tom Buskey wrote:
On 3/14/06, Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll leave it to others to opine which language is best to
start with.
There seem to be lots of opinions. But, one thing that I find
to be
I think the first language should be a bondage-and-discipline type
like Pascal or (even better!) Modula-2. Second C, third and
absolutely essential (in my mind) is an assembly language. I think
programmers who understand how the machine works underneath (and have
been forced to think like one at
Python writes:
I'm a Python nut, so you may want to take this with a grain of salt, but
I believe that Python is becoming the language of choice for
Astronomers, Geographers, Genomeers, etc who need to do some
programming as part of their profession, but do not see themselves as
[that's what I get for sending a message whilst running a test]
I'm a Perl nut, so you may want to take this with a grain of salt, but
I believe that Perl is becoming the language of choice for
Astronomers, Geographers, Genomeers, etc who need to do some
programming as part of their
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:32 -0500, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
[that's what I get for sending a message whilst running a test]
It was funnier the first way.
I'm a Perl nut, so you may want to take this with a grain of salt, but
I believe that Perl is becoming the language of choice for
On 3/15/06, Python [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Astronomers (who I admittedly met at a Python conference) who said that
Python had replaced Forth as the language of choice.
I bet all the non-astronomers at that Python conference also said
Python was a language of choice. ;-)
This is not meant
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From: Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Acceptance of OpenOffice.org (was Re: Gov't , economics and
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On Mar 13, 2006, at 15:18, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
So, although most of the computer related classes - Desktop Publishing,
Word Processing, etc. - were taught on relatively modern machines
running a recent windows version, the Computer Science courses were
taught on the oldest computers in
Bill McGonigle writes:
My high school taught Pascal on Z/80 machines running CPM when those
were 'out of date'. I think they'd still be fine for learning
Pascal.
My high school math teacher took me aside on the first day of computer
class and told me that he didn't know anything about
Kuni Tetsu wrote:
The biggest road block I have seen to the acceptance of Open Office is the fact
that they do not have the same menues as the products they are trying to
supplant.
Yesterday, my ten year old daughter wanted to use the computer that has
OpenOffice.org. When I asked why she
So I'm thinking that maybe successful acceptance of OpenOffice.org requires
us getting it into the school systems.
I agree completely. And a complicating factor is that many computer
teachers aren't really teaching computer sci or generic computing concepts,
but instead they're teaching
On Monday 13 March 2006 11:28 am, Randy Edwards wrote:
So I'm thinking that maybe successful acceptance of OpenOffice.org
requires us getting it into the school systems.
I agree completely. And a complicating factor is that many computer
teachers aren't really teaching computer sci or
Having recently finished with school myself, I can tell you first hand
that many computer courses are focused around usage of certain
applications rather than a more general understanding of concepts. I
agree completely that many teachers are used to their Microsoft products
and don't know
When I was in college for my CAD course I had to use:Calma - VMSIDEAS - VMCAutoCAD - PCVersaCAD - PCCADkey - PCCADC - Zenith Z100Late 80s when there were multiple choices. Now I'd imagine seeing AutoCAD, Cadence, Mentor Graphics, Pro/E, (are those just EDA?)
It was an interesting introduction. I
Jerry Feldman wrote:
There is a lot to be said for training elementary, middle and high
school kids to use some of the many tools that they have available, and I'm
not adverse to training them on how to use MS Office. But, when they call a
class computer science they should teach computer
Tom Buskey wrote:
When I was in college for my CAD course I had to use:
Calma - VMS
IDEAS - VMC
AutoCAD - PC
VersaCAD - PC
CADkey - PC
CADC - Zenith Z100
Late 80s when there were multiple choices. Now I'd imagine seeing
AutoCAD, Cadence, Mentor Graphics, Pro/E, (are those just EDA?)
A
Christopher Schmidt wrote:
As a counter to this:
At the high school level, typically computer science is a prep course
for the Computer Science A or AB test.
(Apologies ahead of time for anyone I may have made to feel old due to
the years listed in this post.)
Thanks, sonny, for the
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:47:59PM -0500, Dan Jenkins wrote:
I was talking to someone (a middle-school teacher) at a party over the
holidays who mentioned his school's computer science class. I was
curious what programming languages they taught. He assured me that they
didn't allow hacking
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:09:33PM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote:
About 10 years ago, home computers were pretty much beyond the reach of most
public school teachers. It has only been since then that many have been
able to afford them. Additionally, it is difficult for school systems to
keep
On Monday 13 March 2006 2:47 pm, Dan Jenkins wrote:
I was talking to someone (a middle-school teacher) at a party over the
holidays who mentioned his school's computer science class. I was
curious what programming languages they taught. He assured me that they
didn't allow hacking at all.
Having recently finished with school myself, I can tell you first hand
that many computer courses are focused around usage of certain
applications rather than a more general understanding of concepts.
Just for the record, when I said computer science this is exactly what I
was referring
On Monday 13 March 2006 1:37 pm, Randy Edwards wrote:
Just for the record, when I said computer science this is exactly
what I was referring to. Far too often I've seen classes that are
devolved to the point to where they are little more than memorization
exercises for MS Office. That
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