[revisiting an old issue]
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
Reading elsewhere, it would appear Canonical is hosting a repository
for Adobe.
I don't think this was ever really addressed on-list, so: I did find
the APT repository which contains
Here's the shell script I just threw together to keep my system
current with whatever Adobe's offering. Silent unless trouble or
update, so suitable for a cron job. Not really tested much yet. :)
http://pastebin.com/eLfi9SNV
-- Ben
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Er, isn't the likely effect of
bigots..who crawl out of the woodwork..
to hurt people's feelings?
-Bill
You never win an argument until they attack your person.
--Nassim Nicholas Taleb, The Bed of Procustes, p11
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On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Bill Sconce sco...@in-spec-inc.com wrote:
Er, isn't the likely effect of
bigots..who crawl out of the woodwork..
to hurt people's feelings?
Well, if said bigots have their feelings hurt, I'm okay with that.
I've been listening to them spout the same
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote:
It's nice/sad to see Debian getting the symptoms of RPM hell that people
always bring up.
Debian -- or rather, dpkg/APT -- has always had the exact same
behavior as RPM/YUM,
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
It's nice/sad to see Debian getting the symptoms of RPM hell that people
always bring up.
Debian -- or rather, dpkg/APT -- has always had the exact same
behavior as RPM/YUM, it's just Debian bigots (who crawl
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
I see that they have an apt: URL in use `for Ubuntu 9.04+' ...
Where's this you see that? :)
Ah, found it. If one uses the Get Flash web page, APT shows up
in the Versions drop down list. And then it produces
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:
I wish I could. I sincerely wish I could. Alas, I cannot escape
from Flash -- too many things I need to use to conduct the business of
my life depend on Flash, much to my disgust. :-(
I've been hoping that
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
IANAL, but I believe that's an open question. It prolly doesn't
comply with the license document, but license documents do not have
the force of law (much to the dislike of software publishers
everywhere). I
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
Hmm again. Okay, so I've just found something which makes me even
less thrilled with Debian's approach (although this may be a new thing
Adobe is doing so not really Debian's fault). Anyway, today at least,
Adobe provides a .deb package:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
Anyway, today at least, Adobe provides a .deb package:
But there you've still got the `doesn't automatically update via APT'
situation, don't you ...
Yup, yup. It's just cleaner than the fire and forget
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
Adobe provides a .deb package:
Seems to install fine. I'll test it when I get back to my X console
at home. :)
For those playing along at home: It works. :)
-- Ben
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
What's wrong with the `flashplugin-nonfree' package that Debian has
in lenny-backports?
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
They conveniently kept a
current release
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote:
If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in
/var/cache/apt/archives/
Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks
there are unsolved dependencies.
-- Ben
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Roger H. Goun ro...@bcah.com wrote:
Is the source package available? If so, you could remove the errant
dependencies from the control file and rebuild the .deb.
The reason I liked d-m.org's packaging of Flash was that it gave me
a proper package that was
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote:
If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in
/var/cache/apt/archives/
Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the
after a unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid
lunch, and a pair of rubber bands
I would love to hear more about this at the upcoming ManchLUG meeting.
I knew there was a reason for avoiding rubber bands.
md
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
after a unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid
lunch, and a pair of rubber bands
I would love to hear more about this at the upcoming ManchLUG meeting.
I knew there was a reason for avoiding rubber
If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in
/var/cache/apt/archives/
Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks
there are unsolved dependencies.
You should be able to pull an inventory from any repo mentioned in your
Escaping from Dependency Hell sometimes involves gymnastics that
rival BistroMathics in complexity...
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Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
What's wrong with the `flashplugin-nonfree' package that Debian has
in lenny-backports?
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote:
It's nice/sad to see Debian getting the symptoms of RPM hell that people
always bring up.
Debian -- or rather, dpkg/APT -- has always had the exact same
behavior as RPM/YUM, it's just Debian bigots (who crawl out of the
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote:
If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in
/var/cache/apt/archives/
Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks
there
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
I don't even understand how/why the word conveniently is supposed
to apply, here--how do you, as an end user, even see any difference?
The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer.
d-m.org
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
(1) Updates work automatically, like every other managed package on
the system.
P.S.: Given Flash's history of frequent security vulnerabilities and
consequence fix releases, this is pretty significant.
-- Ben
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
I don't even understand how/why the word conveniently is supposed
to apply, here--how do you, as an end user, even see any difference?
The Debian package
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer.
d-m.org offered a proper packaging of the installed files.
I'd go for that, but... is that even *legal*? In the USA?
IANAL, but I believe that's
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer.
d-m.org offered a proper packaging of the installed files.
I'd go for that, but... is that
Hey list,
Anyone know of a way to have apt-get (Debian) ignore dependencies
and download the frelling package anyway?
I've recently reinstalled Debian 5.0 lenny on my PC (after a
unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid lunch, and
a pair of rubber bands). However, in the
I am currently running the Flash 10.2 beta on my system right now.
I'm not sure how bleeding edge you want to get but this one has
hardware acceleration in it if your hardware supports it. I just grab
it from Adobe and put it in my plugins folder. Flash is still pretty
bad though.
I don't know that you actually can. Because of apt-get's nature as a
package manager, its whole job is to ensure that things work correctly and
that everything is installed that needs to be for the package you are
needing.
On the other hand, if you can do a wget of the .deb file for the app you
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Stanyan ryan.stan...@gmail.comwrote:
Also, I think you can force apt to install a package by running apt-
get -f install.
-f will fix stuff, like getting dependences from a failed dpkg -i and
finishing the install, but won't force an install of a
Is the source package available? If so, you could remove the errant
dependencies from the control file and rebuild the .deb.
-- Roger
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Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes:
Hey list,
I've recently reinstalled Debian 5.0 lenny on my PC (after a
unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid lunch, and
a pair of rubber bands). However, in the meantime, Debian has
released squeeze as stable. In the
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