Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:
 ... candidates for engineering jobs will show up
 with _no portfolio_ (especially when we're talking about software jobs:

  Most of what I've done is work-for-hire, not owned by me, and under
37 levels of NDA.

 ... people on the other side of the interview-process often
 have no idea what to do when a candidate does have a portfolio of work
 available for review.

  Because they're used to the above.

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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-10 Thread Bruce Dawson
Amen!

On 08/10/2015 01:00 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 On 2015-07-31 18:04, Bill Freeman wrote:
 ...

 While I'm often amazed that candidates for engineering jobs will show 
 up with _no portfolio_ (especially when we're talking about software 
 jobs: mechanical engineers, for example, may have a legitimate case 
 that it's hard to get personal access to the tools they'd need to 
 build a personal portfolio; but the tools required to develop 
 software?); I'm even more amazed that people on the other side of the 
 interview-process often have no idea what to do when a candidate does 
 have a portfolio of work available for review.
 Before that, unless you're in a field where you can publish while doing
 graduate work (it's own form of internship), you have to take low paying,
 crummy jobs.  In some fields they're called interships.
 It's the non-paying ones that are real scams.
 That was one of the things that soured me on college: not only was the 
 experience
 non-paying, they were actually _charging me_; and the `experience' part of the
 experience wasn't all that great, either. And I had to buy my own books.
 And I had to buy my own equipment. And the amount of _time_ that it seemed
 to require if I actually wanted to be good at `being a student' was crazy.

 ...

 (I retrospect, the last time I was talking to a recruiter
   who said I'd have to move to CA even if I was going to  end up
   in the company's Boston office, I guess I should tried proposing:
   how about I just stay in NH, I do CA software work on the CA schedule,
   and you get to pay me like I work in MA?).
And just to show you how ego-centric the field was/is, most recruiters 
will actually ding you for taking that attitude!

--Bruce
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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-10 Thread Bill Freeman
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@hackerposse.com
 wrote:
...


 While I'm often amazed that candidates for engineering jobs will show up
 with _no portfolio_ (especially when we're talking about software jobs:
 mechanical engineers, for example, may have a legitimate case that it's
 hard to get personal access to the tools they'd need to build a personal
 portfolio; but the tools required to develop software?); I'm even more
 amazed that people on the other side of the interview-process often
 have no idea what to do when a candidate does have a portfolio of work
 available for review.


I can see that criticism for someone trying to break into an area.  But I
come from a time when your employer owned your technical output.  Not just
work on the project during work hours, but work done on your own time
(there is no own time for a salaried employee) on anything vaguely in your
field.  For most of my life the code that I've written (and the hardware
that I've designed has been copyright property of my employer, and not
permitted to be shown outside the company.  Web development was a great
boon to me since I could point to some of the sites I'd developed, since
their URLs were public.

When on the other side of the table, I've settled for giving unusual
problems, to see how the person thinks.  I've interviewed lots of folks
with a portfolio who apparently were led by the hand, because they can't
tell me how it works, or can't show me how it would be modified to do X.


 That was one of the things that soured me on college: not only was the
 experience
 non-paying, they were actually _charging me_; and the `experience' part of
 the
 experience wasn't all that great, either. And I had to buy my own books.
 And I had to buy my own equipment. And the amount of _time_ that it seemed
 to require if I actually wanted to be good at `being a student' was crazy.


Again, I'm fortunate enough to have been in college before the internship
craze.  There were a very few students who had internships, unpaid, but
they were closer to research assistance positions, just not with a
university lab.  (My friend who, in the dead of night, got to answer a
question about the Apollo guidance system on the circuit for one of the
pre-landing  flights, probably would not trade that experience for even a
large sum of money, and did, in fact lear plenty.)


 And I guess that's part of the problem that I was trying to solve, here:
 it's late enough in intern-season that the bright, enthusiastic kids who
 could actually manage to be `good students' while simultaneously being
 good _learners_ appear to have mostly already settled into internships;
 and I was expecting--or at least hoping--that there are some good learners
 and do-ers who basically aren't enough like `good students' to have
 bothered to go looking for the internships that they're supposed to
 (or who aren't doing internships because they're still in high school
  and high-school kids don't get directed to do internships like
  college kids do); or who haven't been snapped up by traditionally-minded
 organisations who just want to count years-of-college + GPA.


And I'd like to point out that in software development the requirement to
be a good learner never goes away.  Nothing stays the same.  It's always
funny to see the job requirements for 5 years experience with a technologh
that's 2 years old.


 There's certainly a selfish aspect to this--if only that we're a really
 small team, and there's only so much `drag' we can afford. But,
 on the giving hand, I do actually think the `small team doing big things'
 scenario has a lot of pedagogical merit for someone who's up to it.


Small teams are great.  You might get lucky, but in general, you don't get
what you don't pay for (the converse not, in general being true).  If you
don't find satisfactory candidate, you may want to consider paying for a
good learner with more experience.  The time from drag to thrust will
probably be quite small.


  The real concern for your son is how the outsourcing trend going to play
 out.
  You can't live here and compete with those salaries.

 And yet people live in Silicon Valley. That should make the salaries
 for people telecommuting from NH for CA work pretty competitive,
 shouldn't it?


I guess.  I can appreciate the anti-telecommute policies because I can't
work effectively at home, without interaction.  There's also probably a
rock and a hard place problem for employers in that there may be a
regulatory difficulty in paying different amounts for the same work
depending on where the employee lives.  They get away with it for
outsourcing because those people aren't employees.  Even for in country,
it's much easier for a 65 year old to find good paying consulting work than
mediocre regular employment.  I've been lucky to prove myself and be taken
on as a regular employee at a good salary.

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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-10 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
On 2015-07-31 18:04, Bill Freeman wrote:
 Oh, but first are you experienced?  Have you ever been experienced?
 (Jimi Hendrix, for the young amongst you)
 
 To get good jobs, you need things on your resume.


Things, yes

And many employers seem to like things to be a list of _places_
where you've been employed previously.

While I'm often amazed that candidates for engineering jobs will show up
with _no portfolio_ (especially when we're talking about software jobs:
mechanical engineers, for example, may have a legitimate case that it's
hard to get personal access to the tools they'd need to build a personal
portfolio; but the tools required to develop software?); I'm even more
amazed that people on the other side of the interview-process often
have no idea what to do when a candidate does have a portfolio of work
available for review.

 Before that, unless you're in a field where you can publish while doing
 graduate work (it's own form of internship), you have to take low paying,
 crummy jobs.  In some fields they're called interships.
 It's the non-paying ones that are real scams.

That was one of the things that soured me on college: not only was the 
experience
non-paying, they were actually _charging me_; and the `experience' part of the
experience wasn't all that great, either. And I had to buy my own books.
And I had to buy my own equipment. And the amount of _time_ that it seemed
to require if I actually wanted to be good at `being a student' was crazy.

And I guess that's part of the problem that I was trying to solve, here:
it's late enough in intern-season that the bright, enthusiastic kids who
could actually manage to be `good students' while simultaneously being
good _learners_ appear to have mostly already settled into internships;
and I was expecting--or at least hoping--that there are some good learners
and do-ers who basically aren't enough like `good students' to have
bothered to go looking for the internships that they're supposed to
(or who aren't doing internships because they're still in high school
 and high-school kids don't get directed to do internships like
 college kids do); or who haven't been snapped up by traditionally-minded
organisations who just want to count years-of-college + GPA.

There's certainly a selfish aspect to this--if only that we're a really
small team, and there's only so much `drag' we can afford. But,
on the giving hand, I do actually think the `small team doing big things'
scenario has a lot of pedagogical merit for someone who's up to it.

 The real concern for your son is how the outsourcing trend going to play out. 
 You can't live here and compete with those salaries.

And yet people live in Silicon Valley. That should make the salaries
for people telecommuting from NH for CA work pretty competitive,
shouldn't it?

(I retrospect, the last time I was talking to a recruiter
 who said I'd have to move to CA even if I was going to  end up
 in the company's Boston office, I guess I should tried proposing:
 how about I just stay in NH, I do CA software work on the CA schedule,
 and you get to pay me like I work in MA?).

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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-01 Thread Paul Beaudet
By the looks of it I would assume Joshua's company is offering paid work.
That type of, even green talent is fairly sought after. Plus unpaid is
actually
very legally sketchy ground when it renders something useful to the
offering
company.

In response to Greg's humorous comment. I recently got an unpaid
proposition like that.
Guess its understandable when the entrepreneur is one broke person trying
to scrap something
out of nothing (which it is in the case of my offer).
Maybe I'm only sympathetic because been that person myself.
However I feel like in our industry if one has put their time in they
 likely have something to offer beyond a reference or a potential cut of
kickstarter in return.

For example I'm looking for a couple of details that would be nice (but not
necessary)
to help my open source project and maybe my business.
 **The project is a chorded keyer that looks to ease the learning curve of
typing.
Looking for
 --- PCB design files
 --- Case Design files (maybe make some prints given access to an
affordable option)
 --- Assistance with a prototype type correction system (node or python)
 --- Help getting into OpenCV, webRTC, Sockets.io (or other interest)
Offering
 --- Assistance with a organizing and structuring a complex arduino or like
embedded project
  into manageable asynchronous pieces.
 --- Help getting into to C/C++, Python, Node, Express.js, MongoDB,
 --- Written help with presenting your project to others, like scripting a
video

Maybe that example is less hypothetical than I had intended...
Sorry for the digression Joshua,

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
g...@freephile.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
 g...@freephile.com wrote:

 Is this an unpaid internship?


  If so, I'm wondering how different this is compared to:

 I'm looking for a musician with some real experience, preferably with
 record deals and verifiable quality to play at my bbq.
 Ideally will also assist with grilling and cleanup.
 Experience mixing drinks a plus.
 Entertaining personality is a must.
 Please provide own transportation, setup and sound equipment.
 This is just a one-day event, and all my friends will be there so please
 be punctual.
 Thanks, we'll give you good references and since I have a lot of friends,
 you might get some work out of it.  And who knows, I could always throw
 some more parties in the future so there's a lot in it for you.

 ps. this is not a personal attack, I'm seriously wondering if this is what
 current CS grads have to look forward to.  My High School son is working
 right now for $9/hr and I have to give him good advice on what career path
 to follow.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen 
 roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that
 includes:

 * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations
 people,
   and developers to help solve issues in the application,
 network,
   and operating environments.

 * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
   the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
   the real world, and in simulation) from information in
 specifications,
   feature descriptions, or bug-reports.

 * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
   testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
   retest, performance monitoring and usability

 * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
   UI, or communication protocol

 * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
   description within the code base using the database, UI, or
   communication protocol

 * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
   our issue-tracker

 * Assisting in system set-up and software installation

 * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
   of the software production environments

 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).

 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
 hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
 associated with a 

Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-08-01 Thread Dan Garthwaite
Forwarded to a local head of a first robotics team.
On Aug 1, 2015 10:23 AM, Paul Beaudet inof...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the looks of it I would assume Joshua's company is offering paid work.
 That type of, even green talent is fairly sought after. Plus unpaid is
 actually
 very legally sketchy ground when it renders something useful to the
 offering
 company.

 In response to Greg's humorous comment. I recently got an unpaid
 proposition like that.
 Guess its understandable when the entrepreneur is one broke person trying
 to scrap something
 out of nothing (which it is in the case of my offer).
 Maybe I'm only sympathetic because been that person myself.
 However I feel like in our industry if one has put their time in they
  likely have something to offer beyond a reference or a potential cut of
 kickstarter in return.

 For example I'm looking for a couple of details that would be nice (but
 not necessary)
 to help my open source project and maybe my business.
  **The project is a chorded keyer that looks to ease the learning curve of
 typing.
 Looking for
  --- PCB design files
  --- Case Design files (maybe make some prints given access to an
 affordable option)
  --- Assistance with a prototype type correction system (node or python)
  --- Help getting into OpenCV, webRTC, Sockets.io (or other interest)
 Offering
  --- Assistance with a organizing and structuring a complex arduino or
 like embedded project
   into manageable asynchronous pieces.
  --- Help getting into to C/C++, Python, Node, Express.js, MongoDB,
  --- Written help with presenting your project to others, like scripting a
 video

 Maybe that example is less hypothetical than I had intended...
 Sorry for the digression Joshua,

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
 g...@freephile.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
 g...@freephile.com wrote:

 Is this an unpaid internship?


  If so, I'm wondering how different this is compared to:

 I'm looking for a musician with some real experience, preferably with
 record deals and verifiable quality to play at my bbq.
 Ideally will also assist with grilling and cleanup.
 Experience mixing drinks a plus.
 Entertaining personality is a must.
 Please provide own transportation, setup and sound equipment.
 This is just a one-day event, and all my friends will be there so please
 be punctual.
 Thanks, we'll give you good references and since I have a lot of friends,
 you might get some work out of it.  And who knows, I could always throw
 some more parties in the future so there's a lot in it for you.

 ps. this is not a personal attack, I'm seriously wondering if this is
 what current CS grads have to look forward to.  My High School son is
 working right now for $9/hr and I have to give him good advice on what
 career path to follow.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen 
 roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience
 that includes:

 * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations
 people,
   and developers to help solve issues in the application,
 network,
   and operating environments.

 * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
   the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
   the real world, and in simulation) from information in
 specifications,
   feature descriptions, or bug-reports.

 * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
   testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
   retest, performance monitoring and usability

 * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
   UI, or communication protocol

 * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
   description within the code base using the database, UI, or
   communication protocol

 * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
   our issue-tracker

 * Assisting in system set-up and software installation

 * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
   of the software production environments

 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).

 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more 

Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-31 Thread Ric Werme

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) g...@freephile.com 
wrote:
 Is this an unpaid internship?

 If so, I'm wondering how different this is compared to:

 ...

 ps. this is not a personal attack, I'm seriously wondering if this is
 what current CS grads have to look forward to.  My High School son is
 working right now for $9/hr and I have to give him good advice on what
 career path to follow.

I'm in Oracle's cluster file system group, formed largely from people
laid off by HP from the Tru64 UNIX group.

We've hired several recent college grads.  Oracle seems to treat them
pretty well - trip to HQ, meet some of the top-level exec, monthly lunch
with the local other college hires (where new seems to be within the
last three years or so).

We've generally hired people with a masters degree, generally from big
name schools (I guess that's worth something).  Brown Univ has a decent
OS curriculum, so it's a good place to get larval OS types.

Weird dealing with people who don't know of (not just have never used)
core memory, Martin Gardner's Mathematical Games, etc.  It's also
interesting seeing them get up to speed - they actually do.  Yay for
youthful exuberance.

As for career paths, before I went to college, Dad made a spreadsheet
(on graph paper) showing the cost of school and income for both a
EE and an electrician.  It took many years to catch up to the
electrician, and I imagine it takes many more years now given the
cost of college.

That's not too bad a career - cleaner than being a plumber, more
comfortable than being a HVAC guy roasting on the asphalt roof replacing
a burned out motor, and the job generally doesn't follow you home.

  -Ric
-- 
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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-31 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Also: be quick, please :)

We've finally managed to get a few candidates that even seemed worth
bringing in for interviews, and boss is eager to accept _someone_

I'd really prefer to just get something before the weekend is out--
any sort of rough description of who people are and some things
they have done or are doing--rather than potentially lose out
on bringing the right one in because an `acceptable' level of
candidate showed up while someone better was polishing a resume.


On 2015-07-31 01:15, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 Guys,
 
 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's 
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that 
 includes:
 
   * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations people,
 and developers to help solve issues in the application, network,
 and operating environments.
 
   * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
 the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
 the real world, and in simulation) from information in specifications,
 feature descriptions, or bug-reports.
 
   * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
 testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
 retest, performance monitoring and usability
 
   * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
 UI, or communication protocol
 
   * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
 description within the code base using the database, UI, or
 communication protocol
 
   * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
 our issue-tracker
 
   * Assisting in system set-up and software installation
 
   * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
 of the software production environments
 
 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).
 
 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
 hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
 associated with a github/launchpad/ohloh/openhub/sourceforge/whatever
 account that they could show along with trails through mailing lists
 and public bug-trackers..., or who _is_ such a person themselves.
 
 I'd like to hear from those people.
 
 Experience with C++ and Python are pluses (and if you're savvy enough
 to grok things metaclasses, that's probably a big plus). If you know
 C# or Java, that's OK too. You'll need to have some background
 somewhere in there.
 
 Knowing SQL is a plus.
 
 If you've ever programmed with a video game engine, that's a plus.
 
 Understanding of network architectures and how Wi-Fi actually works
 is a plus.
 

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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-31 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
On 2015-07-31 15:17, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote:
 Is this an unpaid internship?

No, I believe we're planning on paying them something.

How much? I'm not sure, but we're really not going for slave labour.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@hackerposse.com
 mailto:roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's 
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that
 includes:
 
 * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations 
 people,
   and developers to help solve issues in the application, network,
   and operating environments.
 
 * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
   the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
   the real world, and in simulation) from information in 
 specifications,
   feature descriptions, or bug-reports.
 
 * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
   testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
   retest, performance monitoring and usability
 
 * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
   UI, or communication protocol
 
 * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
   description within the code base using the database, UI, or
   communication protocol
 
 * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
   our issue-tracker
 
 * Assisting in system set-up and software installation
 
 * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
   of the software production environments
 
 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).
 
 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
 hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
 associated with a github/launchpad/ohloh/openhub/sourceforge/whatever
 account that they could show along with trails through mailing lists
 and public bug-trackers..., or who _is_ such a person themselves.
 
 I'd like to hear from those people.
 
 Experience with C++ and Python are pluses (and if you're savvy enough
 to grok things metaclasses, that's probably a big plus). If you know
 C# or Java, that's OK too. You'll need to have some background
 somewhere in there.
 
 Knowing SQL is a plus.
 
 If you've ever programmed with a video game engine, that's a plus.
 
 Understanding of network architectures and how Wi-Fi actually works
 is a plus.
 
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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-31 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
g...@freephile.com wrote:

 Is this an unpaid internship?


 If so, I'm wondering how different this is compared to:

I'm looking for a musician with some real experience, preferably with
record deals and verifiable quality to play at my bbq.
Ideally will also assist with grilling and cleanup.
Experience mixing drinks a plus.
Entertaining personality is a must.
Please provide own transportation, setup and sound equipment.
This is just a one-day event, and all my friends will be there so please be
punctual.
Thanks, we'll give you good references and since I have a lot of friends,
you might get some work out of it.  And who knows, I could always throw
some more parties in the future so there's a lot in it for you.

ps. this is not a personal attack, I'm seriously wondering if this is what
current CS grads have to look forward to.  My High School son is working
right now for $9/hr and I have to give him good advice on what career path
to follow.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen 
 roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that
 includes:

 * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations
 people,
   and developers to help solve issues in the application, network,
   and operating environments.

 * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
   the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
   the real world, and in simulation) from information in
 specifications,
   feature descriptions, or bug-reports.

 * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
   testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
   retest, performance monitoring and usability

 * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
   UI, or communication protocol

 * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
   description within the code base using the database, UI, or
   communication protocol

 * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
   our issue-tracker

 * Assisting in system set-up and software installation

 * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
   of the software production environments

 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).

 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
 hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
 associated with a github/launchpad/ohloh/openhub/sourceforge/whatever
 account that they could show along with trails through mailing lists
 and public bug-trackers..., or who _is_ such a person themselves.

 I'd like to hear from those people.

 Experience with C++ and Python are pluses (and if you're savvy enough
 to grok things metaclasses, that's probably a big plus). If you know
 C# or Java, that's OK too. You'll need to have some background
 somewhere in there.

 Knowing SQL is a plus.

 If you've ever programmed with a video game engine, that's a plus.

 Understanding of network architectures and how Wi-Fi actually works
 is a plus.

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Re: Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-31 Thread Bill Freeman
Oh, but first are you experienced?  Have you ever been experienced?
(Jimi Hendrix, for the young amongst you)

To get good jobs, you need things on your resume.  Before that, unless
you're in a field where you can publish while doing graduate work (it's own
form of internship), you have to take low paying, crummy jobs.  In some
fields they're called interships.  It's the non-paying ones that are real
scams.

The real concern for your son is how the outsourcing trend going to play
out.  You can't live here and compete with those salaries.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
g...@freephile.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) 
 g...@freephile.com wrote:

 Is this an unpaid internship?


  If so, I'm wondering how different this is compared to:

 I'm looking for a musician with some real experience, preferably with
 record deals and verifiable quality to play at my bbq.
 Ideally will also assist with grilling and cleanup.
 Experience mixing drinks a plus.
 Entertaining personality is a must.
 Please provide own transportation, setup and sound equipment.
 This is just a one-day event, and all my friends will be there so please
 be punctual.
 Thanks, we'll give you good references and since I have a lot of friends,
 you might get some work out of it.  And who knows, I could always throw
 some more parties in the future so there's a lot in it for you.

 ps. this is not a personal attack, I'm seriously wondering if this is what
 current CS grads have to look forward to.  My High School son is working
 right now for $9/hr and I have to give him good advice on what career path
 to follow.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen 
 roz...@hackerposse.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's
 Linux-powered
 autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
 http://www.harvestai.com
 is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that
 includes:

 * Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations
 people,
   and developers to help solve issues in the application,
 network,
   and operating environments.

 * Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
   the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
   the real world, and in simulation) from information in
 specifications,
   feature descriptions, or bug-reports.

 * Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
   testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
   retest, performance monitoring and usability

 * Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
   UI, or communication protocol

 * Implementing a software solution from a requirement
   description within the code base using the database, UI, or
   communication protocol

 * Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
   our issue-tracker

 * Assisting in system set-up and software installation

 * Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
   of the software production environments

 We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).

 We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
 good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
 recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
 to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
 we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
 someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
 (or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
 the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
 hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
 associated with a github/launchpad/ohloh/openhub/sourceforge/whatever
 account that they could show along with trails through mailing lists
 and public bug-trackers..., or who _is_ such a person themselves.

 I'd like to hear from those people.

 Experience with C++ and Python are pluses (and if you're savvy enough
 to grok things metaclasses, that's probably a big plus). If you know
 C# or Java, that's OK too. You'll need to have some background
 somewhere in there.

 Knowing SQL is a plus.

 If you've ever programmed with a video game engine, that's a plus.

 Understanding of network architectures and how Wi-Fi actually works
 is a plus.

 --
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Looking for an intern to play with a Linux-powered robot fleet

2015-07-30 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Guys,

I'm currently looking for an intern to come play with my company's Linux-powered
autonomous robot fleet this summer: Harvest Automation 
http://www.harvestai.com
is looking to give one bright individual some industrial experience that 
includes:

* Working with actual robots, simulations, testers, operations people,
  and developers to help solve issues in the application, network,
  and operating environments.

* Creating test plans, test cases, and conditions for testing of
  the robot software (both on actual hardware, running around in
  the real world, and in simulation) from information in specifications,
  feature descriptions, or bug-reports.

* Creation of test cases that address software scenarios, system
  testing, regression testing, negative testing, error or defect
  retest, performance monitoring and usability

* Reproducing and resolving software issues with the database,
  UI, or communication protocol

* Implementing a software solution from a requirement
  description within the code base using the database, UI, or
  communication protocol

* Updating test results and requirement descriptions in
  our issue-tracker

* Assisting in system set-up and software installation

* Assisting in the installation/configuration of re-creations
  of the software production environments

We're in Billerica, MA (~14 miles south of Nashua).

We're really hoping to find someone who's already got a reasonably
good grasp on what software-development entails; my boss has been
recruit from the college CS programs around Boston, and is expecting
to find someone working on a Master's CS Degree; I suspect that
we'd do well to open up the search a bit--that there's probably
someone on the list either who knows someone in college or high school
(or *whatever*) who's already savvy enough to have read some of
the more interesting compsci literature on their own, spent some time
hacking on open-source projects, and even has some code/patchsets
associated with a github/launchpad/ohloh/openhub/sourceforge/whatever
account that they could show along with trails through mailing lists
and public bug-trackers..., or who _is_ such a person themselves.

I'd like to hear from those people.

Experience with C++ and Python are pluses (and if you're savvy enough
to grok things metaclasses, that's probably a big plus). If you know
C# or Java, that's OK too. You'll need to have some background
somewhere in there.

Knowing SQL is a plus.

If you've ever programmed with a video game engine, that's a plus.

Understanding of network architectures and how Wi-Fi actually works
is a plus.

-- 
Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr.
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