[gnome-panel] Created branch gnome-3-6

2012-11-12 Thread Vincent Untz
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[gnome-menus] Created branch gnome-3-4

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[gnome-desktop] Created branch gnome-3-4

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[gnome-desktop] (2 commits) Created branch gnome-3-4

2012-03-26 Thread Vincent Untz
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Summary of new commits:

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[libwnck] Created branch gnome-2-32

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[libwnck] Created branch gnome-3-2

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[gnome-session] Created branch gnome-3-2

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[gnome-panel] Created branch gnome-3-2

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[libwnck] Created branch gnome-3-0

2011-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
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[gsettings-desktop-schemas] Created branch gnome-3-0

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[gnome-session] Created branch gnome-3-0

2011-05-26 Thread Vincent Untz
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[gnome-panel] Created branch gnome-3-0

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Re: [gnome-panel] Updated POTFILES.in

2011-04-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

I've reverted this, as
org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.clock.gschema.xml.in.in is not used right
now, so strings in there don't need to be translated yet, especially in
a string-frozen branch.

Vincent

Le jeudi 14 avril 2011, à 19:57 +, Piotr Drąg a écrit :
 commit da9990f7bdd307fc758e17b3e17ca844cee48a62
 Author: Piotr Dr??g piotrd...@gmail.com
 Date:   Thu Apr 14 21:57:43 2011 +0200
 
 Updated POTFILES.in
 
  po/POTFILES.in |1 +
  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
 ---
 diff --git a/po/POTFILES.in b/po/POTFILES.in
 index 9de300a..eea07d2 100644
 --- a/po/POTFILES.in
 +++ b/po/POTFILES.in
 @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ applets/wncklet/window-menu.c
  applets/wncklet/wncklet.c
  applets/wncklet/workspace-switcher.c
  [type: gettext/glade]applets/wncklet/workspace-switcher.ui
 +data/org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.clock.gschema.xml.in.in
  data/org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.fish.gschema.xml.in.in
  data/org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.window-list.gschema.xml.in.in
  data/org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.workspace-switcher.gschema.xml.in.in

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Re: [gnome-panel] Updated POTFILES.in

2011-04-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 19 avril 2011, à 16:33 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 16:20 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
  Hi,
  
  I've reverted this, as
  org.gnome.gnome-panel.applet.clock.gschema.xml.in.in is not used right
  now, so strings in there don't need to be translated yet, especially in
  a string-frozen branch.
 
 Vincent,
 
 Could you then put the path in POTFILES.skip?

Sure I can (and it's now done), but as it's not referenced anywhere in
the build system, I must admit I'm confused as to what would need this.
For my knowledge, what's requiring it?

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Re: Requesting Freeze Breaks for Orca 3.0.0

2011-04-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 04 avril 2011, à 14:15 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
 Hi Release Team (and i18n Team):
 
 The Orca team has three changes which we'd really like to include in the
 3.0.0 release today:
 
 1. Bug 646547 - typo in src/orca/orca_gui_prefs.py 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646547
Silly typo and grammar mistake. I suspect the i18n team got it
right in their languages. :-) We failed in English, however.

Approval 1 of 2, only if you fix all .po files at the same time, to not
break translations.

 2. Bug 646475 - Traceback seen with gnome-speech
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646475
It's a two-line, safe change. And while gnome-speech is deprecated
you still find it out there in the distros.

Approval 1 of 2.

 3. Bug 646288 - Orca needs to set and respond to the appropriate
gsettings keys
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646288

I'm not sure I understand well: in init(), you are changing the
screen-reader-enabled key to True. I'd expect init() to work only if
screen-reader-enabled is set to True, not init() to set the key. Is this
really right?

Vincent

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[libgweather] Created branch gnome-3-0

2011-04-04 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-3-0' was created pointing to:

 c73a504... release: post-release bump to 3.0.1

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 16:13 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
 translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
 fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.

I hate pushing too hard on this, but I'd really love to do a .94 tarball
very soon so that people can try the changes.

Any +1/-1 from the l10n team?

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 01 avril 2011, à 11:42 +0200, Gabor Kelemen a écrit :
 2011-04-01 09:22 keltezéssel, Claude Paroz írta:
 Le vendredi 01 avril 2011 à 09:11 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 16:13 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
 translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
 fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.
 I hate pushing too hard on this, but I'd really love to do a .94 tarball
 very soon so that people can try the changes.
 
 Any +1/-1 from the l10n team?
 +1 from me (fan of fallback mode :-) )
 
 Claude
 
 2/2, but promise that this is the last break :).

Thanks. Yeah, this is the last break for gnome-panel. Hopefull ;-) (Nah,
kidding, there's no more gnome-panel string freeze break planned for
3.0).

Vincent

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2011-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 01 avril 2011, à 10:42 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
 
 + Available
 + Busy
 + My Account
 + User Menu

As mentioned in the previous thread, I've merged the gnome-shell
translations for those four strings.

 + Menu to change your settings and your online status
 + Switch User

These are the two completely new strings.

Again, many thanks to the l10n team for bearing with me on this. I'll
make sure to release gnome-panel at the last minute for GNOME 3.0 so
that you can get as much time as possible to push translations for those
strings.

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Re: string freeze break request for control-center network panel

2011-03-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 10:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Matthias Clasen
 matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
  Hi!
 
  is about making the network panel show the same information as the
  gnome-shell network menu for devices that cannot be activated. In
  particular, we want to indicate if the device cannot be activated
  because firmware may be missing. This adds the same 'Firmware missing'
  string that was added to gnome-shell a while ago.
 
  Easiest for i18n is if you do the grep/sed magic to add the string from
  the gnome-shell po files to the gnome-control-center po files for those
  languages that translated it already. If that's possible, no objection
  from i18n.
 
 
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646027
 
 I have updated the patch to include existing translations from gnome-shell.
 Can I get an up-or-down vote on this ?

Approval 1 of 2.

Thanks,

Vincent

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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 29 mars 2011, à 16:20 +0530, Andre Klapper a écrit :
 On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 22:25 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
  My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
  category. Advantages: 
* it exists - so no need to break string freeze
* it works on both panel and shell
* it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
  their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)
 
 Looks like we have to come to an agreement here as this one has a 3.0
 target flag set...

It's getting really late to add strings, and we're not completely sure
how to deal with the new submenus from a layout perspective, so I
suggest we should just put the missing .desktop files in Other. And
we'll take time to find a solution we're really happy with for 3.2.

I've attached a patch to the bug:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=184663

Opinions?

Vincent

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From: Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:53:39 +0530
Subject: [PATCH] layout: Show administration tools and old capplets in Other

Right now, administration tools and capplets that used to be in the
Control Center are not accessible in any way. With this patch, they
appear in Other. While this is not perfect, this will make them
accessible until we find the right solution.

To do this, we just exclude .desktop files that match panels from the
Control Center instead of excludings the Settings category, which is too
broad.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
---
 layout/applications.menu |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/layout/applications.menu b/layout/applications.menu
index a1a9476..9a15849 100644
--- a/layout/applications.menu
+++ b/layout/applications.menu
@@ -145,8 +145,8 @@
 Include
   And
 NotCategoryCore/Category/Not
-NotCategorySettings/Category/Not
 NotCategoryScreensaver/Category/Not
+NotCategoryX-GNOME-Settings-Panel/Category/Not
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String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi there,

Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
GSettings, and more (see below).

Also a bit of a warning: fredp wants me to finish the minimize
difference between fallback  shell bug, which possibly means a few
other strings (that are all in gnome-shell, in the user menu). But I
don't want to block things on this.

For translators, the impact is:
 + 13 fuzzy strings
 + 4 new strings

Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
 Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
 Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n

The rationale for the (admittedly way too late) change is that
gnome-panel has a strong compatibility story in general (2.32.x can load
a 2.0.x configuration), and this comes with a price, given the way the
panel is configurable. So for 3.0, we don't want to have to deal with
gconf configuration; which means the port to GSettings is quite
important.

The other important changes in the branch I have are the following (they
do not impact translations):
  - Remove popup menu for items in applications menu
  - Remove drawers
  - Remove compatibility with 2.x configuration
  - Start 3.0 panel with brand new configuration
  - Drop per-applet Lock setting
  - Support 3.0 lockdown settings
  - Correctly display Lock screen menu item
  - Make it easy for applets to store their settings in GSettings

It's all in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/log/?h=wip/3.0-freeze-break

(I didn't cc gnome-doc-list, btw, based on feedback from Shaun)

Again, this all happens way too late and I'm very well aware of that.
But I think this is all important for the 3.0 fallback story.

Is release team happy with merging those changes?

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 mars 2011, à 19:35 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
 
  Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
  dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
  2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
   Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
   Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n
 
 Those are displayed in the UI, right? Because otherwise we more or less
 agreed to not translate messages that are thrown to the command-line
 (using g_warning/error) as it makes it more difficult to debug things.

Hrm, they are from g_printerr(). If the right thing to do is to not mark
them for translations, then I can do this and that would only leave the
schemas-related strings.

Cheers,

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Re: Code freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-03-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 mars 2011, à 10:11 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Lucian Adrian Grijincu
 lucian.griji...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 AM, David Zeuthen dav...@redhat.com wrote:
this._errorMessageLabel.set_text(_(Sorry, that didn\'t work. Please
try again.));
 
  The string is from
 
   https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AuthorizationDialog
 
  From the screenshots Incorrect password. Please try again seems 
  sufficient.
  If something more generic is needed wouldn't Authentication failed.
  Please try again suffice?
 
 I recommend staying with the current design and just adding a
 translator comment if it is required.

I went ahead and added a translator comment; didn't request any freeze
break as it's just a comment.

Vincent

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Re: String change request for Evolution

2011-03-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Le lundi 21 mars 2011, à 00:10 +, David Woodhouse a écrit :
 I've diagnosed a bug in Lotus Domino IMAP server that we need to work
 around in Evolution's IMAP client:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645332
 
 The simple workaround is to disable multi-part fetches and just get the
 whole message in one go. That code path *is* tested, because we were
 doing it for small messages anyway. 
 
 Doing it for large messages means that the connection is blocked while
 the whole of the message is downloaded, so other, higher-priority user
 requests can't be handled — and it means that the progress indication
 doesn't work. That's why it was never an option before, but it *does*
 suffice to work around the server bug, so it does seem to be necessary.
 
 So I'd like permission to break the string freeze to add this option.
 
 If anyone has improved suggestions for the English strings to use, that
 would make me happy.
 
 I wanted to do a positive option for Fetch messages in multiple parts,
 to allow better responsiveness, which would default to TRUE. But when
 we upgrade Evolution, any new option will be assumed to be FALSE in any
 pre-existing account. So AFAICT it has to be a *negative* option, along
 the lines of Fetch messages in one part.

cc'ing gnome-i18n since the i18n team is the one approving string
changes.

I guess the configuration also appears in the UI; if yes, you should
notify the doc team too (gnome-doc-list), but that should be fine.

Finally, here's a first approval for hard code freeze break, assuming
translators are happy with the string change.

Vincent

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Re: Code freeze break request for gnome-shell

2011-03-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 mars 2011, à 17:06 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 21:55 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
  +                                             text: _(),
 
  I don't think that line makes sense.
 
 Yeah, that will bring in the translation metadata...
 
  Apart from that see
  http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes :
  The following types of changes do not need explicit approval, however
  we would still very much like them to be announced so that we know about
  them:
     * Marking a message for translation that was previously not marked
  for translation by accident.
 
 Its still a code change, so +1/2 for that, assuming you unmark that
 empty string.

Approval 2 of 2.

Vincent

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New strings in gsettings-desktop-schemas

2011-02-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

I've just added a disable-log-out key to gsettings-desktop-schemas,
which means there are two new strings for the descriptions.

Cheers,

Vincent

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String change in gnome-session

2011-02-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

There was a typo in the new dialog telling the user he's going to ues
the fallback session: hardwayre instead of hardware.

This is fixed now.

Cheers,

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[gnome-panel] Created branch gnome-2-32

2011-01-31 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-32' was created pointing to:

 a7d21dc... gnome-panel-desktop: Fix the Categories key

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2011-01-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 01 février 2011, à 00:30 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
 
 + Browse all local and remote disks and folders accessible from this 
 computer
 + Browse bookmarked and local network locations
 + Computer
 + Network

I apologize for the string breaks; I thought there was a gnome-2-32
branch, but apparently that was not the case. It's all fixed now.

Vincent

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Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010, à 17:02 +0200, daniel g. siegel a écrit :
 On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
  Hi!
  
   As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
   everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
   outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw
   commits to their VCS (security, noise in the vcs history etc). Whether
   translations should be committed directly to a repo is a big
   discussion, and I believe maintainers are the ones with the final word
   on this.
  
  Well, we are currently defining the requirements for modules not hosted
  on git.gnome.org (if we allow them at all). If people are so keen on not
  hosting on git.gnome.org they will probably have to allow automatic
  commits.
 
 it would be interesting to know _why_ some modules do not like to be
 hosted on gnome.org. knowing that would make it so much easier to find
 the best way for all of us.

We should improve our infrastructure if possible, sure.

But it's a fact that there will be GNOMEy stuff not hosted on gnome.org,
whatever we do. So we'll have to find a solution for this anyway.

Let's not think that the whole world is wrong, and that we should host
everything. Let's be pragmatic and accept that people might have
different opinions on what is the best infrastructure :-)

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Re: Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010, à 12:10 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 b) we enforce a GNOME stats/translation tool, and we make the necessary
 steps so as it supports distributed development. For example, that could
 mean that the tool on l10n.gnome.org hosts an i18n version of each tracked 
 branch where
 translations are committed by GNOME teams, and the modules have to merge
 regularly this branch into main repositories (at least before each
 release).
 ++ single location for translators
 - enforcing a special workflow for maintainers
 - risk that maintainers omit to merge i18n branch
 
 My preference is for b) as it is easier for translators: only one
 workflow has to be handled.

b) sounds good, indeed. Note that you can make it easy for maintainers
if we provide some Makefile rules that they can use to update the
translations during make dist.

(That's also what transifex wants to do in the future)

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Re: New module proposal: Clutter core

2010-10-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010, à 18:41 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
 Hi!
 
  I'm pretty sure the GNOME infrastructure could do the same thing: get
  the POT file from git.clutter-project.org (it's generated by gettext and
  stored in the repository anyway); send me an email with the PO file once
  the coordinator has reviewed the contribution. I could even allow commit
  access to a branch, or a user repository that I can pull from.
 
 That would work (in might be a good idea to implement for git
 repositories in general). We didn't manage to commit to GNOME git yet
 though and I doubt it would be easier on other repositories. It's
 something that could be considered in long-term, also for some
 freedesktop modules.
 
  alternatively, GNOME could have a private Clutter core repository for
  i18n purposes alone - after all, we're using Git.
 
 We do that for some other modules and it works OK.
 
 Note: As stated before I am not so much concerned about clutter itself
 but about our general policy on handling external repositories. For git
 it might kind of work but for other things like launchpad it could
 become worse.

I think the right solution is to improve l10n.gnome.org so that it can
interacts with other platforms (like transifex) where there is a team
control.

Alternatively we can also investigate something similar to where
transifex is heading to: host the po files on l10n.gnome.org and add
some autofoo magic that would download the po files from there during
'make dist'.

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[gnome-menus] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-10-06 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created pointing to:

 ce014ee... Added Kikongo translation

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Re: [gnome-menus] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-10-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 octobre 2010, à 10:00 +, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created pointing to:
 
  ce014ee... Added Kikongo translation

FWIW, this branch should also be used for 2.32.

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Re: GNOME 2.32 Release Notes

2010-09-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010, à 09:51 -0500, Paul Cutler a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the feedback.  I've updated the release notes to include:
 
 * release-notes: Desktop screenshot for 2.32 ( attribution / thanks at the
 bottom of the file)
 * rnusers: Typo in GNOME System Tools
 * rnusers: gedit and SyncTex spelling from feedback below
 * lookingforward: changed GNOME 3.0 to be released in April, removed GAJ
 reference
 
 Please let me know if you have any questions.

I apologize, but I'm going to fix another string: one sentence mentions
March instead of April for the 3.0 release. Since this is potentially
quite visible and important, I prefer to change it than to leave
something wrong...

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Re: String and hard code freeze break requests for Empathy

2010-09-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 15 septembre 2010, à 13:31 +0200, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
 2010/9/15 Guillaume Desmottes gdesm...@gnome.org:
  Hi,
 
  We have 2 unrelated reviewed patches waiting to be merged.
 
  Bug 629736 - Blacklist Haze's sip protocol
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629736
 
  Pretty simple and will make the user experience less confusing for a lot
  of newcomers to Empathy.
  Hard code freeze break needed.
 
 RT approval 1/2

Second approval for this part.

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2010-09-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 06 septembre 2010, à 22:56 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
 
 + The implementation ID of the applet - e.g. 
 \ClockAppletFactory::ClockApplet\. This key is only relevant if the 
 object_type key is \external-applet\ (or the deprecated \bonobo-applet\).
 + The type of this panel object. Possible values are \drawer-object\, 
 \menu-object\, \launcher-object\, \external-applet\, \action-applet\, 
 \menu-bar\ and \separator\.

Sorry, this was committed by accident. I reverted the change already.

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Using gnome-2-30 branch for libgweather in GNOME 2.32

2010-08-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Because there was no relevant change in master for libgweather except
the one change libgweather to libgweather-3, we'll use libgweather from
the gnome-2-30 branch for GNOME 2.32. If a string needs to be changed,
we'll create a new gnome-2-32 branch based on gnome-2-30, but it's
unlikely to be needed.

Please note that no translations were changed in master, so nothing to
change for translators (except make sure to use the right branch :-))

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[gnome-desktop] (2 commits) Created branch gnome-2-32

2010-08-04 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-32' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  aa058f0... Added Norwegian bokmål translation
  7b1fd7f... Updated Esperanto translation
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[libgweather] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-07-02 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created pointing to:

 56a81b6... [release] 2.30.2

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gdm string freeze break (was Re: GNOME 2.30.2 stable tarballs due)

2010-06-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 08:35 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 There is unfortunately still an unresolved string freeze breakage in the
 gdm module. I've written to both the committer (CC'ed) and the gdm-list
 with no answer until now.
 
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-June/msg00062.html
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-June/msg00091.html

FWIW, there was no new gdm tarball, so the break at least doesn't affect
the tarballs. Still, it should be reverted.

Jon, GDM team, please, can you take a look at this?

Thanks,

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Re: gdm string freeze break (was Re: GNOME 2.30.2 stable tarballs due)

2010-06-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 juin 2010, à 11:21 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 08:35 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
  Hi,
  
  There is unfortunately still an unresolved string freeze breakage in the
  gdm module. I've written to both the committer (CC'ed) and the gdm-list
  with no answer until now.
  
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-June/msg00062.html
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-June/msg00091.html
 
 FWIW, there was no new gdm tarball, so the break at least doesn't affect
 the tarballs. Still, it should be reverted.
 
 Jon, GDM team, please, can you take a look at this?

And now I see that there's discussion on gdm-list -- I hadn't checked
the archives since Monday, sorry. Good to see some solution will be
possibly reached soon.

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[gnome-panel] Created branch gnome-2-30

2010-05-26 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-30' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  3cb6a14... [panel] Make sure that newly-created panels become unhidden
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[gconf] Created branch gnome-2-28

2010-04-16 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:

 3f18649... Small Makefile.am hunk that should have been committed with

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Re: [gconf] Created branch gnome-2-28

2010-04-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 16 avril 2010, à 13:08 +, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:
 
  3f18649... Small Makefile.am hunk that should have been committed with

Please note that this is also the branch to use for GNOME 2.30 too --
there have been no gconf 2.29/2.30 release.

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Re: Freeze break request

2010-03-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 mars 2010, à 15:19 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit :
 We are in hard code freeze. I included i18n only as an informative measure.

This is not covered by the hard code freeze, so you can go ahead.

Vincent

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Gabor Kelemen kelem...@gnome.hu wrote:
 
  Jason D. Clinton írta:
 
   Permission to add missing .js files to POTFILES.in?
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613092
 
 
 
  This does not count as a break, as these files are already there. Just go
  ahead and commit.
 
  Regards
  Gabor Kelemen
 
 
 

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Re: freeze break permission

2010-03-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 17 mars 2010, à 15:39 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Sergey Udaltsov
 sergey.udalt...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi folks
 
  I would like to commit one patch:
 
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613089
 
  This is not critical issue, but seems to be annoying enough. The patch
  is simple and clean
 
 I agree. Otherwise distributors have to scramble to make upgrades work.
 
 Approval 1

This adds at least one new string (not sure if the other ones are still
in the po files). So cc'ing gnome-i18n.

I think the patch should go in since it's a highly visible error dialog
on upgrades, so I'm giving a second approval for the hard code freeze
break.

Translators: the strings appearing in the patch are:
 Keyboard Indicator (Deprecated)
 Keyboard layout indicator
 Keyboard Indicator
Is this fine for you?

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Re: Empathy string/ui freeze requests: summary

2010-03-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Le mercredi 10 mars 2010, à 11:51 +0100, Guillaume Desmottes a écrit :
 Hi guys,
 
 As I'm still waiting for a reply about my latest exception requests,
 here is a quick summary.
 
 - I requested [1] last week an exception to merge a branch fixing
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611525
 This branch doesn't affect documentation (the debug window is not an end
 user tool) and introduces a new string not exposed to user.
 As pointed out by Frédéric, I fixed [2] to make it more translator
 friendly.

Just wondering: is it really important to get this in, or is it simply
nice?

[...]

 Please comment/approve/decline each request separately.

My understanding is that all changes are really just about strings, and
don't break any other specific freeze. So it's up to the l10n people :-)

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String change in gnome-desktop

2010-02-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

I changed Error cannot find file id '%s' to Cannot find file '%s' to
fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610568

This is only an error string, so no impact on documentation (hence no
gnome-doc-list in cc)

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Re: String change in gnome-desktop

2010-02-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 février 2010, à 12:17 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I changed Error cannot find file id '%s' to Cannot find file '%s' to
 fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610568

And I also added a context to the Unknown string in gnome-desktop to
clarify things, and avoid future issues. This was
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610566

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2010-01-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010, à 22:01 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
 
 + The use of this key was deprecated in GNOME 2.28 in favour of the use of 
 timezones. The schema is retained for compatibility with older versions.
 
 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.

Apologies for this -- I thought I had branched the panel earlier, but
apparently no. Let me branch from before this commit.

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[gnome-menus] Created branch gnome-2-28

2010-01-12 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:

 b6dc7a2... Updated telugu translation

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[gnome-session] Created branch gnome-2-28

2010-01-12 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:

 43488b8... updated assamese translations

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[pessulus] Created branch gnome-2-28

2010-01-12 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:

 832aa89... Updated asturian translation

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2010-01-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 12 janvier 2010, à 23:12 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le mardi 12 janvier 2010, à 22:01 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
  This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
  
  There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
  
  + The use of this key was deprecated in GNOME 2.28 in favour of the use of 
  timezones. The schema is retained for compatibility with older versions.
  
  Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
  might be worth investigating.
 
 Apologies for this -- I thought I had branched the panel earlier, but
 apparently no. Let me branch from before this commit.

Fixed now. You can take the mail as a string change notification for
2.29, though :-) Another string was added: Choose an icon.

Cheers,

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Fwd: New module decisions for 2.30

2009-11-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Forwarding to make sure l10n.gnome.org gets updated :-)

Vincent

- Forwarded message from Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org -

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:38:29 +0100
From: Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org
To: devel-announce-l...@gnome.org
Subject: New module decisions for 2.30
Mail-Followup-To: devel-announce-l...@gnome.org

Hi,

The release team met last week to eat some ice cream, chat about who
will be the villain(s) in the next Batman movie and play some football
(or soccer if you're living in a country where there's another football
game ;-)). We still found some time to discuss the new module proposals.

Many thanks to the people who contributed to the discussion on the list,
and to the authors and maintainers of the proposed modules!


Short summary
=

Please make sure to read the details for modules that are of interest to
you, as the release team generally comments on why a module is approved
or rejected, with recommendations that we'd like to see followed.


In:
  gmime (external dependency)
  libdb (external dependency)
  vala (external dependency)
  gnome-packagekit (desktop)
  nautilus-sendto (desktop)

In, but not as expected:
  tracker (external dependency instead of desktop)
  dconf (not for 2.30, but pre-approved for 3.0)

Blocking on external issues:
  clutter-core (see details below)

Out:
  couch-db, evolution-couchdb (desktop)
  globalmenu (desktop)
  nautilus-actions (desktop)

Withdrawn by maintainer:
  emerillon (desktop)
  libvtemm (desktop)


Details
===

 + gmime (external dependency)
   - needed by totem-pl-parser (in 2.28 already)
   - would be needed by tracker
   = approved
   = it would make sense to make evolution-data-server/evolution use
  gmime to remove code duplication.

 + libdb (external dependency)
   = already approved by mail

 + vala (external dependency)
   - would be needed by parts of dconf and tracker
   - gathered quite some interest already
   = approved
   = the release team encourages maintainers of modules using vala to
  put generated files in tarballs to enable compilation without vala
  being installed.

 + clutter-core (desktop)
   - already adopted by the GNOME community
   - already an external dependency
   - not hosted on GNOME infrastructure, but tarballs and API docs are
 now there (missing: git and bugzilla)
   - copyright waiver possibly limits contributions:
 http://bugzilla.openedhand.com/waiver.html
   - copyright assignment is also an issue
   = the release team is working with the Foundation to investigate the
  copyright waiver and copyright assignment, and with Intel to find
  an appropriate solution.
   = feedback from the community at large on what solution would be
  appropriate is welcome.
   = at least bugzilla should be moved to the GNOME infrastructure.
   = rejected, until those (non-technical) issues are solved. We still
  support the project as we believe it's really essential for GNOME,
  especially in the GNOME 3 context.

 + couch-db, evolution-couchdb (desktop)
   - not really used widely at the moment
   - it seems the mozilla javascript engine is a highly recommended
 dependency. Until we come to a decision about the mozilla vs webkit
 engines, this is an issue.
   = rejected: too early for wider adoption.

 + dconf (desktop)
   - agreement it's the way forward
   - concerns about migration of settings
   - concerns about the lack of planning for admin tools (pessulus and
 sabayon)
   - concerns about the fact that we need stuff in glib but that's not
 there yet (although we know there's a plan for this)
   - a massive migration from gconf to dconf would be preferrable
 (instead of having some modules using gconf and some other modules
 using dconf). We know it might not be realistic, though.
   = rejected for this cycle, but pre-approved for the next cycle
  (assuming glib gets the required API for the next cycle). The
  additional time should be used for careful planning of the above
  items.
   = we encourage developers to look at it and to create gsettings
  branches for their modules (like devhelp and gedit).

 + emerillon (desktop)
   = withdrawn by maintainer

 + globalmenu (desktop)
   - still considered as a hack by platform maintainers
   - does not align with the GNOME 3 plans at the moment
   = rejected

 + gnome-packagekit (desktop)
   - the PackageKit integration in GNOME offers nice features
   - the PackageKit tools are not used widely by all distributions right
 now
   - some parts of gnome-packagekit have a place in the desktop suite,
 but not all of them, so it's not clear what to do right now.
   = approved
   = we believe packagers will only take the parts of gnome-packagekit
  they want in their packages anyway. Packagers can contribute
  patches to make this easier for them as Richard is open to this
  idea.

 + libvtemm (desktop)
   = withdrawn by maintainer

 + nautilus-actions

Re: UI changes for control-center

2009-08-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 27 août 2009, à 15:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 So, in order to come to some conclusion here, I'll give a +1 for
 removing the interface tab. (Kinda obvious, since I wrote the patch in
 the first place...).  I'll be more than happy to work on fixing up the
 docs afterwards.
 
 Can we get some response from my fellow release team members ?

-1 from me. It's too late in the cycle to change this kind of stuff. I
don't see any reason to not wait for 2.29.

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Re: [libslab] Created branch gnome-2-28

2009-08-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 août 2009, à 09:07 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Le jeudi 27 août 2009 à 23:31 +, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit :
  The branch 'gnome-2-28' was created pointing to:
  
   c86c081... Add NEWS file for the 2.27.91 release notes
  
 
 Hi Federico,
 
 Could we know the exact status of libslab now, especially from a
 translator point of view?
 Is it worth translating it for itself, or is it only used to be copied
 in gnome-control-center tree?

It's at least used by gnome-main-menu. No idea what the control center
maintainers think about depending on it instead of using the internal
copy (until a new control center shell appears, at least)

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Re: UI changes for control-center

2009-08-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 août 2009, à 18:44 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Vincent Untzvu...@gnome.org wrote:
  Le jeudi 27 août 2009, à 15:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
  So, in order to come to some conclusion here, I'll give a +1 for
  removing the interface tab. (Kinda obvious, since I wrote the patch in
  the first place...).  I'll be more than happy to work on fixing up the
  docs afterwards.
 
  Can we get some response from my fellow release team members ?
 
  -1 from me. It's too late in the cycle to change this kind of stuff. I
  don't see any reason to not wait for 2.29.
 
 
 I'd be honestly interested in the argument why it is too late.

Because I don't see why we would do a big change like this while we only
have a RC left before the stable release. The main issue (from my point
of view) is that we don't know how people will react to this change, and
we don't have time to evaluate this.

Also, I see no urgent reason to fix this now. It's definitely not
something that, imho, is mandatory for the 2.28 release; so it can wait
for the next release.

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New string in libgweather

2009-08-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

A new string (Greenwich Mean Time) was added to libgweather to fix
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541145

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String change in gnome-panel

2009-08-12 Thread Vincent Untz
To fix some lockdown feature not correctly working, a gconf key had to
be deprecated in gnome-panel, and its description was updated to point
out to the right gconf key.

See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317609 for details.

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String changes in gnome-panel

2009-08-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

I've ported a bunch of things to GtkBuilder in gnome-panel, and
therefore removed some b/b from strings. I'll likely have another
similar change soon.

There's also one string which was really changed (Clock Options =
Clock Format)

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String changes in pessulus

2009-08-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

pessulus was ported to GtkBuilder, hence the b/b in various strings
should have disappeared now :-)

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Re: String changes in gnome-panel

2009-08-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 11 août 2009, à 16:01 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I've ported a bunch of things to GtkBuilder in gnome-panel, and
 therefore removed some b/b from strings. I'll likely have another
 similar change soon.
 
 There's also one string which was really changed (Clock Options =
 Clock Format)

A few more strings were changed/added for missing mnemonics or window
titles. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567811

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[libgnomecanvas] Created branch gnome-2-26

2009-08-11 Thread Vincent Untz
The branch 'gnome-2-26' was created pointing to:

 8975e36... Minor fix to Catalan translation

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Re: String additions to 'sabayon.master'

2009-08-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 05 août 2009, à 18:28 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit :
 On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 09:15 +0200, Claude Paroz wrote:
 
  Sabayon is still string freezed as it has not branched for 2.26. Could
  you please branch it at a point before the string changes ?
 
 Hmm, sorry about that.
 
 However, the last release of Sabayon was 2.25.0.  There were never any
 2.26.x releases.  I intend to make 2.27.0 this week; do we still need a
 branch for 2.26?  I never intend to release that; Sabayon was way too
 broken in that time period :(

I'd say that for the release team, it's fine to consider 2.25.0 as
non-2.26. But since it's mainly an issue for translators now, I guess
it's up to them to decide what's better for them.

(Federico: I guess it's okay to have a gnome-2-26 branch that is just a
dead-end ;-))

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Re: String additions to 'sabayon.master'

2009-08-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 07 août 2009, à 13:46 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Le vendredi 07 août 2009 à 12:49 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
  Le mercredi 05 août 2009, à 18:28 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit :
   However, the last release of Sabayon was 2.25.0.  There were never any
   2.26.x releases.  I intend to make 2.27.0 this week; do we still need a
   branch for 2.26?  I never intend to release that; Sabayon was way too
   broken in that time period :(
  
  I'd say that for the release team, it's fine to consider 2.25.0 as
  non-2.26. But since it's mainly an issue for translators now, I guess
  it's up to them to decide what's better for them.
  
  (Federico: I guess it's okay to have a gnome-2-26 branch that is just a
  dead-end ;-))
 
 We could also consider that GNOME 2.26 used the gnome-2-24 sabayon
 branch, regarding strings. Does it make sense?

I guess it works. It'd be a bit painful if there were still some
releases to be expected for 2.26 (since it'd mean translator would have
to push their translations to this branch), but that shouldn't change
anything now.

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New string in epiphany

2009-07-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

The default bookmarks in epiphany (which is just one bookmark ;-)) now
come with a new string: in addition to be the URL for a Google search,
there's the URL for the localized Google homepage.

Thanks,

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Re: [epiphany] (8 commits) Created branch gnome-keyring

2009-07-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 29 juillet 2009, à 13:55 +0300, Priit Laes a écrit :
 Ühel kenal päeval, K, 2009-07-29 kell 10:30, kirjutas Priit Laes:
  The branch 'gnome-keyring' was created.
  
  Summary of new commits:
  
23228a2... Move Epiphany to solely use GnomeKeyring for password manag
b16eeff... Set password column initially as hidden.
9b9dd3d... Use correct column from store for deletion.
d686fe2... Make pdm_dialog_fill_passwords_list asynchronous.
b038a8f... Make password loading/showing asynchronous.
1b6928f... Make clear all functionality asynchronous.
9657890... Password removal is now async :)
93fab0d... Password adding is fully async now.
  ___
 
 Hum.. any ideas why git sent this here?

See
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2009-July/msg00061.html

(and see my reply to the mail, which was sent just before your mails
were sent ;-))

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String addition in pessulus

2009-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

While moving away from libgnome in pessulus, I added a new string:
Could not display help document '%s'

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Re: String additions to 'pessulus.master'

2009-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 28 juillet 2009, à 15:43 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'pessulus.master':
 
 + Could not display help document '%s'
 
 Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
 might be worth investigating.

Oops, it seems pessulus was never branched for 2.26. I'll do that right
now. Apologies for the inconvenience.

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pessulus branched for 2.26

2009-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
pessulus now has gnome-2-26 branch.

Vincent

Le mardi 28 juillet 2009, à 17:46 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le mardi 28 juillet 2009, à 15:43 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
  This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
  
  There have been following string additions to module 'pessulus.master':
  
  + Could not display help document '%s'
  
  Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
  might be worth investigating.
 
 Oops, it seems pessulus was never branched for 2.26. I'll do that right
 now. Apologies for the inconvenience.
 
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Re: String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2009-06-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 04 juin 2009, à 09:44 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit :
 Hi Matthias,
 
 Am Donnerstag, den 04.06.2009, 01:51 + schrieb GNOME Status Pages:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
  There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':
  + Time  Date
 
 Please branch gnome-panel for gnome-2-26 before (or revert
 7c602237b240692e8aabccb736d2be871a509dba).

This is my fault -- told Matthias to commit without noticing the string
change. I'll create a branch.

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gnome-{desktop,menus,panel,session}, libgweather and libwnck branched for 2.26

2009-06-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

I just branched gnome-{desktop,menus,panel,session}, libgweather and
libwnck for 2.26, with the usual gnome-2-26 name.

Note to translators: the gnome-panel branch doesn't contain the string
freeze break. I also had to mark some strings as fuzzy to pass the
post-commit check for po files. This has been done for:

  + gnome-panel: bn, ku (the strings don't exist anymore in the code,
though)
  + libwnck: ne

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Re: String additions to 'anjuta.gnome-2-26'

2009-04-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 16 avril 2009, à 12:05 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
 2009/4/14 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de:
  Hi!
 
  sorry to ask, but why also on 2.26 and not only on HEAD? Tarballs for
  2.26.1 were due yesterday and release day will be tomorrow...
 
  These strings are untranslated at the moment anyway. By adding them to the
  2.26 branch there is a chance that they might be translated in 2.26.2 and if
  not it's not worse as if there were not marked for translation.
  I know that some teams always are more tied to have a 100% statistic than
  all strings marked but you all know that statistics are just damned-lies.
 
 I think that we translators are a little astonshed about the timing,
 not about our own statistics.
 
 I think a sequence like:
  1. produce and release 2.26.1 tgz
  2. warn this list about incoming POTFILES.in change
  3. change POTFILES.in in svn
 would de more appreciated by translators.
 
 BTW, could we update the freeze rules about changes to POTFILES.in
 while in string freeze? I'm not asking for release team approval, just
 developers have to notify gnome-i18n ML about the intent/need to
 update POTFILES.in before change it.

But what does it change? The strings are already there and are already
visible in english. I don't see how waiting can help translators --
adding the files to POTFILES.in as fast as possible on the contrary
gives more time to the translation teams that can manage to translate
those strings.

(and sure, it's unfortunate that some files were missing from
POTFILES.in and this is not something that we want to see happen, but it
does happen from time to time)

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Re: Requesting String freeze break for Deskbar-Applet

2009-04-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 07 avril 2009, à 17:11 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl a écrit :
 Hi!
 
 I'm requesting string freeze break for Deskbar-Applet to fix bug 577649 [1].
 
 On some systems the templates directory can not be retrieved, therefore
 the templates module crashes. The patch [2] checks if the templates
 directory can be retrieved and if it exists and only then the templates
 module can be enabled.
 
 If one of the checks fails an error message is displayed when you select
 the templates modules from the list of modules with errors.

Hrm. Why not just enable the module anyway and not crash?
(I would guess adding new strings for something which is not affecting
most people wouldn't please translators)

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-control-center.HEAD'

2009-03-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 20 mars 2009, à 09:40 +0100, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Le jeudi 19 mars 2009 à 23:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
  This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
  http://l10n.gnome.org.
  
  There have been following string additions to module 
  'gnome-control-center.HEAD':
  
  + Could not get object to apply display configuration
  + Could not get org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR_2
  
  Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
  might be worth investigating.
 
 Hi Federico,
 
 Could you please request a formal string freeze break approval for this
 change?

And also make them useful to the user? They're rather pointless at the
moment for a user, so I'm not even sure they should be translatable.

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Re: String additions to 'brasero.HEAD'

2009-03-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 11 mars 2009, à 01:48 +0100, Gabor Kelemen a écrit :
 Luis Medinas írta:
 On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 23:55 +, GNOME Status Pages wrote:
   
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org.

 There have been following string additions to module 'brasero.HEAD':

 + CD/DVD Creator

 
 I'm sorry to all translators but this string really needs to be changed
 to avoid any regression from NCB.
 Please consider to aprove and see also bgo #573790 for details.

   
 Well, we are now in hard code freeze[1], so deciding about this is the  
 job of release-team.

 Release team: is it ok to fix this:  
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573790
 Actually, the code is already committed as:  
 http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/brasero/trunk/nautilus/brasero-nautilus.desktop.in.in?r1=1928r2=2073
  

This is not code, so it's not frozen by the hard code freeze. However,
Luis, you should have first requested permission to break the string
freeze: please try to avoid committing a new string like this without
approval in the future :-)

It's up to the translation team to decide what to do at this point.

FWIW, and it's just a personal opinion, I'm unsure whether breaking the
freeze for this is worth the trouble. But I can understand the argument
about compatibility with old user habits.

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Re: Here we go again *SIGH*

2009-03-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 04 mars 2009, à 12:21 +, Anna Jonna Armannsdottir a écrit :
 On þri, 2009-03-03 at 14:41 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
  I would also point out that having no freeze break (with requests from
  the developers, of course) would be bad: having some breaks is a good
  sign, showing that the development is active and not dead. Of course,
  we
  don't want tons of freeze breaks. And of course they should be
  approved
  first.
  
  Vincent
 
 The responses from the developers indicate quite clearly that they 
 are not satisfied with the methods of string freeze. 
 Presently a number of developers, are deliberately breaking the 
 string freeze and thereby creating trouble for translators. 
 The argument seems to be: We break string freeze because we can. 

I think it's unfair to say developers are using this argument or even
that they're deliberately breaking the string freeze. If you look at the
breaks, we have the following situations:

 + the string was not marked as translatable.
   = we want the break anyway, since it can only make the situation
  better.

 + the developer asked for permission before committing.
   = this was the decision of the coordination team to accept the
  break.

 + the developer didn't ask for permission, but it was approved
   afterwards.
   = this is bad and the developer should be told so. But the result is
  the same as the above case.

 + the developer didn't ask for permission, and it was rejected
   afterwards.
   = this is bad and the developer should be told so. The break gets
  reverted. (if it doesn't get reverted, please tell the release
  team)

 + this is needed for a really really really important bug fix (eg,
   related to security)
   = it doesn't happen often since it's really an exception, but in
  such cases, the opinion of the coordination team is bypassed (but
  the coordination team would likely approve such a change anyway)

 + the module does not follow the GNOME freezes (eg, gtk+, glib)
   = not a lot we can do, except ask the maintainers of such modules to
  think of translators (and I would say they do)

I don't think developers break string freeze because they can. When they
do so before asking for permission, it's mostly because they forget
about it. It'd be interesting to look at what happened this cycle and
see how much of the breaks had no request (and were for completely new
strings, and not to mark existing strings translatable).

Thanks,

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Re: Here we go again *SIGH*

2009-03-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 03 mars 2009, à 09:24 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
 Hi!
 
 Am Dienstag, den 03.03.2009, 00:34 +0100 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen:
  We entered string freeze on February 16 and the following is a
  transcript of my gmail gnome-i18n inbox, ALL of the listed items are
  dated after that date. So does string freeze now mean, that it is the
  point you all start fixing bugs at or what?
 
 Regarding the number of strings that GNOME consists of I think we did
 quite good this term. Note that not all of the mails you mentioned were
 real string freeze breaks and that some have been reverted because they
 were disapproved.
 
 Anyway, of course bug-fixing mostly starts after string freeze because
 it's in the last weeks were a lot of polishing happens.

I would also point out that having no freeze break (with requests from
the developers, of course) would be bad: having some breaks is a good
sign, showing that the development is active and not dead. Of course, we
don't want tons of freeze breaks. And of course they should be approved
first.

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Status of release notes

2009-03-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi translators,

It seems the release notes will be late one more time :/ We're all aware
how bad this is...

Anyway, it's important that you know the status so that you can at least
try to plan things accordingly. At this point, I would guess it's likely
there'll be only one week or even just a few days to translate the
release notes.

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Re: New string in libgweather

2009-02-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 17 février 2009, à 20:19 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee a écrit :
 2009-02-17 klockan 20:12 skrev Vincent Untz:
  Hey,
  
  We had a string Unknown that wasn't marked for translation in the
  timezone selector. I made it translatable with a context, and this adds
  a new string in libgweather.
  
  Just saw not that there was already a Unknown string used somewhere
  else without context. I think it's bad to reuse it (the result will be
  wrong in french, eg -- inconnu vs inconnue). If you guys think it's
  bad to add the new string, I can just re-use Unknown without context.
 
 Approval 1/2 to add the new string.
 
 Actually, I would even be in favor of adding context to BOTH unknown
 strings, even the one that was already there. People will have to translate
 that new string anyway, so better take the opportunity to fix the errors in
 the existing string, that no doubt will currently be wrong for many
 languages.

Given the fact that unknown is used in many many places, I'm not sure
how much more contexts it would add. I can do that if translators want,
but I think it's probably better to wait 2.27 and file a bug.

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New string in libgweather

2009-02-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

We had a string Unknown that wasn't marked for translation in the
timezone selector. I made it translatable with a context, and this adds
a new string in libgweather.

Just saw not that there was already a Unknown string used somewhere
else without context. I think it's bad to reuse it (the result will be
wrong in french, eg -- inconnu vs inconnue). If you guys think it's
bad to add the new string, I can just re-use Unknown without context.

Cheers,

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Re: New string in libgweather

2009-02-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 17 février 2009, à 20:12 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Hey,
 
 We had a string Unknown that wasn't marked for translation in the
 timezone selector. I made it translatable with a context, and this adds
 a new string in libgweather.
 
 Just saw not that there was already a Unknown string used somewhere

Just saw now. I really need to read what I write twice...

 else without context. I think it's bad to reuse it (the result will be
 wrong in french, eg -- inconnu vs inconnue). If you guys think it's
 bad to add the new string, I can just re-use Unknown without context.

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Re: String changes in gnome-session

2009-02-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 13 février 2009, à 07:34 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
 Il giorno gio, 12/02/2009 alle 11.16 +0100, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
  Il giorno gio, 12/02/2009 alle 02.20 +, Lucas Rocha ha scritto:
   Hi all,
   
   I've changed changed the name and description of the session capplet
   to better match what it actully does nowadays. The changes were made
   in the capplet .desktop file.
   
   Name is now: Startup Applications
   Description is now: Choose what applications to start when you log in
  
  Lucas, you should update the window title/name too, changing to Startup
  Applications Preferences (according to other capplets).
 
 Trivial patch attached

 Index: gsm-properties-dialog.c
 ===
 --- gsm-properties-dialog.c   (revisione 5252)
 +++ gsm-properties-dialog.c   (copia locale)
 @@ -1450,7 +1450,7 @@
  gtk_box_set_spacing (GTK_BOX (GTK_DIALOG (dialog)-vbox), 2);
  gtk_dialog_set_has_separator (GTK_DIALOG (dialog), FALSE);
  gtk_window_set_icon_name (GTK_WINDOW (dialog), session-properties);
 -gtk_window_set_title (GTK_WINDOW (dialog), _(Sessions 
 Preferences));
 +gtk_window_set_title (GTK_WINDOW (dialog), _(Startup Applications 
 Preferences));
  }
  
  static void

Please commit.

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Re: Freeze break request for the keyboard capplet

2009-02-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 12 février 2009, à 14:39 -0500, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
 
  I assume this means the documentation is out of date.  Could
  you open a bug against gnome-user-docs?  I'll be going through
  the bugs again this weekend.
 
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571529
 
 This is also release notes material, imo (control moved from one place
 to another one...).
 
 What is the process for making that happen ?

Just add something to
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyfive/ReleaseNotes
that Olav created today
(if you didn't already do so ;-))

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Re: UI freeze break request: incoming muc invitation in Empathy

2009-02-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 12 février 2009, à 15:34 +, Guillaume Desmottes a écrit :
 Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 18:40 +0100, Milo Casagrande a écrit :
  Il giorno mar, 10/02/2009 alle 17.45 +0100, Frederic Peters ha scritto:
   The UI change is minimal, and from a quick look at the documentation
   it doesn't seem the actions that can be performed from the status icon
   are mentioned at all.
  
  I've been asked to add a little comment into this thread since I'm the
  last person that has been (and still is) working on Empathy
  documentation. This changes doesn't affect the documentation (yet). Work
  is ongoing, even if at a low pace than I would really like: it's not
  that easy to balance an easy to read document for end user with a
  complex application without falling into too technical/nerdy details.
  
  If somebody is willing to help with directions, proofreading or
  whatever, please contact me, I'll be more than happy!
 
 Thanks for your comments.
 
 We got the 2 approvals from the release team so it would be good to have
 the advice of the doc-team as well. :)

I take Milo's mail as a it's fine from the documentation side, fwiw.

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Re: Evolution - UI change - ask for an approval

2009-02-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 09 février 2009, à 19:54 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit :
 Ahoj Milan,
 
 Am Montag, den 09.02.2009, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Milan Crha:
  m sorry, I just realized I broke an UI freeze with my recent commits
  from below bugs. It only hides some widgets in the Network Preferences,
  those which are not used in the code, thus which could confuse users.
  The UI is a bit simpler now.
  
  I'll revert my changes with respect to UI if you disapprove such change.
 
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548623
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555888
   
   to Evolution and Evolution-Data-Server, which involves UI change in
   Edit-Preferences-Network Preferences.
 
 Release team approval 1 of 2 if user documentation and potential
 screenshots will definitely be updated

Late 2 of 2 :-)

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Re: Problem with committing to gnome-screensaver

2009-02-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 10 février 2009, à 17:24 +0100, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Le mardi 10 février 2009 à 10:51 -0500, William Jon McCann a écrit :
  Hi Gil,
  
  gnome-screensaver has moved to git.  I've updated the jhbuild config
  now.  Sorry for not letting you know sooner.
 
 Is it now admitted that maintainers of core GNOME modules can freely
 choose their VCS? Is it a discussion/decision I missed somewhere?
 
 Is the release-team totally aware of this move? What is the plan
 regarding i18n?

Don't know about the other release team members, but I wasn't aware of
this.

At this moment, it's not an option for any official GNOME module to move
to git: this totally breaks the workflow of at least translators, just
before 2.26.0. I'm pretty sure we didn't complete all tasks required for
such a migration to happen (eg, do we have correct documentation?).

So, please revert this migration for gnome-screensaver.

cc'ing gnome-infrastructure so that similar migrations for official
GNOME modules are blocked.
(fwiw, it's fine to have other modules like gnome-shell in git)

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Re: [vertimus] Merge uploaded file?

2009-01-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 19 janvier 2009, à 22:36 +0100, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to know your opinion about the following matter:
 - Should files uploaded by translators on the Vertimus section of
 l10n.gnome.org be always merged with the latest pot file?

Maybe just provide the original file uploaded by the translator and the
merged file?

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String change in libwnck

2009-01-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

libwnck just got migrated from Q_() to C_() (so the strings seen by the
users won't change -- but the po files need an update)

Thanks,

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Re: New string in Evolution/Stable

2008-12-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 16 décembre 2008, à 23:19 +0200, Deniz Koçak a écrit :
 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:
  Le lundi 15 décembre 2008 à 11:27 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan a écrit :
  Release team/I18N team,
 
  Any more questions, suggestions? I'm looking at a 2.24.2.1 release for
  Evolution sometime this week. Is it possible to consider this for it?
 
  If the release team judges this bug important enough, it's ok for me to
  accept the new string. There is still one month before 2.24.3
  So 1/2 approval for gnome-i18n.
 
 Approval 2/2 for gnome-i18n.

So I guess you can go ahead with this, as long as it's fixed another way
in the long term. The current solution is only a workaround.

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Re: New string in Evolution/Stable

2008-12-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 10 décembre 2008, à 14:14 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan a écrit :
 Guys,
 
 I have a patch on a bug #546637, where I have decided to add a new menu
 item(_Unread Search Folder) causing a string freeze break. I may
 mention this menu item in the doc changes also.
 
 For the background, this bug, breaks badly unread/vfolder and I had to
 hack it to make it work well and no other choice I have for now. For
 that, I had added a menu item. This is an important stuff for Evolution,
 and I would like to push to stable and do a intermediate release in a
 week or so [with so many other fixes].
 
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546637#c43 has the patch.
 
 I would like to take your thoughts and do it. Thanks.

I just put a comment on the bug. I know you said it's a hack, but it's
unclear why such a hack is needed.

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Re: Potential request for freeze break (gnome-panel 2.24.x)

2008-12-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 22 novembre 2008, à 10:41 +0200, Deniz Koçak a écrit :
 I  agree.  Approval 2 of 2 for 2.24.3.

Just committed the new string to the gnome-2-24 branch.

Vincent

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-menus.gnome-2-20'

2008-12-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 01 décembre 2008, à 23:25 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :
 This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
 http://l10n.gnome.org/.
 
 There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-menus.gnome-2-20':

Probably a false positive -- nothing has changed in the gnome-2-20
branch since 9 months.

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Re: Translation of copyright strings

2008-11-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 27 novembre 2008, à 14:37 +0200, F Wolff a écrit :
 Hallo list
 
 I'd like to ask feedback on a an I18N bug I reported a while ago to make
 the copyright string of gnome-nettool translatable:
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559852
 
 The developer marked the bug with NEEDINFO, claiming that it is not
 normally done, which would be really strange to me. Certainly other
 people also translate Copyright ©  in their languages, and I
 imagine some people would like to use other number systems for the years
 than the Arabic ones used for English.
 
 Any other reasons? Any reasons not to make them translatable?

I guess this could be to avoid any potential confusion from a legal
point of view. Not sure, though.

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