Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Introducing ConnochaetOS

Hello jaromil, On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:01:41 +0200 jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: this sounds like very good news! while i'm forwarding your heads-up to the developer community behind dyne:bolic, i can already anticipate we'd be happy to offer you hosting facilities, like bugtracker, git

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Introducing ConnochaetOS

Hello Quiliro, On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:11:52 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@gmail.com wrote: Even if you do your own separate project, Parabola is doing the same work as you Not exactly. They are doing a free Arch Linux with Linux-Libre, but they have the almost the same nearly bleeding-edge

[GNU-linux-libre] Free 3d drivers?

Hello, I just discovered free3d.org. I was wondering which of this 3D drivers is not really free (because of blobs in corresponding modules in the Torvalds kernel or required proprietary firmware). I know that nouveau is blob-free since 2.6.33 or so. What about radeon and other drivers? Is

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] more http://libreplanet.org/wiki?title=NONFSDG stuff

Hello, On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:06:59 +0930 Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: I've started comparing gNewSense's two blacklists with the NONFSDG [1], Where can I find gNewSense's Blacklist (aside from plain Bugreports)? I have found http://wiki.gnewsense.org/Main/SuspectedNonFree. Is there

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] more http://libreplanet.org/wiki?title=NONFSDG stuff

Hello Sam, On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:41:40 +0200 Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote: - ttf-thai, in Debian based distros the name is ttf-thai-tlwg, contains non-free fonts. thaifonts-scalable-libre exists.[2] What's non-free about it? I quote the mail I wrote to the Parabola

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] 3D with free software

Hello Quiliro, On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:52:28 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@gmail.com wrote: I have checked http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/index_html/video . Do all the cards that do not say anything about not supporting 3D can use 3D with free softwre? When a card is not mentioned you have

[GNU-linux-libre] Review of Trisquel 4.0 at Distrowatch

Hello, I was glad to find a review of Trisquel 4.0 at Distrowatch at http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20101004#feature I am very interested in the different GNU/Linux distros, especially in the fully free ones for different reasons. One reason is, that I am part of a team that is

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] debian squeeze kernel freed?

On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:47:55 -0700 John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org wrote: No, they did their own work to remove proprietary firmware from the upstream kernel. I found this: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing It would be really interesting to know where the differences between

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] The Free Kernel In Debian Squeeze

Thanks for your work. As I see it the main difference between the Squeeze kernel and Linux-Libre is the ability to load non-free firmware and as such the very mentioning of non-free firmware files in the soruce code. The Squeeze kernel is still able to load non-free firmware, but it's not

[GNU-linux-libre] has dosemu freedom issues?

Hello,. a user of my distro asked if we can include dosemu, another user said, that we can't because dosemu has freedom issues. To quote the user: the DOS part needs OpenWatcom (OSS, but NOT libre) or TurboC/TurboC++ (gratis not libre) to build. The DOS part refers to FreeDOS. OpenWatcom is

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] has dosemu freedom issues?

Hello Sam, I am CC'ing this to the Parabola GNU/Linux list, since they have dosemu in their community repo. On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:29:48 +0100 Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote: So dosemu is libre and FreeDOS is libre, but FreeDOS can only be built with non-free tools? Exactly.

[GNU-linux-libre] ConnochaetOS 0.9 RC1 released

The upcoming ConnochaetOS 0.9 reached the RC1 release and should be ready for testing. All open bugs were fixed in this release and it should run pretty stable by now. If you have some time please have a look at it. ConnochaetOS comes with LTS kernel 2.6.32-libre, X.org, IceWM desktop, a webkit

[GNU-linux-libre] How do you handle references to non-free software in public forums?

Hello, If it occurs at the forum of a FSDG compliant distro that now and then non-free software is mentioned, how do you handle this? The question came to my mind because of http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Free_System_Distribution_Checklist#Only_Suggests_Free_Software Deleting the posts would be

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] How do you handle references to non-free software in public forums?

Hello Sam, On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:51:50 +0200 Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote: Non-free software should be discouraged if someone brings them up. All right, but in case of many new users or a high-traffic forum a small team wouldn't be able to discourage every reference to

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] How do you handle references to non-free softwarein public forums?

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Jason Self ja...@bluehome.net wrote: Henry Jensen hjen...@gmx.de wrote .. If it occurs at the forum of a FSDG compliant distro that now and then non-free software is mentioned, how do you handle this? I think gNewSense does this pretty well

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FSDG-issue in xdg-utils?

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:48:24 +1000 Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: It would be nice if you could say what browsers/where to find them, so we don't all have to go searching. I didn't mention them because I saw that xdg-utils differs a lot on various distros. E. g. in the original version

[GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

ConnochaetOS is a fully free/libre GNU/Linux operating system for the desktop with old computers in mind, but with modern software. ConnochaetOS contains only free software, according to the GNU Guidelines for Free System Distributions. We have been added to the incoming distros list at

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

Hello Jason, On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Jason Self ja...@bluehome.net wrote: Thanks for your remarks. You mentioned mainly some poor wordings at the web site. I am with you on this, but not all members of our community are very familiar with the appropriate wording. However, the

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

Hi Ruben, On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:03:34 +0200 Rubén Rodríguez ru...@gnu.org wrote: Even if you found individuals involved with the FSFE who believe that Free Software and Open Source are the same movements, that is not the FSFE position: http://fsfe.org/documents/whyfs.html You may also

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:03:48 + Ineiev ine...@gnu.org wrote: Anyway, I think this discussion is a little off-topic on this list. It is being discussed whether a free distribution may want to represent itself as Open Source. I think there is a misunderstanding. ConnochaetOS, as far as I

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

Hi Quiliro, On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:57:10 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: I don't see where the problem is to erradicate things that do bad such as hunger, infant death and user subjugating software. The problem is the attitude. I can propagate my message in a positive

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

Hello Quiliro, On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:19:50 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: It is OK to use the terms in a positive way but not to be distracted from the issue of freedom. A position more according to FSF and in the positive sense as you propose would be: Use ONLY

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:59:46 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: At http://www.fsf.org/working-together/gang/ the FSF even endorses FreeBSD, which is known to have proprietary software in their ports. (personally I think, FreeBSD shouldn't be listed there. If they must

[GNU-linux-libre] Non-FSDG endorsements by FSF (was: Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS)

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:27:53 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: On 23/08/11 03:42, Henry Jensen wrote: The naming situation in BSD is not like the situation in GNU/Linux. FreeBSDis the whole system, kernel + userland. The kernel alone is just called the FreeBSD kernel

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

Hi Quiliro, On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:11:51 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: Richard said he is discussing this issue with FSFE. FSF does not support that position. In fact, FSF regards opensource software as something good but the opensource ideas as bad. It sounds

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:55:45 +0100 Michael Dorrington michael.dorring...@gmail.com wrote: I am in the UK and I understand the difference so it isn't only America. And I am fairly sure that LibrePlanet Italia understands the difference http://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanetItalia . The terms

[GNU-linux-libre] Freedom issues in lame, cdrkit, SDL, foomatic-filters, freepascal, unzip

Hello, a number of freedom bugs have been reported at the ConnochaetOS Bug Report forum. It seems that all this bugs exists in many (if not most) other free distros as well, which is why report them here, too. I also didn't found this issues at

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Freedom issues in lame, cdrkit, SDL, foomatic-filters, freepascal, unzip

Hello Karl, As I wrote, it needs improvement :-) On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:26:20 GMT k...@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) wrote: 1) That should be echo '/usr/bin/7z x $@' /usr/bin/unzip ($@ only has its magical qualities inside .) Right. 2) As far as I can tell, there are numerous

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:36:23 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: I suggest you regard official FSFE's positions from their website in: https://fsfe.org/about/basics/freesoftware https://fsfe.org/documents/whyfs-howto And disregard previous statements from FSFE officers that

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Request for Endorsement for ConnochaetOS

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:04:04 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez quil...@congresolibre.org wrote: This is exactly what FSFE representatives are telling. No. The previous expressions said there was no diference between opensource and the Free Software movement. This expresses they are diferent. No,

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] ConnochaetOS

On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:03:00 -0800 (PST) Jason Self ja...@bluehome.net wrote: The exception is calling themselves open source rather than free software but RMS said on this list that we don't make upholding our political views a condition of our endorsement. Like I said before, I as

[GNU-linux-libre] ConnochaetOS 0.9.1 released

I am announcing the release of ConnochaetOS 0.9.1. This is a maintenance release. The ConnochaetOS 0.9.0 ISO was downloaded 20,000 times. The Free Software Foundation examined every package very closely and said, that we meet the FSF' criteria at this point. So we consider that the ConnochaetOS

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Time to recheck Chromium?

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:14:44 +0200 Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012, Karl Goetz wrote: looking forward to more opinions. For consistency sake, which version did you check? oh sorry forgot to include that, I've been scrolling through licensing notices in

[GNU-linux-libre] Announcement: ConnochaetOS 14.1 beta 3

As of Easter 2015 ConnochaetOS has resurrected. After a nearly 3 year death period I decided to bring ConnochaetOS back to life. ConnochaetOS is a free/libre GNU/Linux distribution for x86 computers with limited ressources. This means it contains only free software and follows the spirit of the

[GNU-linux-libre] Libre version of Mozilla programs / slack-compatible repo

Hi, I've managed to create libre versions of the Mozilla programs Icecat, Icedove and Iceape and made them available in the slack-n-free repo at connochaetos.org. This wouldn't have been possible without the work of other people, especially from Parabola and Mageia. You are welcome to adopt

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] In search of FSDG certification

Hello, I think the name "FreeSlack" may be in conflict with the FSDG: "We will not list a distribution whose name makes confusion with nonfree distributions likely. For example, if Foobar Light is a free distribution and Foobar is a nonfree distribution, we will not list Foobar Light. This is

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] seamonkey & thunderbird versus FSDG

Hello, On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 10:00:04PM -0700, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > Dear Rubén and all of you folks, I have a hypothetical question. > > I've been looking around for a FSDG-compliant versions of seamonkey and > thunderbird, and I am not finding anything current. Am I missing anything? It

[GNU-linux-libre] ConnochaetOS 14.2 RC1

ConnochaetOS 14.2 RC1 has been released. This is the first release candidate of upcoming ConnochaetOS 14.2. ConnochaetOS is a fully free/libre, though not (yet) endorsed by the FSF, GNU/Linux distribution for x86 computers with limited resources, based on Slackware and Salix OS. "Fully free"

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FreeSlack: In search of FSF certification

Hello, On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 06:26:12PM -0700, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > We are very excited to announce an RC1 of FreeSlack 14.2. Since we spoke last > time, we purged mozilla firefox, mozilla thunderbird, and seamonkey, leaving, > as far as we can tell, nothing else that would violate FSDG.

[GNU-linux-libre] xorg-fonts (was:FreeSlack: In search of FSF certification)

Hi, On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 01:15:51PM -0700, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > I have hard time figuring out the license for these: > > font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1.txz > font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1.txz > > No-mod clause is present in these: > >

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] xorg-fonts (was:FreeSlack: In search of FSF certification)

On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:58:01AM +0200, Henry Jensen wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 01:15:51PM -0700, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > > > I have hard time figuring out the license for these: > > > > font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1.txz > >

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FreeSlack: In search of FSF certification

Hi, On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 09:59:46AM -0700, Ivan Zaigralin wrote: > Thanks! I can confirm the fonts. And actually, other Luxi fonts share the > same > license, so they are all as good as gone. Which other luxi fonts do you mean exactly (name of packages)? >

[GNU-linux-libre] ConnochaetOS 14.2 released

I am proudly announcing ConnochaetOS 14.2, based on Slackware and Salix 14.2. As always it contains only free/libre software as defined by the Free Software Foundation (FSF). We are now using our own deblobbed Linux kernel, named "kernel-free" based on the de-blobbing mechanism done by Debian

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] gnu.org "Free GNU/Linux distributions" list updates

Am 4. August 2017 17:03:43 MESZ schrieb bill-auger : > connochaetos has had a >stable version for years and has been on this waiting list since 2010 >but i have not communicated with anyone from that group personally so >it >is not clear to me if they even know they

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] gnu.org "Free GNU/Linux distributions" list updates

Hello Jean, Am Sun, 6 Aug 2017 11:02:20 +0300 schrieb Jean Louis : > I know there is email address for licensing, > webmasters are webmasters. Yes, but the page clearly states: "If you maintain a distibution that follows the Free System Distribution Guidelines and would like

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Reviewing ConnochaetOS

Hi Jason, Am Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:06:59 -0700 (PDT) schrieb "Jason Self" : > J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > > I see on https://connochaetos.org/wiki/ that ConnochaetOS "is > > available for x86 (32 bit) only" and directs users looking for an > > x86_64 libre Slackware GNU/Linux

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] gnu.org "Free GNU/Linux distributions" list updates

Am Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:00:20 -0500 schrieb "J.B. Nicholson" : > - there could be resource limitations involved here too: I see on > https://connochaetos.org/wiki/ that ConnochaetOS "is available for > x86 (32 bit) only" and directs users looking for an x86_64 libre >

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Reviewing ConnochaetOS

Am 7. August 2017 03:40:08 MESZ schrieb Jason Self <j...@jxself.org>: >Henry Jensen <hjen...@mailbox.org> wrote .. >> This was an error by me, I did not update the symlink to the source, >> which is located at >> https://connochaetos.org/slack-n-free/slack-n-f

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Reviewing ConnochaetOS

Am 7. August 2017 02:45:35 MESZ schrieb bill-auger >regarding the debianized kernel itself - other users on this list are >far more knowledgeable on it's inner workings than i, so i wont add >much >about that - except to say that if the only problem is some log files >that very few people will

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] PureOS added to endorsed distro list - what about the kernel?

Hi Zlatan, Am Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:41:01 +0100 schrieb Zlatan Todoric : > I will not read into thread but I can also add this: Debian kernel > itself doesn't contain non-free firmware at all (they are separate > packages in non-free repo that we sync too). Debian does

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity

Am 4. April 2018 17:58:51 MESZ schrieb KRT Listmaster : . > >I will try some newer versions of Qt5 as well as a newer version of >QupZilla just to see if there are any differences. However, from my >preliminary investigations, I would be willing to say that

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity

Am Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:58:54 -0400 schrieb bill-auger : > how exactly was this issue resolved? the issue title seems spot on but > that patch does not even attempt to address the FSDG issue of the blob > name - it is exactly the solution the connochaetos proposed last

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity

Am Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT) schrieb "Jason Self" : > We're going in circles. We had that discussion before. I pointed to > the earlier messages on this mailing list where RMS had said it > amounted to that in our earier conversation, and how > PureOS was probably an

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] DSFG in perpetuity

Am Mon, 26 Mar 2018 07:31:56 -0700 (PDT) schrieb "Jason Self" : > But, if you want a response, the FSDG contains a prohibition to not > steer users towards obtaining any nonfree information for practical use, > or encouraging them to do so. It depends on how you define "to

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] what of the distros that have already asked for consideration or have been partially evaluated?

Hi Donald, ConnochaetOS maintainer here Am Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:57:43 -0400 schrieb Donald Robertson : > connochaetos had a much longer discussion, and I believe is still > interested in endorsement (I will doublecheck that), but had an > outstanding issue that the list felt

[GNU-linux-libre] Freeslack website (was: what of the distros that have already asked for consideration or have been partially evaluated?)

Hi, I just visited the website of freeslack and noted there is a link to Eric Hameleers website right on the front page. On his website he does prominently offer and links to several third-party packages, including complete proprietary software, such as Adobe Flash Player. Since this website is