Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Hyperbola: Does not encourage users to use or install non-free software
Understood. For that I can only speak for myself, so this is just a personal point of view. Every time I was around #hyperbola on IRC, asking for help or speaking to Hyperbola founders & developers they are all very clear on that subject and I have never seen any discussion regarding non-free software their. What I have seen on their mailing list and discussion were always a clear promotion of free software and I don't remember seeing any sentence, help or advises for non-free software. But for sure this is only my experience and this has to be completed with others point of view. On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:16:12AM -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: 2018-05-17T09:31:25-0400 bill-auger wrote: to be clear - the points mentioned in the OP are not really what this criteria is about - this one is less tangible and all-encompassing beyond the actual software that is in the repos or technical safeguards like the blacklist - for examples, all documentation such a wiki page that mentions non-free enhancements or third-party repos, promotional materials, or even mailing list or chat discussions when someone recommends or assists a user to install something non-free I agree with bill-auger here. One of the differences I explain when installing free/libre distros during install fests is that the GNU FSDG also cares to attempt to evaluate the community behind the distro. Of course one is free to use non-free software privately for himself, but please don't go around teaching/recommending/installing/sharing/selling that thing to others. That is: don't put your hands in the fire for that person just to get the "joy" of running non-free software. -- - Formas de contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Ativista do /software/ livre (não confundir com gratuito). Avaliador da liberdade de /software/ e de /sites/. - Arquivos que aceito: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Arquivos - Contribuições à sociedade: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Contributions - Gosta do meu trabalho? Contrate-me ou doe algo para mim! https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Suporte - Use comunicações sociais federadas padronizadas, onde o "social" permanece independente do fornecedor. #DeleteWhatsApp. Use #XMPP (https://libreplanet.org/wiki/XMPP.pt), #DeleteFacebook #DeleteInstagram #DeleteTwitter #DeleteYouTube. Use #ActivityPub via #Mastodon (https://joinmastodon.org/). - #DeleteNetflix #CancelNetflix. Evite #DRM: https://www.defectivebydesign.org/ -- belette signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Hyperbola: Does not encourage users to use or install non-free software
2018-05-17T09:31:25-0400 bill-auger wrote: > to be clear - the points mentioned in the OP are not really what this > criteria is about - this one is less tangible and all-encompassing > beyond the actual software that is in the repos or technical safeguards > like the blacklist - for examples, all documentation such a wiki page > that mentions non-free enhancements or third-party repos, promotional > materials, or even mailing list or chat discussions when someone > recommends or assists a user to install something non-free > I agree with bill-auger here. One of the differences I explain when installing free/libre distros during install fests is that the GNU FSDG also cares to attempt to evaluate the community behind the distro. Of course one is free to use non-free software privately for himself, but please don't go around teaching/recommending/installing/sharing/selling that thing to others. That is: don't put your hands in the fire for that person just to get the "joy" of running non-free software. -- - Formas de contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Ativista do /software/ livre (não confundir com gratuito). Avaliador da liberdade de /software/ e de /sites/. - Arquivos que aceito: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Arquivos - Contribuições à sociedade: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Contributions - Gosta do meu trabalho? Contrate-me ou doe algo para mim! https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#Suporte - Use comunicações sociais federadas padronizadas, onde o "social" permanece independente do fornecedor. #DeleteWhatsApp. Use #XMPP (https://libreplanet.org/wiki/XMPP.pt), #DeleteFacebook #DeleteInstagram #DeleteTwitter #DeleteYouTube. Use #ActivityPub via #Mastodon (https://joinmastodon.org/). - #DeleteNetflix #CancelNetflix. Evite #DRM: https://www.defectivebydesign.org/
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Hyperbola: Does not encourage users to use or install non-free software
to be clear - the points mentioned in the OP are not really what this criteria is about - this one is less tangible and all-encompassing beyond the actual software that is in the repos or technical safeguards like the blacklist - for examples, all documentation such a wiki page that mentions non-free enhancements or third-party repos, promotional materials, or even mailing list or chat discussions when someone recommends or assists a user to install something non-free signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[GNU-linux-libre] Hyperbola: Does not encourage users to use or install non-free software
Hyperbola includes [1]'your-freedom', a package that conflicts with non-free package to ensure the system is free. If I try to install a non-free package the only way is to uninstall "your-freedom" and deliberately renounce keeping the system out of non-free software. Hyperbola also maintains a [2]blacklist that explains why certain packages from Arch are blacklisted and removed from the Hyperbola repos. References: 1.https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/core/any/your-freedom 2.https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/software/blacklist.git/tree -- belette signature.asc Description: PGP signature
