Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Sad, but not recognized as distribution. That's why you have to agree with the common proprietary licenses. They add restrictions like you can only install on one computer, or else no license. But according to David (and yourself?) the license does not apply in

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 11:06 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: Sad, but not recognized as distribution. That's why you have to agree with the common proprietary licenses. They add restrictions like you can only install on one computer, or else no license. But

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license _does_ apply. It applies to the licensee, the company. Not its workers. It is you who don't get it. You are saying that all companies that have illegal copies of Windows, are not breaking the law, Liar. I say no such thing. since

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
The license _does_ apply. It applies to the licensee, the company. Not its workers. The workers are also the licensees. It is you who don't get it. You are saying that all companies that have illegal copies of Windows, are not breaking the law, Liar. I say no such thing.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license _does_ apply. It applies to the licensee, the company. Not its workers. The workers are also the licensees. It is you who don't get it. You are saying that all companies that have illegal copies of Windows, are not

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
It is obviously a waste of my time to continue discussing anything with you. You are obviously incapable of keeping a level headed discussion without resorting to name calling, absurd accusations, and lies. No wonder why Alexander likes you enough to `unplonk' you.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread John Hasler
David Kastrup writes: internal use is defined in corporate laws. It is not necessary to appeal to corporation law. The same rules apply whether you are acting as an employee of IBM or am employee of me. An employee is an agent and acts on behalf of and under the direction of his employer. He

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 12:12:30 +0100 Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The workers are also the licensees. They are not. The company has signed the license. The employees did not sign anything, and hence aren't licensees. For the purposes of the law, a company is a separate entity (a

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: There is a possible loophole here, though it is, I think, of little significance: As part of your job you gain possession of a CD of GPL (or other Free) software. Without the knowledge or permission of your employer you take the CD home and copy it onto a blank CD that you own. if

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
The workers are also the licensees. They are not. The company has signed the license. The employees did not sign anything, and hence aren't licensees. For the purposes of the law, a company is a separate entity (a legal person as opposed to a natural person). You are confusing

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:08:41 -0600 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The owner of the copyright might be able to as his copyright may have been infringed. I'm assuming that he and the employer are different. I don't think that the employer has any claim, though. He still has his property

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:10:25 +0100 Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The workers are also the licensees. They are not. The company has signed the license. The employees did not sign anything, and hence aren't licensees. For the purposes of the law, a company is a

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread David Kastrup
Stefaan A Eeckels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the case of unmodified GPLed software the case is moot, because it can be obtained from a large number of sources and has no intrinsic value. You can't obtain GPLed software commissioned from me before I have finished it. Licensing the software

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: The owner of the copyright might be able to as his copyright may have been infringed. I'm assuming that he and the employer are different. I don't think that the employer has any claim, though. He still has his property and has recourse under employment law for his employee's

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:09:08 +0100 David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefaan A Eeckels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the case of unmodified GPLed software the case is moot, because it can be obtained from a large number of sources and has no intrinsic value. You can't obtain GPLed

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Isaac
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 02:10:10 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The license _does_ apply. It is you who don't get it. You are saying that all companies that have illegal copies of Windows, are not breaking the law, since they are `for internal use' and no rules apply. No one

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-05 Thread Isaac
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:03:42 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What user? I am the only one who uses this computer? I'm not putting any restrictions on anyone. Are you suggesting that you are free to drop by and help yourself to GPL software on my computer?