NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 29 March 2006 NYLUG: Jack Aboutboul on Fedora Core 5

2006-03-27 Thread secretary
From: Ron Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: NYLUG-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:45:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [nylug-talk] NY Linux Users Group Meeting 3/29: Jack Aboutboul on Fedora Core 5 March 29th, 2006 Wednesday 6:30PM-8:00PM IBM Headquarters Building 590 Madison Av

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Merijn de Weerd wrote: > > On 2006-03-25, Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > >> http://www.danwal.com/ > > > > Domain name: DANWAL.COM > > > > Administrative Contact: > > wallace, daniel ... > > Do you enjoy posting other people's address informat

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:59:39 +0100: > David Kastrup wrote: > [...] >> So you feel unable to face the facts. > The fact is that the GPL price-fixes IP at zero. The fact is that zero is > below cost of IP creation and hence is predatory. As for the res

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Merijn de Weerd wrote: > [...] >> Wallace got dismissed because he could not show injury. > > Judge Tinder silently ignored Wallace's argument regarding predatory > pricing which is central to antitrust injury in Wallace's case. The > Judge didn't

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread John Hasler
Merijn writes: > You have yet to show that setting a price at zero is predatory > pricing. Just selling below cost is not by definition predatory. A copyright license has no marginal cost. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___

Re: Commercial code is better: Cedega VS Wine

2006-03-27 Thread Kier
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:20:38 -0600, Linønutlinønut wrote: > After takin' a swig o' grog, Kier belched out this bit o' wisdom: > >>> I think Karl should let RMS post his own responses to Usenet trolls, >>> should he wish to do so. >> >> He's crippled by RSI, I believe, so maybe he prefers to leave

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Wallace_(plaintiff) > > Uh, the case has been closed. Get over it. Not so fast, dear. IIUC Wallace has 30 days to appeal (possible Rule 60 Motion aside for a moment). > > > Poor Dan Tinger. > > How many competing ... Yeah,

Re: Commercial code is better: Cedega VS Wine

2006-03-27 Thread David Kastrup
Linønut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out this bit o' wisdom: > >> In article >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > > (I am posting this on behalf of Richard Stallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], at >>> > > his >>> > > reques

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
John Hasler wrote: > > Merijn writes: > > You have yet to show that setting a price at zero is predatory > > pricing. Just selling below cost is not by definition predatory. > > A copyright license has no marginal cost. Oh dear, no objection. "The ratio of price to marginal cost is meaningles

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
And Wallace said that "the defendants attempt to conflate...". Wallace lost. But given that you just can't grok the concept of "intellectual property" Now you are conflating, Intellectual Property has no legal meaning, it can mean anything and everything. _

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > Completely irrelevant to your previous line of reasoning which you > snipped out again. Really, your smokescreen and quote birdshot > weazeling is most tiresome. You can't cure a wrong argument by What "wrong argument" are you talking about? Your fellow GNUtian ams

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > You really should be more careful with dishing out insults. It makes > yourself look even more ridiculous. One doesn't need a license to create and use private derivative works (adaptations) of GPL'd software. 17 USC 117. So what is your (and your fellow comrade GN

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:42:13 +0100: > Merijn de Weerd wrote: > [...] >> You have yet to show that setting a price at zero is predatory >> pricing. > Wallace on predatory pricing: > --- > Predatory pricing > The GPL establishes a predatory pricin

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > > in "more innovation." > > He said nothing of that sort AFAICT, Fire a search for "more innovation" in http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/WallaceFSFGrantingDismiss.pdf It's right before "See Jason B. Wacha, Taking the Case: Is the GPL Enforceable, 21 Santa Clara Compute

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] > You did not answer the question. Really? Oh dear. How about this: http://www.fsf.org/news/wallace-vs-fsf - The GPL tested in US courts - Wallace Vs FSF. * Send this page to somebody * Print this page The GNU General Public License stands firm. On Monda

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > [...] >> [T]he GPL encourages, rather than discourages, free competition > > Yeah, right. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Wallace_(plaintiff) Uh, the case has been closed. Get over it. > Poor Dan T

Re: Commercial code is better: Cedega VS Wine

2006-03-27 Thread David Kastrup
Linønut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After takin' a swig o' grog, [EMAIL PROTECTED] belched out this bit o' wisdom: > >> (I am posting this on behalf of Richard Stallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], at his >> request. The "I" below is rms.) > > Sure it is. > > And I'm Tony Blair. Actually, the thought "p

Re: Commercial code is better: Cedega VS Wine

2006-03-27 Thread karl
(I am posting this on behalf of Richard Stallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], at his request. The "I" below is rms.) From: "Karen Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Commercial code is better: Cedega VS Wine Date: 7 Mar 2006 16:05:39 -0800

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 12:54 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=1600684464&tid=cald&sid=1600684464&mid=355346 > http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=1600684464&tid=cald&sid=1600684464&mid=355344 > http://finance.messa

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-03-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
First off, I'm surprised. I hope Wallace will appeal. As for "costs"... -- The award of costs is not a penalty but is a method used to reimburse an innocent party for the expenses of litigation. Costs include the payment of court fees for the commencement of the litigation; the submission o