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Developers...
I realize that Linus was never interested in the four freedoms the
GPL was supposed to ensure.
The earliest reference to the four freedoms that I can find is around
1999 (feel free to prove me wrong,
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 09:43 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu:
From groklaw comments to Eben Moglen: A Renewed Invitation to Kernel
Developers...
I realize that Linus was never interested in the four freedoms the
GPL was supposed to ensure.
The earliest reference to the four
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Qua, 2006-10-04 às 23:23 +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt escreveu:
I'm surprised that people haven't found a neat re-read of DMCA as
they have of DRM (at least I haven't seen any yet). I'm not
particularly good at it, but I'll throw a
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
[...]
http://groups.google.com/group/net.micro/browse_thread/thread/9e8efc7fd71be471
The above link is to a post from 1985! Which reprints RMS's article on
That's the GNU Manifesto (original, without footnotes), retard mini-RMS.
GNU, which stands for Gnu's Not
Merijn de Weerd wrote:
[...]
Therefore under German law, once I accept the GPL terms, I have
a right to redistribute GPL-licensed software. However, I can
protest unreasonable or illegal terms in the contract
Not according to Welte's friends at ifross/jbb (Jaeger Co. gang).
Because, they
People are ofcourse allowed to correct themself, and clarify the terms
they use to be clearer. Perfectly clear ideas don't pop up like
mushrooms, not even for Richard.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The web didn't really start with http, there were many other things,
like newsgroups:
There were many other things, but they weren't the web. In the case
of newsgroups, they weren't even the internet.
-- Richard
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
EU Censorship Directive
What does it have to do with censorship? The point was not to
replace one misleading name with a more misleading one.
It isn't misleading, the EUCD (like the DMCA) disallow people from
sharing, a form of
Censorship is about stopping original content being propagated, not
about stopping the propagation of material copyrighted by somebody
else.
Copyrighted material is often original material, DMCA/EUCD stop the
propagation of this material, even if all users have this moral right;
thus,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were many other things, but they weren't the web. In the
case of newsgroups, they weren't even the internet.
Depends very much on what you define as the internet.
I mean the large network running internet
More perspectives...
http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch09.html
(The GNU General Public License)
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Although helpful in codifying the social contract of the Emacs Commune,
the Emacs 15 license remained too informal for the purposes of the
GNU Project, Stallman says. Soon after
There were many other things, but they weren't the web. In the
case of newsgroups, they weren't even the internet.
Depends very much on what you define as the internet.
I mean the large network running internet protocols.
And that depends on what you define as an internet
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were many other things, but they weren't the web. In the
case of newsgroups, they weren't even the internet.
Depends very much on what you define as the internet.
I mean the large network running
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 10:51 +0200, David Kastrup escreveu:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Qua, 2006-10-04 às 23:23 +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt escreveu:
I'm surprised that people haven't found a neat re-read of DMCA as
they have of DRM (at least I haven't seen any yet).
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 11:06 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
[...]
http://groups.google.com/group/net.micro/browse_thread/thread/9e8efc7fd71be471
The above link is to a post from 1985! Which reprints RMS's article on
That's the GNU Manifesto (original,
EU Censorship Directive
What does it have to do with censorship? The point was
not to replace one misleading name with a more misleading
one.
It isn't misleading, the EUCD (like the DMCA) disallow people
from sharing, a form of censorship via
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 17:24 +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt escreveu:
EU Censorship Directive
What does it have to do with censorship? The point was
not to replace one misleading name with a more misleading
one.
It isn't misleading, the EUCD (like the
Alfred, I think even you got confused thanks to your mail client
not attributing quotes.
Urgh, it wasn't the quotes. Just my incapability to read today... I
thought you replied to my message. Sorry for the confusion.
Less caffine, more sleep
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
...
This is censorship.
Why are you disagreeing with me when I agreeing with you? We agree on
what censorship is after all... Confusing to say the least!
Dis Mess Confuses All.
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Rui writes:
Erms... the Internet is now based on IP, as it may be very well based on
something else in the future, and certainly didn't start as IP...
It most certainly did.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were many other things, but they weren't the web. In the case
of newsgroups, they weren't even the internet.
Erms... the Internet is now based on IP, as it may be very well based on
something else in the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote:
Well, it seems a little strange to say it was the internet when it
wasn't called the internet and was based on internet protocols,
Obviously I meant wasn't based on internet protocols.
-- Richard
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Newsgroups were originally distributed by UUCP, and that certainly
wasn't the internet.
Newsgroups (and mail) where distributed using various means. UUCP was
just one of them.
Can we please stop this history revisionism?
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Qui, 2006-10-05 às 10:45 -0500, John Hasler escreveu:
Rui writes:
Erms... the Internet is now based on IP, as it may be very well based on
something else in the future, and certainly didn't start as IP...
It most certainly did.
If I had said ONLY that you could be right. Why distort what
On 2006-10-05, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Censorship is about stopping original content being propagated, not
about stopping the propagation of material copyrighted by somebody
else.
Copyrighted material is often original material, DMCA/EUCD stop the
propagation of
On 2006-10-05, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Merijn de Weerd wrote:
Therefore under German law, once I accept the GPL terms, I have
a right to redistribute GPL-licensed software. However, I can
protest unreasonable or illegal terms in the contract
Not according to Welte's
Merijn de Weerd schrieb:
[...]
Why do you bring up a US doctrine when we're talking German
Talking German? Well, omniscient of heise:
Das Urteil sollte mit der Berufung angegriffen werden.
Das Gericht hat rechtsfehlerhafter Weise die
Prüfung eines Verstoßes von Art.81 EGV u. §1
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 20:04 +0200, Merijn de Weerd escreveu:
On 2006-10-05, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Censorship is about stopping original content being propagated, not
about stopping the propagation of material copyrighted by somebody
else.
Copyrighted material
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 23:09 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escreveu:
Qui, 2006-10-05 às 20:04 +0200, Merijn de Weerd escreveu:
On 2006-10-05, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Censorship is about stopping original content being propagated, not
about stopping the propagation of
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Newsgroups were originally distributed by UUCP, and that certainly
wasn't the internet.
Newsgroups (and mail) where distributed using various means. UUCP was
just one of them.
Can we please stop this history
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