Dom, 2007-05-27 às 14:56 -0500, John Hasler escreveu:
be described as a copyright license. In fact, most copyright licenses
--those between authors and publishers for example-- are contracts as well.
No, there are contracts where authors assign or even sell (in some
jurisdictions) their
mike3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the _goal_ is to ultimately get all software free, since said
freedom is considered a vital right under the GNU philosophy (if not
_the_ core right of the GNU philosophy).
Actually, all software would be unnecessary: the universe of
proprietary software is
So Richard talks explicitly about the _goal_ of the GPL, and he
does this immediately before listing a number of projects that
set out to create proprietary projects, and then were forced by
their use of GPLed software to license them under the GPL.
So the _goal_ is to
You also like David, confuse goal with end result. Yes, the end
result of the GPL does add more free code, since one way to comply is
to release the code under the GPL. But this is is not the goal, the
goal is simply to keep free code free, nothing more, nothing less.
You are not required to
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So Richard talks explicitly about the _goal_ of the GPL, and he
does this immediately before listing a number of projects that
set out to create proprietary projects, and then were forced by
their use of GPLed software to license them
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So Richard talks explicitly about the _goal_ of the GPL, and he
does this immediately before listing a number of projects that
set out to create proprietary projects, and then were forced by
their use of GPLed
So the GNU GPL has been written by a goal different from the goals
of the GNU project and the FSF. Fascinating.
The GNU GPL is a legal document, it cannot insist on everything.
Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you
have the freedom to distribute
Again, no, it is to keep said software free. The GPL does not
require you to distribute; if it did, you'd have a point, but it
doesn't. If the goal of the GNU GPL was to create a larger pool
of free software, then the GNU GPL would require _all_
modifications to become public, but
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
none Byron Jeff wrote:
[...]
Good. Do you see that the extended code is a derivative of the original
GPL code now?
SCO/GNU postulatus 101.
http://www.byte.com/documents/s=8276/byt1055784622054/0616_marshall.html
(SCO
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the GNU GPL has been written by a goal different from the goals
of the GNU project and the FSF. Fascinating.
The GNU GPL is a legal document, it cannot insist on everything.
Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure
So you believe that's not the goal of the GPL simply because the
miniscule percentage of code that's never distributed isn't
required to be distributed?
I do not think it is possible to gauge or even know the percentage of
GPLed code which is being privatized. The NSA could have taken
On May 27, 1:56 pm, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mike3 writes:
But then when does [the Microsoft EULA] become a contract?
A copyright license is anything that grants some of the exclusive rights of
the copyright owner to someone else. Thus it is possible for a contract to
grant a
On May 28, 8:26 am, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra writes:
No, there are contracts where authors assign or even sell (in some
jurisdictions) their copyrights.
That's what I said.
I wrote:
For the Microsoft EULA to be a copyright license as well as a
On May 27, 12:53 pm, mike3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 27, 4:06 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sáb, 2007-05-26 às 17:22 -0700, mike3 escreveu:
On May 26, 5:30 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better yet... Those transcripts usually come
Seg, 2007-05-28 às 12:05 -0700, mike3 escreveu:
Any response?
Please respond, I'd really like to know if I've finally gotten this
understood.
I already said in another email that I think you're starting to get it.
However, the way you write is so convoluted that it is hard for me to
Dom, 2007-05-27 às 11:54 -0700, mike3 escreveu:
On May 27, 4:09 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sáb, 2007-05-26 às 18:44 -0500, John Hasler escreveu:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra writes:
No, the license is not a contract, it is a Copyright License.
He means the
It is about compatibility with other free licenses. Say the
Modified BSD license.
Except that pieces of GPLed programs _can't_ be used in programs
licensed under a different license.
Sure they can. You can use pieces of a GPLed program in a program
that is licensed under the
mike3 writes:
So then Microsoft's agreement is not a good one.
That's up to the parties, isn't it? I certainly would not agree to it but
others are free to do as they please.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
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Seg, 2007-05-28 às 12:00 -0700, mike3 escreveu:
On May 27, 1:56 pm, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mike3 writes:
But then when does [the Microsoft EULA] become a contract?
But I thought the license was too restrictive. Is that just because it
does not
_grant_ as many rights as,
Seg, 2007-05-28 às 12:04 -0700, mike3 escreveu:
And therefore the GPL is more of a copyright license, whereas the MS-
EULA
is more of a contract -- since the MS-EULA _takes away_ rights one
would
otherwise have, whereas the GPL _grants_ rights one would otherwise
_not_ have.
Why... I argue
Seg, 2007-05-28 às 14:43 -0500, John Hasler escreveu:
mike3 writes:
So then Microsoft's agreement is not a good one.
That's up to the parties, isn't it? I certainly would not agree to it but
others are free to do as they please.
What is the freedom (wot?) of others to choose their slaver
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Except that pieces of GPLed programs _can't_ be used in programs
licensed under a different license.
Sure they can. You can use pieces of a GPLed program in a program
that is licensed under the modified BSD license.
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