Re: Endorsing the GNU Social Contract

2020-02-19 Thread Ruben Safir
On 2/17/20 11:33 AM, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > On 2/14/20 8:45 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > >> Thanks for your support. GCC has an FSF appointed steering committee >> which is what we would >> traditionally call the official GNU maintainers for a GNU package. >>

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread Ruben Safir
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:25:33PM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages >stopped developing? Dead, right? > > Software that can be run, studied, redistributed, and modified is in a > state that is strarkly different than matter that

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread Ruben Safir
I'm going to skip over this much of this interesting and valid discussion on metrics and data analysis, which is likely useful if it was in a different context, and get to the more criticle issues > Suppose the current leadership of GNU would respond to your criticism > by showing a schedule full

Freed Software and Gaming

2020-02-19 Thread orbulon--- via General GNU project and free software discussions
While freed software has made a lot of progress in most aspects of computing, I think there ought to be more of a push to encourage it within computer gaming, which is becoming a bigger and bigger part of what people use their computers for. Almost every computer game on the market, both free

Re: GNU Social Contract version 1.0

2020-02-19 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le samedi 15 février 2020, 19:07:36 CET Daniel Pocock a écrit : > Maybe you could call your new group "GNU Europe", But many of them are USAians, aren’t they?

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

2020-02-19 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le mercredi 12 février 2020, 19:50:49 CET Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) a écrit : > On 2020-02-10 07:32, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > There were several pieces of feedback that were either not sent to the > > public list, or are still held up in moderation. > > Maybe that contract should include a

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread DJ Delorie
Jean Louis writes: > * DJ Delorie [2020-02-19 21:01]: >> >> "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes: >> > On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote: >> >> Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages stopped >> >> developing? Dead, right? >> > >> > The

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread Jean Louis
* DJ Delorie [2020-02-19 21:01]: > > "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes: > > On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote: > >> Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages stopped > >> developing? Dead, right? > > > > The immediate effect would become

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread DJ Delorie
"Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes: > On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote: >> Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages stopped >> developing? Dead, right? > > The immediate effect would become more of a stable base for the vast > amount of

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

2020-02-19 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote: Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages stopped developing? Dead, right? The immediate effect would become more of a stable base for the vast amount of material that depends on it. Nothing that depends on GNU Anything would

Re: The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic governance tool

2020-02-19 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2020-02-18 04:55, Ludovic Courtès wrote: As a GNU user, you may not know it but GNU maintainers do not currently agree to uphold the free software values that we care about; they merely This is misleading. The situation is that GNU maintainers can *think* whatever they want, but in the

Re: The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic governance tool

2020-02-19 Thread Christophe Poncy
Hi Ludovic, On 2/18/20 1:55 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > As a GNU user, you may not know it but GNU maintainers do not currently > agree to uphold the free software values that we care about; they merely > agree to more specific GNU policies. > > The Social Contract is a way for interested GNU

Block Ruben Safir - Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]

2020-02-19 Thread Marcel
Thank you Orbulon. I have blocked all of the related domains. I have been very busy while traveling and this incessant spam has been a real nuisance. That I have been forced to block the domain names to stop the spam speaks volumes about the quality of character of this abusive individual.

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-19 Thread orbulon--- via General GNU project and free software discussions
Since the NYLXS mailing list doesn’t seem to respect unsubscribe requests, the only fix I’ve found to this appears to be blocking  hang...@nylxs.com Feb 17, 2020, 05:13 by m...@runbox.com: > The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received > two unsubscribe messages,

Re: Proposals for the new GNU/FSF relationship

2020-02-19 Thread Carlo Wood
The author of this mail belongs the following group: - Ludovic Courtès - Andreas Enge - Carlos O’Donell - Mark Wielaard - Andy Wingo They are the ones behind the gnu.tools domain, which is not affiliated with the GNU project, but do constantly use the phrase "The GNU Project" in a

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-19 Thread Jean Louis
* J.B. Nicholson [2020-02-17 08:39]: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic > > planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. > > If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. That is generalization,

Re: Block Ruben Safir - Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]

2020-02-19 Thread nipponmail
It suddenly stopped for me too, I didn't do anything tho. On 2020-02-19 06:33, Marcel wrote: Thank you Orbulon. I have blocked all of the related domains. I have been very busy while traveling and this incessant spam has been a real nuisance. That I have been forced to block the domain names