Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-23 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Ezekiel z...@somewhere.com wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:29:38 +, Alan Mackenzie it was written: In gnu.misc.discuss amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... You are wrong.

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-23 Thread Doctor Smith
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:03:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: It protects the inventor from having others steal and profit from the invention. Like freetards. I'm in complete agreement that the patent system is issuing too many trivial patents. There's a lot of crap patents out there. Google has

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-23 Thread Ezekiel
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote in message news:gq7t65$2uc...@colin2.muc.de... In gnu.misc.discuss Ezekiel z...@somewhere.com wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:29:38 +, Alan Mackenzie it was written: In gnu.misc.discuss amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-22 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... You are wrong. Patents are simply a means to protect the ideas of innovators from wanton copycatting by others. Sorry, but you are wrong here.

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-22 Thread amicus_curious
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote in message news:gq6hl2$306...@colin2.muc.de... In gnu.misc.discuss amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... You are wrong. Patents are simply a means to protect the ideas

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-22 Thread Ezekiel
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:29:38 +, Alan Mackenzie it was written: In gnu.misc.discuss amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... You are wrong. Patents are simply a means to protect the ideas of

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Roy Schestowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose of this portfolio is defensive .. because of the threats of companies that are hostile to FOSS and that have amassed large stockpiles of overbroad patents' 'Although there

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread amicus_curious
Ezekiel th...@here.com wrote in message news:gq2lda$7q...@reader.motzarella.org... What I recently learned from BN and . Absolutely ridiculous. If you really want to *LEARN* something about Redhat and patents in general why waste your time reading a garbage site like BN? Anyone

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Roy Schestowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / ml2mst on Saturday 21 March 2009 10:34 : \ Roy Schestowitz wrote: / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose of this portfolio is defensive .. because of the threats of companies that are hostile to FOSS

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread amicus_curious
ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... I enjoyed Pieter's comments on BN, but I am pretty confused here. What does it mean, is Redhat becoming another patent troll or am I misinterpreting this? What I recently learned from BN and

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Ahlstrom
After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o' wisdom: Monopoly raises two classes of problems for a free society. First, the existence of monopoly means a limitation on voluntary exchange through a reduction in the alternatives available to individuals. Second, the

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Ezekiel
amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote in message news:49c4e206$0$32040$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com... Ezekiel th...@here.com wrote in message news:gq2lda$7q...@reader.motzarella.org... What I recently learned from BN and . Absolutely ridiculous. If you really want to *LEARN*

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread dr_nikolaus_klepp
amicus_curious wrote: You are wrong. Patents are simply a means to protect the ideas of innovators from wanton copycatting by others. Those who can think of new things to do need to be rewarded or else we will be faced with a steep decline in technological progress. How many copies of

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread amicus_curious
Chris Ahlstrom ahlstr...@launchmodem.com wrote in message news:9q5xl.18551$v8.5...@bignews3.bellsouth.net... After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o' wisdom: Monopoly raises two classes of problems for a free society. First, the existence of monopoly means a

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Doctor Smith
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:27:31 -0400, amicus_curious wrote: Chris Ahlstrom ahlstr...@launchmodem.com wrote in message news:9q5xl.18551$v8.5...@bignews3.bellsouth.net... After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o' wisdom: Monopoly raises two classes of problems for a

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread ml2mst
Roy Schestowitz wrote: / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose of this portfolio is defensive .. because of the threats of companies that are hostile to FOSS and that have amassed large stockpiles of overbroad patents' 'Although there have been some recent

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Ezekiel
ml2mst ml2mstrem...@capsgmail.com wrote in message news:gq2fsa$ap...@news.albasani.net... Roy Schestowitz wrote: / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose of this portfolio is defensive .. because of the threats of companies that are hostile to FOSS and that

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Snit
RonB stated in post op.uq5om9adf7z...@localhost.localdomain on 3/21/09 12:05 PM: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:38:19 -0500, Roy Schestowitz newsgro...@schestowitz.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread ml2mst
Roy Schestowitz wrote: / ml2mst on Saturday 21 March 2009 10:34 : \ Roy Schestowitz wrote: / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \ 'the purpose of this portfolio is defensive .. because of the threats of companies that are hostile to FOSS and that have amassed

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread Roy Schestowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / RonB on Saturday 21 March 2009 19:05 : \ On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:38:19 -0500, Roy Schestowitz newsgro...@schestowitz.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Doug Mentohl on Tuesday 17 March 2009 18:49 : \

Re: Red Hat on patent FUD

2009-03-21 Thread RonB
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:28:40 -0500, Roy Schestowitz newsgro...@schestowitz.com wrote: No, see the following for details: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/03/18/amqp-patents-red-hat/ http://boycottnovell.com/2009/03/21/novl-rht-software-patents/ I too defended Red Hat on this until I discovered