Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-05 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) wrote: > Please keep discussions related to technical issues about the GNU system, > non-free platforms are entierly off-topic for this list. Please note, @gameonli...@redchan.it sent his letter to two m/l: gnu-system-disc...@gnu.org and

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 11/5/19 3:07 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * nipponmail: > >> Getting GNU/Linux onto a laptop these days is quite the difficulty if >> you don't know what you're doing because of Secure Boot. It's not a plug >> and play thing like once it was. Probably discourages alot of users. > > Sure, and

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marcel: > On 11/5/19 4:11 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> The FSF has given out an award in support of Secure Boot-related work, >> so its approach to the matter is rather ambiguous. > > Looking through fsf.org I couldn't find any award in support of "Secure > Boot" related work, would you mind

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* nipponmail: > Getting GNU/Linux onto a laptop these days is quite the difficulty if > you don't know what you're doing because of Secure Boot. It's not a plug > and play thing like once it was. Probably discourages alot of users. Sure, and that was totally predictable. But what can we do

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread nipponmail
I was describing the steps one needs to go through to get a Gnu/Linux system installed on a laptop. I did it a month or two ago. It's not as easy as it was in the past because of secure boot. You must use the pre-installed OS to disable the secure boot: you _cannot_ do it from the bios. On

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread nipponmail
Getting GNU/Linux onto a laptop these days is quite the difficulty if you don't know what you're doing because of Secure Boot. It's not a plug and play thing like once it was. Probably discourages alot of users. Linux doesn't have any security after GrSecurity went proprietary (something that

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jean Louis: > * gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-04 14:05]: >> Windows is required to disable the trusted computing locks in Most new >> laptops. Other than windows there are only a few signed operating systems >> that can be installed without disabling said locks, and they are signed by >>

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Please keep discussions related to technical issues about the GNU system, non-free platforms are entierly off-topic for this list. And in general, all GNU lists. :-)

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Please keep discussions related to technical issues about the GNU system, non-free platforms are entierly off-topic for this list.

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le lundi 4 novembre 2019 15:09:56 CET, vous avez écrit : > * Alexandre François Garreau [2019-11-04 15:00]: > > Purism do not respect users’ freedom: > > https://libreboot.org/faq.html#will-the-purism-laptops-be-supported > > > > Actually they “disable” it, but since it’s proprietary software,

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Jean Louis
* Alexandre François Garreau [2019-11-04 15:00]: > Purism do not respect users’ freedom: > https://libreboot.org/faq.html#will-the-purism-laptops-be-supported > > Actually they “disable” it, but since it’s proprietary software, down to the > cpu, and it still runs proprietary software, you

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le lundi 4 novembre 2019, 14:51:08 CET Jean Louis a écrit : > * gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-04 14:05]: > > Windows is required to disable the trusted computing locks in Most new > > laptops. Other than windows there are only a few signed operating systems > > that can be installed without

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Jean Louis
* gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-04 14:05]: > Windows is required to disable the trusted computing locks in Most new > laptops. Other than windows there are only a few signed operating systems > that can be installed without disabling said locks, and they are signed by > microsoft. That is sad

Re: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto

2019-11-04 Thread Jean Louis
* gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-04 12:25]: > Debian / Devuan installation is very quick and straight-forward, and the > package vrms (inspired by rms) allows one to check if one has non-free > packages. You can set up the full disk encryption off the bat there. In Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre