On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:01 PM Dora Scilipoti wrote:
> You, Carlos O'Donell, and your fellow censor Mark Wielaard, should NOT
> be the moderators of this list. You are both signers of a public
> document that calls for the removal of Richard Stallman as the leader of
> GNU, namel
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:41 PM Brandon Invergo wrote:
> For the past month or so, every message to the list has been subject to
> moderation, so-called "emergency moderation". It has become clear that
> the moderation was being used in a biased manner. We have decided to
> remove Mark and
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 4:02 PM Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> No, or minimal moderation -- as has always been the case for GNU
> lists. It is better to let a off-topic message through, and
> communicate to the user of the case than to reject it. It is better
> to ask the person to use a kinder tone
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:32 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> Nobody believes this except for a few hysterical lunitics. Your
> posting this as such is another form of disinformation and an attack on
> the intelligence of the GNU community.
This is unkind and doesn't contribute to a constructive
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:44 PM Andreas Enge wrote:
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> On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 09:46:56PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > Thanks, Andreas, for this new version! Some comments below.
>
> They are integrated into the attached new version. For good measure,
> I have capitalised "GNU System" as
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:21 AM Carlos O'Donell wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:44 PM Andreas Enge wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 09:46:56PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > > Thanks, Andreas, for this new version! Some comments below.
> >
> >
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 11:00 AM Brandon Invergo wrote:
> In the interest of public transparency and honesty, you should have
> mentioned that Richard has already explicitly and unequivocally rejected
> the proposal for a public, project-wide wiki. Therefore, the following
> question must be
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 2:12 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
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> Carlos O'Donell, 10/12/19 20:25:
> > Selection criteria for a wiki?
>
> It must support multilingualism and have the best-in-class support for
> i18n, which is currently a GNU high priority.
> <https://www
Wikis are useful software that allows developers to work
collaboratively and quickly on informal documents that are part of the
day-to-day running of the packages or project activities.
This includes documenting such things as:
- Email thread summaries
- Status updates
- Meeting notes
- Summaries
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:03 PM Mark Wielaard wrote:
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> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 02:35 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> > Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > > * GNU licenses uphold user freedom
> > >
> > > The GNU Project has designed software licenses to ensure developers
> > > cannot strip off user
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:21 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Mark Wielaard wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:22:48AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> >> Iʼd like to report that my message number d0eidcqu.321...@gmail.com
> >> (below), sent a day ago to
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 6:19 PM Ludovic Courtès wrote:
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> Hi Alfred,
>
> a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) skribis:
>
> > What GNU maintainers agree to is very small, it is only to follow the
> > policies that we have. They don't need to go beyond that, which is
> > what "uphold" would imply.
>
>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:30 PM Florian Weimer wrote:
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> * Carlos O'Donell:
>
> > The GNU C Library main development list was pre-moderated for almost 5
> > years. During that period we moved a lot of conversations to the glibc
> > help mailing list using moderation
I wanted to kick off a conversation about what is a governance model,
and to whom it would apply.
A governance model would apply to all of the people who are part of
the GNU Project, and so discussing these two points makes sense to me.
I look forward to any feedback about this.
What is a
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:21 AM Ruben Safir wrote:
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> On 10/22/19 4:31 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> > That is a different organization model.
>
>
> Yeah, I'm not interested in anything that reduces RMS's influence and
> control of GNU at this point. I think he has been abused and I just
> don't
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 1:55 PM DJ Delorie wrote:
> Even if we all agree on the "big picture simple answer" the details and
> "best practices" are just as important.
>
> Do you have any suggestions for filling in these details?
The day-to-day running of things should certainly be documented
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 9:20 AM Dora Scilipoti wrote:
> Please note that the message posted by a woman on Oct 30 contains a
> repetition of what we all have already read on dishonest media.
Sandra Loosemore posted her opinions for the first time. She didn't
repeat herself.
Cheers,
Carlos.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:29 AM Ruben Safir wrote:
> Just because YOU say he is defending sexual abuse of minors doesn't make
> it so, no matter HOW many times you say it. That is the fact and
> hiding that fact behind charges of sexism is immoral.
Please follow the rules of this list.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 5:22 AM Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> You say we must follow requirements and policies, but yet you
> purposely rejected it when you removed text that was explcitly asked
> to be kept by RMS in the glibc manual. Which is it?
Yes, we must follow requirements and policies.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:18 AM Carlo Wood wrote:
> They are hostile towards the GNU project.
Yes, we are opposed to the current governance structure of the GNU Project.
> Therefore, there is nothing to discuss really. The correct
> thing to do right now is to ignore their attempts to sow
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:49 AM J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> gnu.tools' current domain registrar (namecheap.com)[1] is not the same as
> gnu.org's
> current domain registrar[2] (gandi.net). gnu.tools' owner is not publicly
> listed in
> whois but gnu.org's organizational owner is publicly listed in
Myself and several other GNU Maintainers have been publicly discussing
a GNU Social contract on gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org and what it means to
be a GNU Project volunteer.
We are continuing that discussion by reaching out (by email) to all
GNU Maintainers. We look forward to your feedback! Please
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:16 AM Brandon Invergo wrote:
> Mark Wielaard writes:
>
> >> There is no such thing as a FSF steward, GNU maintainers are appointed
> >> by RMS/GAC. The FSF has no say in the topic. You've keept
> >> misrepresenting this over and over again.
> >
> > This is just a legal
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 2:25 PM Jean Louis wrote:
> Then why did you start in the first place with defamation of GNU
> project and RMS?
Ludovic is asking about what is being written on the mailing list, but
your response is a question about a statement that has nothing to do
with what is being
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:39 AM Daniel Pocock wrote:
> FSF will not change unless somebody gives them a strong reason to change.
>
> For example, if GNU developers write the following email to FSF, that
> will bring change.
>
> Each developer needs to make their own decision if they will send
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 2:58 PM Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
<936-846-2...@kylheku.com> wrote:
> Distros still have old versions of Bison (easily as far as ten years),
> possibly because they have discovered that Bison upgrades are
> radioactive.
In Fedora we update bison at each release.
In
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