Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-15 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: That's assuming Tom-Tom are found guilty. The code would be available on the server. All MS has to do is point it out. As such and in a court of law, it is up to the plaintiff to prove the case not the other way round. Yes. I said if Tom-Tom were found to be

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-15 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: A big problem for Tom-Tom is that, if they lose, they have to pay for the Microsoft effort required to uncover the infringement along with the rest of the legal expenses. Given the uncertainty of a jury decision (remember OJ?) it is a tough decision to make. What

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-15 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: All of the previously shipped Tom-Tom units would have to be recalled or else Tom-Tom would have to pay for a license for them. Wouldn't it be simpler for the endusers to go to the Update Site .. How could Tom-Tom prove that they did? The hammer would be on Tom-Tom

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-15 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:gpj4s7$sc...@news.datemas.de... amicus_curious wrote: That's assuming Tom-Tom are found guilty. The code would be available on the server. All MS has to do is point it out. As such and in a court of law, it is up to the plaintiff

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-03 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: Wouldn't it be simpler for the endusers to go to the Update Site .. How could Tom-Tom prove that they did? The hammer would be on Tom-Tom as an infringer a .. That's assuming Tom-Tom are found guilty. The code would be available on the server. All MS has to do is

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: In Microsoft's case against Tom-Tom, there are a bunch of patents that don't have anything to do with Linux involved as well as the FAT filename patents .. What effect on the case would it be if Tom-Tom eliminated all proprietary software and used a purely GPL

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:47:50AM +, Doug Mentohl wrote: amicus_curious wrote: In Microsoft's case against Tom-Tom, there are a bunch of patents that don't have anything to do with Linux involved as well as the FAT filename patents .. Get real, the Linux kernel supports FAT. What

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:gogh16$6n...@news.datemas.de... amicus_curious wrote: In Microsoft's case against Tom-Tom, there are a bunch of patents that don't have anything to do with Linux involved as well as the FAT filename patents .. What effect on

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread amicus_curious
Vincent vincent.fritt...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gofhco$mi...@news.albasani.net... On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:20:57 -0500, amicus_curious wrote: My own feeling is that the Open Invention Network and the FSF, too, are a bunch of pud knockers without much money in the bank and not much of

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: What effect on the case would it be if Tom-Tom eliminated all proprietary software and used a purely GPL solution? All of the previously shipped Tom-Tom units would have to be recalled or else Tom-Tom would have to pay for a license for them. Wouldn't it be simpler

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-02 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:goh4rf$c8...@news.datemas.de... amicus_curious wrote: What effect on the case would it be if Tom-Tom eliminated all proprietary software and used a purely GPL solution? All of the previously shipped Tom-Tom units would have to

TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread Doug Mentohl
'We reject the claim and will vigorously defend ourselves, TomTom spokesman Taco Titulaer said, adding that Microsoft sent a letter to TomTom's U.S. office informing it of the action' http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINLQ40872620090226?rpc=44 TomTom finances ..

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread 7
Doug Mentohl wrote: 'We reject the claim and will vigorously defend ourselves, TomTom spokesman Taco Titulaer said, adding that Microsoft sent a letter to TomTom's U.S. office informing it of the action' http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINLQ40872620090226?rpc=44 The most

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: Apparently the claim is not without some merit, though. The article goes on to say: Martijn den Drijver, analyst at SNS Securities, said given that TomTom rival Garmin (GRMN.O) has already licensed technology from Microsoft, it s likely that TomTom will settle the

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:goen0a$8v...@news.datemas.de... 'We reject the claim and will vigorously defend ourselves, TomTom spokesman Taco Titulaer said, adding that Microsoft sent a letter to TomTom's U.S. office informing it of the action' Apparently

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:goetik$su...@news.datemas.de... amicus_curious wrote: Apparently the claim is not without some merit, though. The article goes on to say: Martijn den Drijver, analyst at SNS Securities, said given that TomTom rival Garmin

Re: TomTom to contest Microsoft patent lawsuit ..

2009-03-01 Thread Vincent
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:20:57 -0500, amicus_curious wrote: My own feeling is that the Open Invention Network and the FSF, too, are a bunch of pud knockers without much money in the bank and not much of a chance to horn in on this issue. They could try to sue Microsoft for some sort of