Censorship protest relevance (was: Re: Continuation of my previous mail)

2021-05-12 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: -@c Put in by rms. Don't remove. -@cartouche -@strong{Future Change Warning:} Proposed Federal censorship regulations -may prohibit us from giving you information about the possibility of -calling this function. We would be required to say that this is not an -acceptable way

Re: obtaining source with Guix (was: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project)

2021-05-03 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Arun Isaac wrote: In general, I don't find it easy to find source code for package "hello". Don't know what you're talking about. It's very easy to get source code for a package. For example, $ guix build -S hello While we are drifting off-topic for this list, perhaps a more

Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project

2021-05-03 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: [...] Was it me who started split of the GNU project and presented it on this GNU mailing list? Or was it you? On a minor note, there seems to be some confusion here: the discussion was started by "Andreas R. ", while you are replying to "Andreas Enge " on this branch.

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-03-26 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2021-03-25 18:57, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2021-03-24 19:55, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: [...] I now wonder if we may be seeing a different angle of an attack on the GNU project that RMS did not anticipate. I also

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-06 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Martin wrote: In a perfect world if everything is reproducible than all the compilations are deterministic. It means that for a given environment your source code will always produce the same binaries. Briefly DDC method is using mix of different environments in order to analyze the binary

Re: Pentagon linked to shaming attack on RMS

2021-04-06 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-04-03 05:17]: Daniel Pocock wrote: Its all in the last picture Paul Tagliamonte, seconded the motion in Debian, with the co-founder of Rebellion Defense and the top brass at the Pentagon. https://debian.community/paul-tagliamonte-debian-usds

Re: Pentagon linked to shaming attack on RMS

2021-04-07 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Daniel Pocock wrote: Another example below, it shows he is batting for his own side, during business hours. [...] Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Jacob Appelbaum and harrassement Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:53:57 -0400 From: Paul R. Tagliamonte To: Steffen Möller CC: Debian

Re: Pentagon linked to shaming attack on RMS

2021-04-07 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Daniel Pocock wrote: On 03/04/2021 13:55, Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-04-03 05:17]: Daniel Pocock wrote: Its all in the last picture Paul Tagliamonte, seconded the motion in Debian, with the co-founder of Rebellion Defense and the top brass at the Pentagon

Re: police report against the petition mob

2021-04-03 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Daniel Pocock wrote: On 29/03/2021 12:59, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 29/03/2021 02:49, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Daniel Pocock wrote: : host eggs.gnu.org[209.51.188.92] said: 550 bad domain - email sysad...@fsf.org for details (in reply to RCPT TO command) : host eggs.gnu.org

Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-04 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Zany And Crazy wrote: Porting something to the web is not only rewriting from >scratch in JavaScript Isn't WebAssembly a way to make C++ code run in the browser? I thought that's what it was. The API available to WebAssembly code is radically different from the API for native code,

Re: police report against the petition mob

2021-04-04 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Debian Community News Team wrote: [...] Looking at the headers of your message, we see that you sent it on 29 March and the gnu.org (FSF) mailing list only delivered it on 2 April (headers copied below). This shows that somebody in FSF is now checking the messages one by one. No, it shows

Google XMPP service (was: Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders)

2021-04-04 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Martin wrote: On 3/30/21 9:10 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-03-30 11:07]: Back in past, it was possible, and I remember doing so. I have been using Jabber network and I could freely contact Google Plus users through Jabber network and I could freely contact Facebook users through

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-03-25 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2021-03-24 19:55, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Does there appear to be some form of hidden coordination behind these articles? As I understand, RMS always thought that proprietary software companies would make some kind of large legal attack on the GNU

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-03-25 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: RMS didn't like "they" used as a singular, due to issues such as a ambiguities of reference (is the antecedent the two people mentioned, or just the latter?) He invented gender-neutral pronouns and uses them. Those pronouns carry no indication of someone's

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-03-24 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Akira Urushibata wrote: Richard Stallman recently announced at LibrePlanet that he would return to the FSF board. Soon after this announcement, many articles appeared online stating strong objection to his return. Does there appear to be some form of hidden coordination behind these

Re: Google XMPP service

2021-04-06 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-04-03 22:16]: On a side note: talk.google.com still speaks Jabber/XMPP on port 5223. I use it to talk with friends that carry Android devices. The Android messenger app and Hangouts still use Jabber on the backend. How does the username

Re: Pentagon linked to shaming attack on RMS

2021-04-05 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Daniel Pocock wrote: Its all in the last picture Paul Tagliamonte, seconded the motion in Debian, with the co-founder of Rebellion Defense and the top brass at the Pentagon. https://debian.community/paul-tagliamonte-debian-usds-white-house-mob-ringleader/ I do not know where you are

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Colby Russell wrote: [...] Consider this passage from The JavaScript Trap: If the program is self-contained [...] you can copy it to a file on your machine, modify it, and visit that file with a browser to run it. But that is an unusual case. In particular, consider the irony of

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Colby Russell wrote: On 3/15/21 9:02 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: [...] > One of the rationales presented to me (off-list) for this was that a > WebAssembly port of GNU could be run as a web app and therefore be > "always up-to-date" Despite quoting the salient parts from

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
DJ Delorie wrote: [...] You are arguing that we should take away a technology from the user, because some people use that technology in ways you disagree with. However, other people use that same technology in other ways. It is not the technology that is evil, it's how it's used that may be

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: [...] Question is rather if software is free or if one need proprietary programs to run it in WebAssembly. If there is nothing proprietary, we shall encourage creation of software as WebAssembly is there because some people find it useful, we encourage creation of free

Re: Web versions

2021-03-14 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Taylan Kammer wrote: On 06.03.2021 22:30, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: In times like that, I wish I had quick access to some Unix-like environment with helpful tools like netcat and nmap on the client's end. If I could just open a browser on the client's PC and visit a website that boots up a GNU

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-03-16 10:30]: 3. Web apps stored on "the cloud" are bad because they often do not respect the user's freedoms, as even if the software is under Free license terms, technical issues can make running a modified version difficult or

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: 2. Browsers do not offer POSIX API to JS/WebAssembly for very good reasons. The other issue is that it wouldn't really be an operating system, if it runs in a web browser. Which kinda is the whol point of the GNU project. :-) The GNU project also

Re: SSPL or server side public license, GNU better update the AGPL

2021-03-21 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Florian Weimer wrote: * Jean Louis: MongoDB modifies AGPL to this: If you make the functionality of the Program, or a modified version available to third parties as a service, you must make the Service Source Code available via network download to everyone at no charge, under the terms of

Re: Web versions

2021-03-17 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-03-17 05:16]: Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: 2. Browsers do not offer POSIX API to JS/WebAssembly for very goodreasons. The other issue is that it wouldn't really be an operating system, if it runs in a web browser. Which kinda

Re: Web versions

2021-03-06 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Taylan Kammer wrote: On 06.03.2021 17:45, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: I had a suggestion about all the GNU software on your site - since WebAssembly is now a reality, maybe you guys should get to making the browser versions of LL your software? :) WebAssembly, and Javascript

Risks of deterministic builds (was: Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders)

2021-04-07 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Martin wrote: On 4/4/21 11:38 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Martin wrote: In a perfect world if everything is reproducible than all the compilations are deterministic. It means that for a given environment your source code will always produce the same binaries. Briefly DDC method is using mix

Re: Judge declares zoom of iPhone image unacceptable in court

2021-11-15 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Akira Urushibata wrote: A ruling relevant to free software was recently made by a judge presiding over the highly publicized trial of Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin, US. On the night of August 25 2020, Kyle Rittenhouse shot three men with a rifle in Kenosha, Wisconsin during heated

Re: "Freedom" is really the wrong word

2021-11-14 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
dick wrote: There are so many other documented examples of abuses... Again, "freedom" is the wrong word. Your ability to disengage and revert to agrarian asceticism is orthogonal to the perfidy of nonfree software providers. You do understand that the Free Software movement holds a

Re: "Freedom" is really the wrong word

2021-11-04 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
dick wrote: Can nonfree refrain from failing to respect user's freedoms? You present this as an unattributed quote. If this is intended to represent my previous response, it is a dishonest paraphrase. As a direct question, it is a tautology: nonfree software is "nonfree" *because*

Re: "Freedom" is really the wrong word

2021-11-05 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
dick wrote: Got it. Companies aren't upfront about their motives. Got it. Companies maneuver to eliminate competitors, free or otherwise. Heaven forbid capitalist entities should resort to that kind of unconscionable gamesmanship. Dale Carnegie, you've been put on notice. In the meantime,

Re: Shouting into a pillow for nonfree rapprochement

2021-10-29 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
dick wrote: Ah, looking at the sparse and indelicate correspondence here, I guess this is where all the crazies go to shout into the ether. I will try my best to assume that your message was written in good faith and ignorance in writing this reply. *Gratis* and *libre* are the best

Re: cURL author receives rude LogJ4 security inquiry

2022-02-22 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Jean Louis wrote: * Akira Urushibata [2022-02-22 02:23]: [...] So I can see that Linus is giving credits to GNU, GCC, Richard Stallman, and that he did not know nothing about free software before he heard Stallman's speech in Helsinki. Linux kernel was at that time proprietary. He

Re: cURL author receives rude LogJ4 security inquiry

2022-02-21 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Akira Urushibata wrote: Linux is not "operating system", but kernel. I think that most, if not all, list subscribers are aware of that. [...] GNU system existed before the kernel Linux, and once somebody put GNU with any kernel, it is GNU system based on Linux kernel. We have

Re: Free Software and the New Sexism

2023-08-27 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Taylan Kammer wrote: I genuinely care about sexism. The commonly recognized kind, that targets women. The fundamental problem here is that all of the issues these CoC documents are supposed to address are entirely off-topic and inappropriate in a software development context. Sexism,

Re: Free Software and the New Sexism

2023-08-28 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer
Adam Spiers wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 at 05:40, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: The fundamental problem here is that all of the issues these CoC documents are supposed to address are entirely off-topic and inappropriate in a software development context. Sexism, racism, whatever-ism-of-the-day