Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-06 Thread Martin
On 4/4/21 11:38 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Martin wrote: In a perfect world if everything is reproducible than all the compilations are deterministic. It means that for a given environment your source code will always produce the same binaries. Briefly DDC method is using mix of different

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-03 Thread Martin
On 3/30/21 1:38 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-03-30 15:51]: This kind of stories also have some pros. That time Jabber/XMPP network was getting big "free" promotion from Facebook, Google, etc. Nowadays I'm still using Jabber/XMPP and I have zero interest of having fb, g+, etc

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-03 Thread Martin
On 3/30/21 9:10 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-03-30 11:07]: On 3/29/21 12:26 PM, Jean Louis wrote: I do not think that Facebook is freeware software, it is cloud service provider. There are Facebook applications and messengers, maybe you mean those? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-03 Thread Martin
On 3/29/21 12:26 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-03-29 13:57]: From the paragraph above, I can see you did not get the difference between the free software and open souce. And your analogy is not right. You mentioned price not freedom. I know that gnu definition and in general I'm on your

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-03 Thread Martin
On 3/28/21 6:47 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * shulie [2021-03-27 21:28]: On 3/24/21 10:55 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: As I understand, RMS always thought that proprietary software companies would make some kind of large legal attack on the GNU project, no - this is just how the extreme left works

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-04 Thread Martin
On 3/30/21 7:10 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-03-30 19:58]: You may, but we don't, as it is vague term. On GNU website, we never use "open source" to refer to free software, as we have to promote freedom. what's your definition of freedom then? For me both cases are n

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-19 Thread Martin
On 4/13/21 8:20 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Martin [2021-04-13 20:41]: Live-bootstrap (still under early development state at the moment) is a pure bare metal project aiming to be used before involving any OS. Kernel blobs are out of scope for them, because linux-kernel in general is not capable

Re: Risks of deterministic builds (was: Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders)

2021-04-08 Thread Martin
On 4/6/21 7:40 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-04-06 05:39]: Exploits are easier to develop when hardcoded offsets, virtual addresses, etc. can be used. In a "binary monoculture" environment, that is possible. This contributes to and worsens security problems in proprietary

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-08 Thread Martin
On 4/5/21 5:52 PM, Jean Louis wrote: I do understand the strive to perfectionism and there are projects like Guix which strive to reach the point you are talking. Maybe such projects can become bootstrapping distributions for other distributions which cannot or did not reach that far yet. Guix

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

2021-04-14 Thread Martin
On 4/12/21 4:53 PM, Jean Louis wrote: Guix is nice but at the moment it requires Guile(approx 20mb of binaries) to bootstrap itself. Better solution is https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap - there are even plans to integrate it with Guix directly, Debian and many other projects. That is

Re: using GPL api to be used in a properietary software

2005-03-13 Thread Martin Dickopp
of a dynamic library just because this case is not properly covered by a non-limitative list of illustrations. Martin ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: using GPL api to be used in a properietary software

2005-03-14 Thread Martin Dickopp
to circumvent the GPL have prevailed in court. Martin ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: using GPL api to be used in a properietary software

2005-03-14 Thread Martin Dickopp
proven that pedestrians are allowed to ignore traffic lights at will, right? Martin ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: using GPL api to be used in a properietary software

2005-03-17 Thread Martin Dickopp
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Case closed. You really seem to believe that your statements somehow become correct if you try to behave like a judge. Martin ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org

Re: Web versions

2021-03-14 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
soning behind the necessity for a mechanism in the case of web applications (JS/WA or otherwise) is well explained in the article. Seeing the OP, initially I thought it was completely uncontroversial to add a compilation target such as WA to a gnu package if there is a use case for it. Especially sin

Re: Web versions

2021-03-14 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 13. Mar 2021, at 16:48, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > > Sounds like multi-user UNIX-like system, or modern GNU/Linux > multi-user system. > > On a multi-user system you can keep your own files in our home > directory. You can decide to copy a program you like from one > location to your

Re: Web versions

2021-03-14 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 14. Mar 2021, at 12:57, Schanzenbach, Martin > wrote: > > > >> On 13. Mar 2021, at 16:48, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >> >> Sounds like multi-user UNIX-like system, or modern GNU/Linux >> multi-user system. >> >> On a multi-

Re: Web versions

2021-03-16 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 16. Mar 2021, at 06:07, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: > > Colby Russell wrote: >> On 3/15/21 9:02 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: > [...] >> > One of the rationales presented to me (off-list) for this was that a >> > WebAssembly port of GNU could be run as a web app and therefore be >> > "always

Re: Web versions

2021-03-11 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
er without falling into the JS trap?? BR Martin > On 9. Mar 2021, at 15:01, Taylan Kammer wrote: > > On 08.03.2021 18:59, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: >> Taylan Kammer wrote: >>> On 06.03.2021 22:30, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: >>> In times like that, I wish I had quick &