Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-10 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Frederico, On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 01:48:28AM +0200, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > I'd like to stress a passage which made me think quite a bit: > > > We have never > > pressed contributors to endorse the GNU Project philosophy, or any > > other philosophical views, because people are welcome

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-10 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 17:24, Carlo Wood said: > So, I think all of this can be summarized as a small group of > two maybe three people who started a new website and are trying There are more than three people who disagree with the way the GNU project is currently managed. Except for signing the

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Mark Wielaard [2020-02-08 10:24]: > A GNU wiki to support this process was requested by several GNU > maintainers. So we did ask the FSF to setup a public space for this. > To have a neutral place for the GNU community as a whole to have a > public discussion. But they told us that they don't

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-09 Thread Ruben Safir
- Ludovic Court??s - Andreas Enge - Carlos O???Donell - Mark Wielaard - Andy Wingo <> This is inapropriate use of GNU resources and it is intended to create an air of authority that they do not have. BAN THEM On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 04:08:36PM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> You make the assumption that the views of the maintainers are the > views of the GNU project -- this has never been the case. GNU > maintainers do not define what the GNU project is. Because we are all code monkeys, aka programming slaves. As long as we do what we're told we

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Mark Wielaard isn't a moderator for the gnu-misc-discuss list.

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread John Darrington
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 11:57:45AM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > > You make the assumption that the views of the maintainers are the > > views of the GNU project -- this has never been the case. GNU > > maintainers do not define what the GNU project is. > >

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread DJ Delorie
a...@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > You make the assumption that the views of the maintainers are the > views of the GNU project -- this has never been the case. GNU > maintainers do not define what the GNU project is. Because we are all code monkeys, aka programming slaves. As long as we

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 20:51:49 +0100 Mark Wielaard wrote: > Many people already gave feedback on it and we do hope that it does > match as closely as possible. If you still believe it doesn't entirely > accord with the GNU Project's views then please do suggest wording > changes. We hope to combine

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On 2/7/20 2:51 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > As you know since the FSF asked for feedback on the relationship > between the FSF and GNU As you know is the biggest indicator of lies and deceit to follow than any other phrase in English or any other language. It is followed by, "As we can all

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-08 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
You make the assumption that the views of the maintainers are the views of the GNU project -- this has never been the case. GNU maintainers do not define what the GNU project is. Seeing that you are not representative of the GNU project, you are not in a position to say what is or is not

Re: What's GNU -- and what's not

2020-02-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Richard, On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 01:36:07AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 18:26:51 -0500 > From: "Richard Stallman (Chief GNUisance)" > To: r...@gnu.org > Subject: What's GNU -- and what's not > > The GNU Project is sending this message to each GNU package >