Re: posts by non-members
Hi Brandon, Brandon Invergo skribis: > Ludovic Courtès writes: > >> I’ve subscribed now, but I do find it a bit inconvenient; it’s also one >> of the few public GNU mailing lists I know of (perhaps the only one) >> where posting is now restricted to members. > > Ok upon further thought I'm convinced that the list-members-only rule > wasn't a good one due to the other ways people are accessing the list > that I hadn't considered. So, nevermind, back to the way things were. > Sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused. Neat, thank you! Ludo’.
Re: posts by non-members
Ludovic Courtès writes: > I’ve subscribed now, but I do find it a bit inconvenient; it’s also one > of the few public GNU mailing lists I know of (perhaps the only one) > where posting is now restricted to members. Ok upon further thought I'm convinced that the list-members-only rule wasn't a good one due to the other ways people are accessing the list that I hadn't considered. So, nevermind, back to the way things were. Sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused. -- -brandon
Re: posts by non-members
Ludovic Courtès writes: > As you’ve probably seen in your moderator queue :-), I’m a former > non-member: I used to read via Gmane.org, and thus posting as a > non-member. Some of my previous messages are lost in limbo, it seems. > > I’ve subscribed now, but I do find it a bit inconvenient; it’s also one > of the few public GNU mailing lists I know of (perhaps the only one) > where posting is now restricted to members. > > No big deal, but I thought I’d mention my use case. Noted, thanks. I may reverse this policy. I will have a think and I'll discuss it with Mike. -- -brandon
Re: posts by non-members
Hi again, Brandon Invergo skribis: > On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 13:53 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: >> >> In general it is somewhat inconvenient if you can only post to the >> list from the address with which you are subscribed. > > In practice, with only one or two exceptions from what I have seen so far, > this > would only affect people whose messages tend to be rejected for content > anyway. > > If anyone is particularly inconvenienced by this change and they genuinely > intend to contribute to the discussion, they are welcome to get in touch. I > can > either make a (mental) exception or we can find an alternative solution for > them. For example, you can change your account settings in Mailman not to > send > messages to your "sending only" account. As you’ve probably seen in your moderator queue :-), I’m a former non-member: I used to read via Gmane.org, and thus posting as a non-member. Some of my previous messages are lost in limbo, it seems. I’ve subscribed now, but I do find it a bit inconvenient; it’s also one of the few public GNU mailing lists I know of (perhaps the only one) where posting is now restricted to members. No big deal, but I thought I’d mention my use case. Ludo’.
Re: posts by non-members
On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 13:53 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > In general it is somewhat inconvenient if you can only post to the > list from the address with which you are subscribed. In practice, with only one or two exceptions from what I have seen so far, this would only affect people whose messages tend to be rejected for content anyway. If anyone is particularly inconvenienced by this change and they genuinely intend to contribute to the discussion, they are welcome to get in touch. I can either make a (mental) exception or we can find an alternative solution for them. For example, you can change your account settings in Mailman not to send messages to your "sending only" account. If things cool down, we can be more lenient again in the future. -brandon
Re: posts by non-members
Hi Brandon, On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 04:40:37PM +, Brandon Invergo wrote: > Please note: until now, we have been lenient about letting through posts by > non- > subscribers to gnu-misc-discuss. In order to reduce the burden of moderation > (and to ensure that all relevant messages are let through without delay), we > shall discard all posts by non-subscribers without any further > consideration. If you want to ensure that your messages get sent to the list, > please subscribe. Again, to stress: this was already the list policy, but now > it will be enforced more strictly. That is a change in list policy. The original list policy, and the one I thought we agreed upon, was that only new posters and people placed explicitly on moderation because of past behaviour would be moderated. New posters, whether subscribed or not, would have their moderation flag removed when shown to post constructively. At least that is the policy of most other GNU mailinglists. There is normally no need to explicitly subscribe to a list. In general it is somewhat inconvenient if you can only post to the list from the address with which you are subscribed. Some people read and post through a nntp news gateway. Some are subscribed with one specific address, but post through a different one. e.g. I am personally not sure whether I am subscribed with my gnu.org or klomp.org address, I guess we will find out once I post this :) Cheers, Mark
