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Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option).
To the gnu-system-discuss mailing list admin: Yes, please. Please ban this gameonlinux person from the gnu-system- discuss mailing list. Hen is polluting that list with rubbish, not remotely relevant to the required content of contributions to this list. Thanks! On Fri, 2019-11-08 at 08:07 -0500, Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system wrote: > This gossip is complete spam or at least off topic! > > > On 11/07/2019 10:37 PM, gameonli...@redchan.it wrote: > > I will now explain the ideas which the proud White American Man, > > who is the coreboot developer, means to convey:
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - CoreBoot Dev weighed in. - Translations
This gossip is complete spam or at least off topic! On 11/07/2019 10:37 PM, gameonli...@redchan.it wrote: > I will now explain the ideas which the proud White American Man, who > is the coreboot developer, means to convey: > > He feels that you on the coasts are all homosexuals who should be > physically eradicated from this earth; he is confident that such will > happen. > > He feels that I am a foreigner, perhaps a muslim, and that foreigners > wish to have sexual relations with female children, like "pedo > muhammed" did. > > The proud American White Man, the coreboot developer, feels that all > muslims should be killed, and certainly should not be welcome in his > America. The reasons he feels that muslims should be killed is because > his minor-god: Jesus, said in the Kings English once "Better a > Millstone", regarding "the offending of children", additionally his > true-god: white woman, is disadvantaged by men marrying young girls. > > > [(Note: the "Better a millstone" passage in the new testament is > about the Apostles making new-believers feel unwelcomed, so they were > told that anyone that causes a little-one, like this child, to stumble > (in his path towards belief in what Jesus was saying), it would be > better for that person to be drowed via an expensive piece of capital > (the people being drowned would be the apostles), and it was written > in greek, a language white american men spurn: In this Jesus also > looked forward in time, somehow, and rejected American Capitalism (the > capital good would be lost), and American White Protestantism (which > does exactly what he campaigned against)) > (Later the same passage was used to slaughter non-catholics, > before the American Whites chose to use it to torture, castrate, and > murder men who even hint at liking pretty young girls)] > > The White American Man also feels that the Old Testament (Torah) > Jewish God is "the devil", and was rejected by Jesus when Jesus told > The Jews: your father is the devil: a liar an murderer from the > beginning. With such; the White American Coreboot developer rejects > all the pro-marry-female-children laws and arguments from the Torah. > > The White American Corebooter feels that the only permissible way of > life is thus: > The man Respects and Honours the White Ayran Wuuhhmmahhhnn (as he > reverently refers to her). > The man Labours to support the White Aryan Wuuuhhmmahhhnnn. > The man Protects and Dies for the White Aryan Wuuuhhmmahhnn. > The man Eradicates all foes of the White Aryan Wummahhhnn. > > His creed, and the creed of virtually all white males can be summed up > as follows: >> "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the >> earth." > > No paedophile marriage with pretty young girls: that does not benefit > the Wumaann. > Yes to men being wage slaves, having only one bride, and being > disposable pawns to be used at her whim. > That is the white american way. > > > > > On 2019-11-07 17:15, gameonli...@redchan.it wrote: >> [A coreboot developer weighed in yesterday, on the technology section >> of the 4chan japanese artwork appreciation website, I am posting his >> opinion here for completeness sake] >> ( rbt.asia/g/thread/73465220/#q73465421 ) >> >> Quote: >>> some nobody from a literally who country is using tranny software as >>> a vehicle to rant about americans >> I'm a white American that maintains a couple Coreboot ports. I've been >> saying this for years that the tranny does zero work and steals our >> code and rebrands it. This idea is nothing new. Furthermore, the >> costal sodomites and their "culture" are not representative of all >> Americans. They are a relatively new phenomenon that came out of the >> drug fueled baby boomer decadence of the 60s and 70s. These >> degenerates are relics of a bygone era and in the coming decades they >> will be stamped into the dirt by a conservative revolution that kicked >> off around 2010-2012. > -- https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - CoreBoot Dev weighed in. - Translations
I will now explain the ideas which the proud White American Man, who is the coreboot developer, means to convey: He feels that you on the coasts are all homosexuals who should be physically eradicated from this earth; he is confident that such will happen. He feels that I am a foreigner, perhaps a muslim, and that foreigners wish to have sexual relations with female children, like "pedo muhammed" did. The proud American White Man, the coreboot developer, feels that all muslims should be killed, and certainly should not be welcome in his America. The reasons he feels that muslims should be killed is because his minor-god: Jesus, said in the Kings English once "Better a Millstone", regarding "the offending of children", additionally his true-god: white woman, is disadvantaged by men marrying young girls. [(Note: the "Better a millstone" passage in the new testament is about the Apostles making new-believers feel unwelcomed, so they were told that anyone that causes a little-one, like this child, to stumble (in his path towards belief in what Jesus was saying), it would be better for that person to be drowed via an expensive piece of capital (the people being drowned would be the apostles), and it was written in greek, a language white american men spurn: In this Jesus also looked forward in time, somehow, and rejected American Capitalism (the capital good would be lost), and American White Protestantism (which does exactly what he campaigned against)) (Later the same passage was used to slaughter non-catholics, before the American Whites chose to use it to torture, castrate, and murder men who even hint at liking pretty young girls)] The White American Man also feels that the Old Testament (Torah) Jewish God is "the devil", and was rejected by Jesus when Jesus told The Jews: your father is the devil: a liar an murderer from the beginning. With such; the White American Coreboot developer rejects all the pro-marry-female-children laws and arguments from the Torah. The White American Corebooter feels that the only permissible way of life is thus: The man Respects and Honours the White Ayran Wuuhhmmahhhnn (as he reverently refers to her). The man Labours to support the White Aryan Wuuuhhmmahhhnnn. The man Protects and Dies for the White Aryan Wuuuhhmmahhnn. The man Eradicates all foes of the White Aryan Wummahhhnn. His creed, and the creed of virtually all white males can be summed up as follows: "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." No paedophile marriage with pretty young girls: that does not benefit the Wumaann. Yes to men being wage slaves, having only one bride, and being disposable pawns to be used at her whim. That is the white american way. On 2019-11-07 17:15, gameonli...@redchan.it wrote: [A coreboot developer weighed in yesterday, on the technology section of the 4chan japanese artwork appreciation website, I am posting his opinion here for completeness sake] ( rbt.asia/g/thread/73465220/#q73465421 ) Quote: some nobody from a literally who country is using tranny software as a vehicle to rant about americans I'm a white American that maintains a couple Coreboot ports. I've been saying this for years that the tranny does zero work and steals our code and rebrands it. This idea is nothing new. Furthermore, the costal sodomites and their "culture" are not representative of all Americans. They are a relatively new phenomenon that came out of the drug fueled baby boomer decadence of the 60s and 70s. These degenerates are relics of a bygone era and in the coming decades they will be stamped into the dirt by a conservative revolution that kicked off around 2010-2012.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - CoreBoot Dev weighed in.
[A coreboot developer weighed in yesterday, on the technology section of the 4chan japanese artwork appreciation website, I am posting his opinion here for completeness sake] ( rbt.asia/g/thread/73465220/#q73465421 ) Quote: some nobody from a literally who country is using tranny software as a vehicle to rant about americans I'm a white American that maintains a couple Coreboot ports. I've been saying this for years that the tranny does zero work and steals our code and rebrands it. This idea is nothing new. Furthermore, the costal sodomites and their "culture" are not representative of all Americans. They are a relatively new phenomenon that came out of the drug fueled baby boomer decadence of the 60s and 70s. These degenerates are relics of a bygone era and in the coming decades they will be stamped into the dirt by a conservative revolution that kicked off around 2010-2012.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option).
gameonli...@redchan.it wrote: > and the Libreboot "maintainer" has seemingly no will to update the project, > and no technical ability to work around the problems Iʼm afraid, that you have developed a strong prejudice against Leah for some reason. > The "maintainer" in the past attacked the FSF and RMS for some emotional > issue [s]he was having. Presumably, for that reason. I suggest you to import the archives of libreplanet-disc...@libreplanet.org since September [0] and read though her posts there — IIRC, she addressed this bygone issues in the light of the recent events around RMS. [0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/mbox/libreplanet-discuss/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
On 2019-11-06 21:56, Ian Bentley wrote:
I am subscribed to this list to keep abreast of the system discussion,
not vitreous ranting. Take it elsewhere.
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{Vitreous sponge} (Zool.), any one of numerous species of
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Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
I’m pretty much sure the old religions, especially some popular branches of Islam and Christianism condemn what you say about women. You're wrong. Islam explicitly allows men to marry female children. Bukari Hadith book 5 Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236 Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64 Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151 The 5th book of the Torah, the last law book, Devarim, EXPLICITLY commands child marraige, including in cases of rape (tahpas): Devarim chapter 22, verse 28. Relevant words: Hebrew masoretic text: Na'ar (child) (>Nachmanides points out that a child may be called na'ar from the moment he is born. ) Greek septuagint: Padia (child, padia+philos = paedophillia) Latin vulgate: Puella (young girl) The Vedic traditions have laws that state that if a father fails to marry his girl off by 9 or 12 he goes to a hell. This shows that you do not know what you think you know, you just spout the Americanisms you were told, without reading the original texts in their own languages. Christianity is simply a heretical pro-woman, anti-male religion run by Americans. The Sunni Islamics will destroy the American religion eventually, no matter what that requires, and we will marry cute young girls again, nomatter what is required to effect that change. That freedom. On 2019-11-06 22:32, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: Le mercredi 6 novembre 2019 22:49:07 CET, vous avez écrit : The man is no a eunich, but he is not a woman (since he cannot have children). So you go under M. Garisson definition of a women, according which sterile cissexual (that is non-transsexual) “women” are actually “men”, and any man dating whoever is not able to get pregnant is being gay? Does that also apply to hormonal contraception? Does it mean a woman taking the pill is a man? Damn, trans men must be happy of this consideration x) At least it’s easy to become a man through surgery, according your definitions. Sooo did you check all women you had sex with are fertile? there are common affections that make women sterile. Maybe you have been having gay sex without knowing it. A woman without a womb Actually if you looked well at the photos, she has one. That’s the goal of sex reassignment surgery. is like a broken compiler: it's not a compiler: just the pieces that could have been one. Same with a man without genitals. If you believe the only purpose of a human is to give birth, “make love not war” and stop bothering people on mailing lists. But afaik, according your definitions… you can’t (give birth). But wait… you were defending pedophilia… but a prepubere girl can’t get pregnant… so… what’s the point of it? I mean, having sex with a prepubere girl and with a transsexual woman is biologically just the same: it can’t give birth. In america it is lauded when men have their genitals chopped off. No, many americans are transphobic too. And most of them are neither supporters of transgender rights, nor transphobes, but don’t care. Like everywhere actually. But when a man might hint at the wish to marry adorable young girls: america wants to kill and torture him. Sadly, yet you’re doing nothing to help but more harm, because nobody allies with your views and you’re not trying to understand a fuck. The old religions I’m pretty much sure the old religions, especially some popular branches of Islam and Christianism condemn what you say about women. And the libreboot maintainer is a Eunich, NOT a woman - a he or a neuter. An eunuch is a man without genitals. But she has (female) genitals, female levels of hormone, looks like a woman, and by the virtue of “if it’s all like a duck, it’s a duck” she’s a woman. period. you just draw essentialism for the rest. I doubt [she]'ll ever contribute anything much more after having [her] balls sliced off of his body. They usually lose the will. Loss of testosterone imply indeed small depression and loss of will. That’s why in sex reassignment we gives hormone including testosterone and female sexual hormones, so the will come back ;) and without the depression coming with gender dysphoria. I think she works on other stuff. LibreBoot is worked on by other people now.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
* gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-07 05:18]: > The man is no[w] a eunich is what I ment to type. I did type it later in the > post. My definition is the anti-american definition. GNU project is about free software and is welcoming everybody. Please respect people. > Men are men. Women are women. Women who cannot have children are broken > women. Men with their genitals sawn off (with proof posted to their own > website) are Euniches. Please respect people. I do not share your opinion and those opinions do not matter for GNU project, contributions are welcome from everybody. Do you have some constructive proposal how to help GNU? See here what is needed and wanted: https://www.gnu.org/help/help.en.html Jean
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Local politics in Software
* gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-07 03:33]: > If they are able to call for RMS' removal from his OWN project (and yes: GNU > is _his_ project), and they have threads on this that go on for centuries on > -devel lists, and this is fine (it is seen as fine), then they have already > opened the door. It is my impression that public shamings on his own GNU project is tolerated by RMS for the reasons as explained here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html Purpose The GNU Project encourages contributions from anyone who wishes to advance the development of the GNU system, regardless of gender, race, ethnic group, physical appearance, religion, cultural background, and any other demographic characteristics, as well as personal political views... RMS fighted for free software for decades and he is the one sticking to those GNU Kind Communication Guidelines better than each of us. That is why there is so much tolerance. It is my personal opinion and not any kind of representation of GNU/RMS viewpoints, that purpose of creating more free software is more important than the public shamings page that Guix leaders have published, and so no harsh actions have been imposed. Somebody else would not be as RMS, somebody else, of a different character could easily sue them for defamation and bring them to court, which would ruin the Guix project and probably cause a political fork of it which is not wanted condition. To make those management decisions is not easy task. One has to carefully weigh the good and bad that is created by Guix, and as of now, in my opinion, there is more good than bad, finally, public opinion of their Guix' public shamings page is disapproving their statements, and RMS is not guilty of any crime. I could say that there is no perfect marriage and divorces could be costly.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
* gameonli...@redchan.it [2019-11-07 03:22]: > Why did you edit my words of he (the libreboot maintain is a man: who had Those types of descriptions of people's bodies are not subject of GNU project. That is hurting those who are going difficult times, even if they don't, mentioning somebody's private life issues is simply not welcome in civilized world. Your writings made me very sad. It is not relevant for anything related to GNU. GNU project is welcoming everybody. Please do not publicly shame a person on these mailing lists. It is official stance of GNU project not to discriminate against everybody. Purpose is to encourage more contributions: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html Quote: The GNU Project encourages contributions from anyone who wishes to advance the development of the GNU system, regardless of gender, race, ethnic group, physical appearance, religion, cultural background, and any other demographic characteristics, as well as personal political views. People are sometimes discouraged from participating in GNU development because of certain patterns of communication that strike them as unfriendly, unwelcoming, rejecting, or harsh. This discouragement particularly affects members of disprivileged demographics, but it is not limited to them. Therefore, we ask all contributors to make a conscious effort, in GNU Project discussions, to communicate in ways that avoid that outcome—to avoid practices that will predictably and unnecessarily risk putting some contributors off.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Local politics in Software
Andy: RMS was the victim of such local politics/religion (one can see said US belief system as a religion); his enemies opened the door. And it is local. Even the foreign-to-us people that were attacking RMS and had him physically thrown out of his home at MIT were following local-American morals and beliefs, even if some of them were in Europe. I am just expressing a weak opposition to what they used against RMS. If they are able to call for RMS' removal from his OWN project (and yes: GNU is _his_ project), and they have threads on this that go on for centuries on -devel lists, and this is fine (it is seen as fine), then they have already opened the door. They would like it to be closed after they said their piece, ofcourse. They even got RMS to recant! RMS, recanting! After they pressured him, and had him thrown out with bouncers from where he lived for 40 years. Because he offended /their/ religion/local-politics (which are global because the demon won't leave anyone alone) On 2019-11-06 18:21, Andy Tai wrote: Please no politics of these "American" hate/evil stuff. These are not qualified factors in making technical decisions. This is a global list. Your opinions are of local nature and should not be imposed on anyone in your country or anywhere else. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:54 AM wrote: (because white women _HATE_ men: thus libreboot-"maintainer"'s shameful act is in keeping with their interests, while RMS's past text ideas are not: white women are _EVIL_ tyrants who encourage their men (and they are _their_ men) to MURDER COUNTLESS INNOCENT muslim men, women, children BECAUSE "they are p[a]edos: the men should be killed, the children are better of dead than living in that society"))] ... For these reasons I propose coreboot with the no-blobs option be used over "libreboot". It is free-software without the blobs; but even blobless the spyware in your processor is still there either way (another gift of America).
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
Pure cissexism is off-topic on gnu-system-discuss, which is about technical aspects of the GNU system. You shall not talk about social or politics (other than software freedom) here. For further questions please ask in private. Le mercredi 6 novembre 2019 22:49:07 CET, vous avez écrit : > Why did you edit my words of [something] […] to [[something else]]? Because I don’t want to relay your statements I disagree with myself. Quotations are for convenience, not relaying. If one want to correct or summarize something, convention is to do so by putting such modification into square brackets. > I did not authorize you do do > that. I don’t need. > Verbatim quotes are fine, changing words is not. Yes it is, as it is small quotation, and not plagiarism nor counterfeit.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
Ok seriously, this shit has gone too far. I follow this mailing list for gnu system related conversation. This is wildly inappropriate, offensive and it should not continue. There are other venues for such conversations surely. I am subscribed to this list to keep abreast of the system discussion, not vitreous ranting. Take it elsewhere. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 4:52 PM wrote: > Why did you edit my words of he (the libreboot maintain is a man: who > had his genitals sliced off) to [she]? I did not authorize you do do > that. Verbatim quotes are fine, changing words is not. The man is no a > eunich, but he is not a woman (since he cannot have children). A woman > without a womb is like a broken compiler: it's not a compiler: just the > pieces that could have been one. Same with a man without genitals. > > In america it is lauded when men have their genitals chopped off. > But when a man might hint at the wish to marry adorable young girls: > america wants to kill and torture him. > > RMS defended the idea of man+girl (paedophillia) being OK, 3 times, in > his writings. He has now "walked that back" (sadly, we grieve) and tries > to keep to the american religion: (because you all attacked him for > deviating from your evil sick belief system.) > > The old religions all support RMS's previous stance and more. America's > new religion does not. > > And the libreboot maintainer is a Eunich, NOT a woman - a he or a > neuter. > > I doubt he'll ever contribute anything much more after having his balls > sliced off of his body. They usually lose the will. > >
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option). - Why the [edits]?
Why did you edit my words of he (the libreboot maintain is a man: who had his genitals sliced off) to [she]? I did not authorize you do do that. Verbatim quotes are fine, changing words is not. The man is no a eunich, but he is not a woman (since he cannot have children). A woman without a womb is like a broken compiler: it's not a compiler: just the pieces that could have been one. Same with a man without genitals. In america it is lauded when men have their genitals chopped off. But when a man might hint at the wish to marry adorable young girls: america wants to kill and torture him. RMS defended the idea of man+girl (paedophillia) being OK, 3 times, in his writings. He has now "walked that back" (sadly, we grieve) and tries to keep to the american religion: (because you all attacked him for deviating from your evil sick belief system.) The old religions all support RMS's previous stance and more. America's new religion does not. And the libreboot maintainer is a Eunich, NOT a woman - a he or a neuter. I doubt he'll ever contribute anything much more after having his balls sliced off of his body. They usually lose the will.
Re: Coreboot vs Libreboot - GNU: Please use Coreboot without the blobs (compile time option).
Oh my… Okay I treat first technical issues: Le mercredi 6 novembre 2019, 18:52:50 CET gameonli...@redchan.it a écrit : > [Posting here because the technical reason Libreboot is now a bad option > is because it doesn't work with newer systems, Libreboot is a bootloader meant to replace BIOS (or UEFI), that is on systems which have BIOS or UEFI… That is intel systems. And nowadays intel systems are locked, impossible to update, and come with proprietary and security-threatening non-removable Intel ME (and AMT). > and the Libreboot > "maintainer" There is no more libreboot maintainer since the founder wanted to take it out of GNU and then leaved after disagreeing with the other developers because of that. > has seemingly no will to update the project, and no > technical ability to work > around the problems] The problem is not technical but political, intel does shit: https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd Developers tried to remove as much they could, they couldn’t arrive to anything free- software that would just *boot*. So that with modern hardware you have to choose between freedom and being able to boot. > Coreboot is the actual project, it can be compiled without binary > blobs, and has an command line option to do so. > Libre boot is Coreboot without the binary blobs. Libreboot also contribute upstream to add reimplementation and reverse-engineering of binary blobs, even more especially when these are required in order to boot. > Libre boot has not been updated in 3 years. […] > Usually this would be fine for a program: at some point often > a program is completed and needs fewer code updates (then one should > focus on media updates and additions that use its capabilities), It can be considered it is the case, for the specific point of intel and amd hardware. Unless AMD and Intel change politics for newer to-be-released hardware, that won’t change. Progress is to be researched on other architectures. Very well, x86 is not very esteemed anyway. And ARM is taking over everything, and is better esteemed (though not as much as MIPS or Alpha). > but > this particular program must be updated to work with new hardware > (new, ever more compromised hardware...) No. > The "maintainer" (again: here we have someone who is not a > main-programmer of the Work, being effectivly credited with the Work, > when the work on the Work consists simply of removing parts of the > Work, or just setting different complile options) No, the original founder did contribute upstream to coreboot. Libreboot is a distribution of coreboot that contributes to it. Coreboot people are simply not willing to remove proprietary binary blobs that just “work better”. Libreboot solves it the same way as Linux- libre to Linux (even more), gNewSense to Debian (even more), Trisquel to Ubuntu or Parabola to ArchLinux, LibreCMC to… forgot it. That’s very common and not a problem. And it almost always implies some additional philosophy policing work that is politically very important within free software. Otherwise we wouldn’t be supporting it. I have some grief against Pure OS because it doesn’t add/remove that much, and have communication and marketing I dislike. Though (especially through librem 5 project) I heard it contributed to some upstream software projects (not Debian though). > revile the > Coreboot programers, No. They’re doing good, important and useful job. But they’re not on our philosophical standards against proprietary software. That clearly underlines what I previously said about separation between technique and politics. The rest is nonsense as you yourself saw both defense and attacks on RMS and their orders of magnitudes. Just count the mails, count people who expressed in each direction *and people not having expressed* (you can find maintainers on pages of each gnu package in /s and developers in VCS histories). > RMS is an actual programmer, not merely a > "maintainer" who /removes/ things: he built things from the ground up. He also do that. GNU is a negative movement. We want for proprietary software to *disappear*. That’s his ideology, and ours too. > "Maintainers" should not steal the glory from the actual originators of > the Work. We see it happen here where "Maintainers" try to oust the > Authors. They should know their place, or not have one at all (their > position and role is more of one of plagirism than anything else) So you’re proposing to throw out linux-libre, trisquel, parabola, librecmc, gnewsense, pureos, etc. pretty much most of FSF’s endorsed distributions and its kernel. This is stupid. It is also pretty complicated to remove non-free parts from Linux, so Linux-libre is essential. And the ability to remove non-free part of coreboot *directly comes* from active upstream hacking from *libreboot developers* (including leah). > this > "maintainer" has not been cancled,
