On 2/13/2018 9:49 PM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote:
Why are you blaming the workers rather than the employers?
Why do you think a piece of software can help if you are shitting on
your employees?
Mike, is this what you expected as a response? Adrien appears to be a
person that trusts no-one.
😊 I think I would love to sit down in a pub with the three of you
(Wm, Adrien, and Mike). I think we could have such awesome
semi-drunken discussions about the nature of life, the universe and
everything!
I'm in London. Mike is in a Trump voting bit of Merka. Don't know
where Adrien is and
On 2/13/2018 4:53 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
😊 I think I would love to sit down in a pub with the three of you (Wm, Adrien,
and Mike). I think we could have such awesome semi-drunken discussions about
the nature of life, the universe and everything!
I think you have basically answered my question,
On 2/13/2018 2:55 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote:
A couple of times I have noticed that people have said "That's not
what GNUCash is for". It begs the question - where is it defined what
GNUCash is and isn't for? The charter for GNUCash doesn't seem to
ever been formalised.
There is a long t
On 2/2/2018 7:04 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote:
On 31/01/2018 16:09, Christopher Lam wrote:
Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of
technical details, and this discussion will be very speculative.
I had a thought about how envelope budgeting could work: "divide your
Uh ... Putting my "business analyst" hat on I see nothing there which
says WHAT data needs to be transmitted to them digitally.
This discussion has seemed to be making the assumption that gnucash
would need to be sending it's "books" to them digitally which is NOT the
same thing as saying that
On 7/4/2016 9:54 AM, John Ralls wrote:
Read the original letter again. He's asking about copying parts of the
Tutorial and Concepts Guide, which is published under the GNU Free
Documentation License, or GFDL. That's separate from the program's
copyrights and licenses. Regards, John Ralls .
Y
On 7/3/2016 6:05 PM, Chris Lyttle wrote:
I agree with John, as long as it keeps with the requirements of the GFDL, which
means the work is available under the same license, I have no objection.
Uh, I am not one of the developers but am old enough to have been able
to follow the original "free s
On 5/18/2016 8:51 PM, John Ralls wrote:
On May 18, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Aaron Laws wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:22 PM, John Ralls mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
The Balance Sheet report shows you net worth. You probably didn't recognize it because
the accounting word for it is "equity". R
On 10/17/2015 7:06 PM, Matt Graham wrote:
G’day all,
Now that I finally have myself set up to be able to view, edit and test the
gnucash sources, I have come across the limitation of using text editors (using
nano at the moment...) to code. Can anyone recommend a good program for doing
coding
On 2/12/2015 10:26 AM, Neal Lithwick wrote:
Hi
I would love to migrate over to this program but I have one problem (so
far). I need to have the ability to set a Starting Balance for the balance
sheet items as I am not starting anew but migrating over from Money Smith.
Since every transaction ne
Steven Patrick wrote:
The GnuCash invoicing process does this automatically for larger businesses,
but many smaller businesses use only cash book records and need to be able to
automatically calculate and record GST in bank account transactions. Because
it is already being done in the invoi
The way the current Gnucash customer invoice interface works with
options for "Taxable?" and "Tax Included?" is perfect for their needs,
as long as it can be implemented in a normal cheque account register.
Some transactions would be taxable and others not.
I am happy to do the developmen
The developers are generally agreed that we are NOT interested in this.
(b) although I will probably
manage to code the open and save routines, I'm not sure I will not get
stuck somewhere, in which case it will either remain as an unfinished
project, or I will need some help from somebod
Perhaps totally underestimating the scope of the problem.
For example, in the US there are 50 states, perhaps half of which have a
sales tax. The problem isn't just that the rates would all be different
but also that to what they apply (or not) would be different* and you'd
need in addition a
The rules say that you have to distribute all of the source code, but I think
that it's become
pretty common to rely on the fact that the sources are all readily available
via the net. You'll
probably want to get an OK from your lawyers.
The rules say that if you make changes to the
Jasper,
First of all, there are no fees to use this software (or to get
help using it). Donations are always welcome.
Second, you posted to the developers list. Questions such as you
have just asked should be on the users list, gnucash-u...@gnucash.org
Third, I'll answer some o
Can't really recall whether or not they included the required license terms,
but I guess they did.
I did uninstall that particular version and re-install the version from your
official download source so hopefully that should be safe unless he has done
something a little more devious.
Than
(this should have been on the "user" list)
I would handle this with an asset account (as opposed to equity).
It is very like what for me is a common situation. I live in a rural
area, don't drive to town where the bank is every day. In fact, we try
to combine trips so only go to town once or t
Alan Duffell wrote:
Hi there,
Excuse the probably stupid question as I'm new to Gnucash!
I'm using the software at a small charity and we'd like to know the following:
1) Is it possible to produce monthly cashflow reports, e.g. with months on the
x axis and income/expenditure/balance on the
You can disagree all you want, but you're still wrong. ;) The GAAP
method to close the books is to create a fake date (or 'invalid' date)
that sits between the periods. That's what most accountants and
large-scale accounting programs do. You might dislike it, but it's the
way the world works.
JT Morée wrote:
I realize the close books issue has been dealt with for years but I'm coming up
empty on searching for this particular aspect. Please tell me if there is
another way to fix this issue that I'm not seeing.
As I have mentioned before (more than once) the way around this is to
Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:
Am Wednesday 13 January 2010 23:01:07 schrieb Mike or Penny Novack:
As treasurer of a 501(c)3 ...
I fear, outside of USA not much people know the meanig of 501(c)3.
Best wishes
Frank
Sorry --- that's ONE type of non-profit here in the US. Dona
Phuntsok Rapden wrote:
Hello, can GnuCash be used by non-profit organizations if the account
descriptions are modified? Thank you so much for this wonderful product.
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Karey Broach wrote:
I would like to know if there is the ability to change the reporting
criteria from a year at a time to monthly?
I would like to be able to see monthly reports as well as yearly reports?
Is there any documentation on creating new reports or are the ones that are
created
Phil Longstaff wrote:
At some point, I want to modify some of the reports (balance sheet/income
statement especially) to allow multiple dates or time periods to be specified,
resulting in multiple columns. However, I'm busy with too much else right now.
Phil
THAT would be welcome, Phil.
Is there any report model showing the Profit & Loss on monthly basis?
If so, where could I find it?
Thanks in advance!
Norton S. Freire
I'm not at all sure I understand what is wanted here. I don't do monthly
Profit & Loss reports but I do do quarterly ones. Have absolutely no
difficul
Gnucash is a usable program. It however lacks something *very basic
and important.* Any professional accounting program must not allow
the editing or deleting of entered transactions. All corrections
must be made by an additional correction entry which will refer to the
original erroneous
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello,
what sorting is used for the transactions
within a single day?
I would like to make sure the transactions
get the same sorting-order they have on
the bank-account to make comparing both
easier for the user.
Could this be done my modifying the time
in
The other thing is, we want to write a new invoice (or improve the ones which
are there), so that they have more information (which is needed to create a
legal invoice in germany and some other useful information like bank
connection of the business, logo, ...). But actually we don't find th
>I am quite sure I have read a discussion a while ago about the
>constraint of not being able to set more than one account type for an
>account. The thing is that the standard BAS account plan, which is being
>used in Sweden, has a top account (placeholder) which holds both equity
>and liabilities
Stuart Andrews wrote:
>Dear Gnucash team,
>
>I've been happily using your software since the end of last year, having
>ditched Windows completely. I was using Microsoft Money before.
>
>Can I make a suggestion for possible inclusion in the future? It would
>save me a lot of time reviewing schedu
Frédéric
>Actually, it was not. But I can certainly understand how it could seem
>that way to you.
>
>My question/need was actually technical: how much money went into asset
>account X last year? [*]
>
>This need comes as a result of two things:
>
>* Under Canadian law, the half-year convention
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>I don't want to rain on your parade, but in my opinion this is the
>wrong thing to do.
>
>What would be better is to have a separate balance sheet report that
>provides the delta over a time period. I don't begin to know how to do
>that, but IMO, it is the proper thi
I just want to point out what .cvs support entails for the benefit of
those for whom this isn't immediately obvious.
.cvs refers to the low level format of the data -- just that the file of
data consists of "records? delineated by and the records
consist of "fields" delineated by commas. But t
>
>You did not mention which role you intend to take in this, I guess youI
>don't intend to take on a role. I see the value in doing, not in
>theoretical arguments how things should be done.
>
>Over and out.
>
>
I thought I was indicating that I might take on any of a number of
different rol
> I am not sure your experiences, the analytical approach, division of labor
> (hats as you described them) which I would consider best practice in any kind
> of business project can easily be transferred to gnucash or any other FOSS
> project.
>
>
The only real difference is that it's vol
Rolf Leggewie wrote:
>Mike or Penny Novack wrote:
>
>
>>IMHO you do not want "a person" who meets all those criteria.
>>
>>
>
>Mike, thank you for your reply.
>
>While your theoretical description may be correct, I think I have
>accur
>
>My understanding for the reason of the current situation is that there
>is nobody fitting all of the following description.
>
>1) can code
>2) has time to contribute code
>3) business user
>4) lives in Europe
>
>I fit 3 and 4. I currently think that trying to get gnucash into shape
>for busi
>.
>I'd have to look back, but I think Derek's reply was the only one. I'd like
>to open the topic again, because of Rolf's problem. Can anyone think of a
>reason that account code size limit cannot be reduced to a smaller value (e.g.
>32)? Will anyone ever enter an account code longer
>
>Hence, if *you* want to invest money and expect results from it, comparable to
>a "classic" project, you will have to find a "project manager" first, or
>alternatively you will have to put yourself into that position.
>(Incidentally, your resume indicates you might actually be rather qualifi
Please understand that this whole problem about "time" has me very confused.
I do not understand WHAT time is under discussion. I do not understand
the ("business") meaning of "posting time" as never in accounting have I
come across the time at which the bookkeeper posts a transaction to be
of
samar shailendra wrote:
>I am a new user of gnucash ...
>
>I am entering transactions in gnucash account for last two years(eg. 2006-07
>and 2007-08) .. now I want to generate the balance sheet for the
>transactions of last year only(i.e. 2006-07).. Can I do that , if yes how ?
>
>
You first gen
>>>
>>>
>>I believe several users have expressed that they do not want a time written
>>to their data file if they never actually entered one. That's one of the
>>things I am proposing to support with this proposal. Saving defaulted
>>transaction times would mean that when you read the file
>The key is that the register would display date,time, AND TIMEZONE. The
>timezone lets the user recognize that ...
>
>
I am going to ask again.
On July 18th at 14:30 EST the bookkeeper enters a transaction involving
accounts whose "time zones" are all also EST (in other words there wil
Ian Lewis wrote:
>I kind of understand where Stuart is going with this. There are a lot
>of parallels. The currency example is one. From a programming
>perspective, storing strings without an encoding is another.
>Essentially to know the real value you need to know another piece of
>metadata.
>
>S
As a retired pro who has debugged many date errors in my day I really
have to side with Stuart here.
Michael D Novack, FLMI
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I would pay close attention to what Graham says here.
> I didn't say that *all* timestamps were unnecessary, what I said was
> that dates that are actually dates, and not times, are being stored as
> times, and that this is incorrect.
>
> For an example, look at the date entered in a transaction
>>
>>Can you explain me please what does "submitting" means here?
>>If you need a person who will say "yes, I need it", I can be this
>>person for sure.
>>But there will be no use from me if volunteering=programming - I have almost
>>no experience here.
>>
>>
>
>
>
However do not underestim
Derek Atkins wrote:
> Um, I've heard no news that 2.2.4 doesn't work on Vista. Does 2.2.4
> NOT work on vista?
>
That's why I am asking. I don't (thank goodness) have a Vista machine
here at the moment. The last discussions about this problem were around
October with the problem then not resolv
I need to do some organizational planning but I am posting this here
rather than the "user" list because of the nature of parts of this question.
Problem statement --- I am currently the Treasurer for a 501c3 but next
year will have to take at least a one year hiatus (term limit bylaw).
Which m
Thanks everybody (keep up with suggestions)
I will probably want a "C for Windows" sort of book if such exists. Not
"how to program" in general but "how to interact with objects of type
"window"". Any ideas? I have written some* C, but that was in a Linux
environment and I wasn't (yet) interact
Andreas,
I think we are getting somewhere
>Please take a look at
>http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/browser/gnucash/branches/gda-dev2/packaging/win32
>
>
So I would want to get the compiler (and presumably including a
link-editor) here? "This is achieved by using the mingw32/gcc compiler
>>
> I haven't done much work on Gnucash on Linux or Windows but I was able
> to get it to compile under Windows by following the instructions on
> this page:
>
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows
>
> There are a few manual steps and then a script that downloads and
> installs a bunch of too
Related to getting started. (now that my "post fire" life is more or
less back to normal -- sorry for the long delay)
I haven't ever done any "work" in the Windows environment before. Which
means I don't have a set of development tools. Anybody willing to make
some suggestions? What open source
Al,
The problem is unclear documentation? I put it that way because
obviously not adequate to get you to the right spot.
That's not "customization" and it is via "options" that you get to
set things each time you run a report -- things like the date range,
what subtotals you want to see
my two cents
I think it would be wise to collect a precise definition of the formal
requirements before making any design decisions.
ABSOLUTELY -- determining requirements is the first step in design.
How about collecting translations of relevant sections of the actual laws in
the wiki, to
>On Feb 6, 2008, at 9:16 PM, David Reiser wrote:
>
>
>
>>Using Tim's approach, I have:
>>642 accounts
>>6423 transactions
>>and it took 4 minutes, 6 seconds to close the books.
>>
>>
>
>
>1minute 46 seconds for a trial balance.
>Dave
>--
>David Reiser
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
OK --- we seem
As a practical matter, depends on whether you are looking at that code
with an editor that is "language sensitive" or not. Probably why seeing
so many different styles.
For example -- take style 2
Less keystrokes (a true R&K tradition) and as long as you are using a
language sensitive editor
>
>Additionally, when building the setup.exe on Windows we compile guile from
>source anyway, so applying a patch that has been sent to bug-guile but is
>not contained in any release yet is perfectly fine, at least IMHO.
>
>-- andi5
>
>
>
Again I am probably making some wrong assumptions. Compil
>To all Scheme/Guile developers:
>
>Although the "dirname" and "basename" procedures are not currently used in
>any GnuCash source code (.scm files), please be aware that these procedures
>do not work properly in Guile 1.6.8 (the version recommended for GnuCash)
>running on mingw. This affects tho
>
>
>> The other issue is the fact not really how traditional accounting
>> would do this. More usual is a temporary equity account (receiving
>> total income and total expenses) which is then closed to retained
>> equity with a single entry, either gain or loss for the year (thus
>> making
>Ah, yes, a Description for the transaction. Good point! Thanks,
>I'll go add that.
>
>Anything else
>
>
>-derek
>
>
>
The date for which the closing takes place should be a user set variable
(OK to have it default to 12/31/current year).
a) You don't know the FISCAL calendar of your users.
>We believe, but we are not sure, that the Microsoft-Money "Annual % Return" is
>the Internal Rate of Return (IRR). See
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/131664. We believe that the IRR is the "best"
>measure of return, because it allows any two investments to be meaningfully
>compared.. The
>>"Suspense" accounts are a user thing. GnuCash doesn't care, and
>>indeed shouldn't care. You can Process Payment into a Suspense
>>Account just as easily as you can Process Payment into a Checking
>>Account.
>>
>>
Is it useful to allow aliases for Account Types? Or to add a Suspense
type
>
>
>
>Doing multiple non-consecutive invoices for the payment process would
>be arbitrarily complex. At that point the real answer is a real
>solution to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108570
>
>In my business experience this disputing an invoice is extremely
>rare, so I dont think tha
>>
>>
>[[Maybe a bit off-topic for this mailinglist, but I thought it could give some
>additional background]]
>
>... and some are already. A fine example is The Gimp (http://www.gimp.org),
>an alternative image manipulation program for Photoshop. Whether it truly can
>replace Photoshop is
>
>Uh, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but GnuCash does (should) create a
>$HOME/.gnucash/ dir for its own storage, as well as leveraging the
>$HOME/.gconf/ storage we've talked about.
>
>
>
Sorry -- but I don't understand.
Yes, I see that GnuCash has created a directory named .gnucash
(pr
>
> Very interesting observation. Does the directory ".gnucash" get
> created on both account names? If it does, gnucash's handling of
> account names and paths is correctly implemented. In that case we'd
> have to forward the bugreport about the ".gconf" directory to the
> GConf project:
Josh Sled wrote:
>The developer who started that work hasn't had a lot of time for GnuCash in
>the last few years. I really hope he does respond, but I don't feel out of
>order responding on his behalf.
>
>
>There are two approaches to book closing:
>
>
Maybe stop right there. As soon as there
It was suggested that I join this list in addition to the users list. I
am a retired senior systems analyst with a few decades experience in
software for a "financial". Well call that semi-retired as they
sometimes tempt me back into the "cypher mines" for a little juicy
consulting. At the mome
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