Re: [GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

2021-12-10 Thread Gerald
This isn't going to be within the realm of GC, but as a UK finance director here is how I would do it. - Give 'account codes' to all of your balance sheet accounts (you'll see this in Edit Account, it isn't used by default) - Update the Account Summary report to display account codes - Copy/paste

Re: [GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrian Yong
Hi David, I asked for the same thing but was told that since entries are made using the double entry system, Assets = Liability + Proprietorship is complied with... I download the transaction report and used that as a basis to generate my balance sheet using excel... Those accounts without

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Ha! Thanks! (yes, that was indeed me.) Not certain if all of that still applies, but since it was focused on nodes and not id/class names, that is very likely. If anyone can add more insight or tips to that thread, please do! (on the wiki is even better!) Regards, Adrien On 12/10/21 9:42

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread D. via gnucash-user
A while back, someone (named Adrien!) shared tips on formatting the tabs at https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2020-January/088583.html Original Message From: Adrien Monteleone Sent: Fri Dec 10 21:45:51 EST 2021 To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re:

Re: [GNC] How would one record "Provision for liabilities" ?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You'd need to ask the accountant at *least* two questions. (more will arise, I'm sure) 1) where in the CoA does/should this 'provisions' account reside? 2) how do you determine its balance? (what other accounts affect it?) Note, it is certainly possible in accounting (and in GnuCash) to track

Re: [GNC] How would one record "Provision for liabilities" ?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You can certainly create 'Other Liabilities' or 'Provisional Liabilities' under the main 'Liabilities' account, as you see fit. I'd create that as a placeholder-parent, and then create a separate account for the specific liability 'owner'. (or whatever description/name makes sense) This

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Note too that there are some 'defined' register colors. The example CSS files linked from the wiki should at least illustrate these. (though I don't think there is much 'documentation' on them, their names should be self-explanatory) I'll dig into my own CSS file to see if I adjusted that

Re: [GNC] Encoding;was: Bitcoin …

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Same here (also set to UTF-8), no issues with errant '?'. The web interface doesn't show them either, so most likely an encoding issue with your e-mail client. Regards, Adrien On 12/10/21 5:43 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Hi, how did you set the encoding of your email client? I am using

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Nice write up. I'll draw attention to John's previous comment: (to paraphrase) "When it is added to the currently accepted ISO list of 'currencies' then it will be added to GnuCash *as a currency*." There are promises and gems to be held in that statement, but breath should be exhaled! As

Re: [GNC] Why do people start new threads?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Don't sweat it Paul! The 'unforgiving' nature is because it is e-mail. Once it is out there, it is out there. No changes are possible as the transmission has already occurred and is fully completed. Thankfully one *cannot* edit an e-mail after sending. Regards, Adrien On 12/10/21 3:05 PM,

[GNC] Does anyone produce a "UK balance sheet" (FRS 102) ?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I realise this is not something the developers can realistically do, but I wonder if anyone has configured GnuCash to produce a balance sheet that looks like one that would be submitted to Companies House in the UK? (I attached a copy of mine, without obfuscating it, since the data can be found

[GNC] How would one record "Provision for liabilities" ?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
With all the usual disclaimers (not an accountant, not their jurisdiction, ask your accountant), can anyone suggest where it would be sensible to record "Provision for liabilities" in GnuCash? It is defined on the balance sheet as *Provisions * *Provisions (ie liabilities of uncertain timing or

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
The syntax is roughly the same which is fine but what I'm finding harder is identifying the appropriate selectors based on the output of the inspector is harder. I've gotten most of everything I wanted fixed except for the height of the register tabs. The inspector so far isn't showing me

[GNC] Encoding;was: Bitcoin …

2021-12-10 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi, how did you set the encoding of your email client? I am using utf-8 and see no issues. Regards Frank Am 10.12.21 um 22:52 schrieb Colin Arndt: > I see those ? marks all the time, it’s not just you. > > I'd guess the mailman system either doesn’t support characters in your > message… or

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
I'm familiar with those distinctions but it gets more complicated than that. In this particular case, my account is local (the machine is standalone and not part of a domain) yet some software still uses Roaming rather than Local for storage. Local isn't just for local accounts. Some data

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Colin Arndt
I see those ? marks all the time, it’s not just you. I'd guess the mailman system either doesn’t support characters in your message… or my Mac doesn’t support what mailman is generating. The fact that I get messages as digests could have something to do with it too. > On Dec 10, 2021, at 1:21

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread davidcousens49
Dustin and Dave, As always with GnuCash the priority accorded to an item is a weighted decision based on the need and the availability of developer time against other priorities. The principal weighting is the availability of someone in the development team (by no means a fixed resource outside

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread paul
In Windows, the choice of AppData\Local vs AppData\Roaming is system-wide and dependant upon the type of logon the user performed. A login to the local machine account uses AppData\Local, while a domain login uses AppData\Roaming. There are numerous bits in Windows that deal with giving domain

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread gcul209
No big deal, I have the same problem in person, but agree text can make it worse.  Any clue where those question marks in the quote of my e-mail are coming from?  I didn't type them and don't see them in my sent message, but they certainly make it look disingenuous. On 12/10/21 4:08 PM, Colin

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Colin Arndt
Hi Dustin, Allow me to apologize as well, if I misread your message as being harsher than it was. It’s easy to do that over text and it wouldn’t be my first time. At the very least - I learned what shotgun argumentation is! I’ll take a crack at that new wiki section soon. Thanks everyone,

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 20:28, Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 12/10/2021 10:18 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote: > > This is a lot different than your first explanation. Under these > circumstances where you sold the company electronic equipment, it is indeed > just an

Re: [GNC] Why do people start new threads?

2021-12-10 Thread paul
Guilty as charged (and I can't even claim I'm not an old hand at mailing lists). Apologies again! I know there are endless posts going back years about switching to something more forgiving. IMHO the biggest problem with them is how unforgiving they are once a mistake is made. With a forum (or

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread davidcousens49
Gyle With one caveat. If the item is a capital item and its intended use is over a period which is longer than a single accounting period it would not normally be regarded as an expense but as a capital purchase. Most jurisdictions will have a threshhold value where the item can be expensed

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 12/10/2021 10:18 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote: This is a lot different than your first explanation. Under these circumstances where you sold the company electronic equipment, it is indeed just an expense. On the company's books, it is the same as if the company had bought the equipment from

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That'll get you a court date in the U.S.! (it is a specific crime, called 'structuring') It isn't 'illegal' here to use any amount of cash, as far as I'm aware, but over $10K and you have to fill out paperwork. (I think there is a lower limit around $3K where a bank reports on you, and isn't

Re: [GNC] Why do people start new threads?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
It could be worse. They could reply to a digest e-mail and not change the subject! Not everyone is 'old hat' at using mailing lists. (or even e-mail for that matter) I still know people that e-mail me a year or more later on a new topic by replying to the last message I sent them that they

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
The wiki *should* warn about this, but be aware that GTK CSS and Web CSS are *not* the same thing. Thus rules, selectors, and properties won't necessarily translate from Web to GTK or even be available. But anyone familiar with Web CSS should be able to find their way around how to utilize the

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 12/9/21 19:38, Stan Brown wrote: On 2021-12-09 11:04, Gyle McCollam wrote: If the loan is to the company, as stated in your original email, it is a liability of the company. Stan is incorrect, but if the company makes a loan TO the director, then it would be an asset of the company and he

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Thanks Geert. I figured WSL wouldn't work, but wasn't 100% sure. Good to know that the Inspector can indeed be run in Windows. Regards, Adrien On 12/10/21 3:30 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 06:00:44 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone: The wiki has a 'file locations' map

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes "money out of the company into my personal bank account" can be at least four things I can think of right off: 1. Expense (spread out payments or not) 2. Repayment of Liability 3. Dividend 4. Draw But I think the further details about the selling of equipment at least shows that this

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
On 2021-12-10 11:31, AC wrote: On 2021-12-10 11:16, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 19:35:02 CET schreef AC: Thanks Geert, that at leas would enable it but how do I bring up the inspector to use it?  The link to gnome.org only discusses using the inspector in a Linux

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
On 2021-12-10 11:16, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 19:35:02 CET schreef AC: Thanks Geert, that at leas would enable it but how do I bring up the inspector to use it? The link to gnome.org only discusses using the inspector in a Linux environment but it doesn't say how to

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi Colin, Am 10.12.21 um 19:15 schrieb Colin Arndt: > Do I need permission from someone in particular to update the wiki as > suggested earlier, or can I just go ahead and do it? Afterwards I can post > here for review if desired. it's a wiki, just go for it. Before you start, you should know

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 19:35:02 CET schreef AC: > Thanks Geert, that at leas would enable it but how do I bring up the > inspector to use it? The link to gnome.org only discusses using the > inspector in a Linux environment but it doesn't say how to bring it up > in a Windows environment. >

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Dustin Henning
Dave & group, In case Colin is correct, allow me to apologize (hopefully not equally poorly) for being out of line here and now.  I'm sorry if I seemed accusatory or offensive, as that was not my intent.  While I do believe that this conversation has run its course, I would like to elaborate

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
Thanks Geert, that at leas would enable it but how do I bring up the inspector to use it? The link to gnome.org only discusses using the inspector in a Linux environment but it doesn't say how to bring it up in a Windows environment. On 2021-12-10 01:30, Geert Janssens wrote: Op vrijdag 10

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Colin Arndt
Dave, For what it’s worth, I think the accusations of you using ad hominem and shotgun arguments were more out of line than your original message. I re-read what you wrote after those comments were made and was left scratching my head. I didn’t see those things in the points you raised or the

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 16:12, Dustin Henning wrote: > > To be frank, considering all of that makes > it look to me like you have an agenda here. The team has already given > you an appropriate answer, and now you are resorting to ad hominem and > shotgun argumentation. That was not my

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 15:18, Gyle McCollam wrote: > This is a lot different than your first explanation. Under these > circumstances where you sold the company electronic equipment, it is indeed > just an expense. On the company's books, it is the same as if the company > had bought the

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Dustin Henning
On 12/10/21 10:14 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Now, in 2021: * Hundreds of millions of people own bitcoin * Multi-billion dollar exchanges such as Coinbase exist, which trade in bitcoin. * Bitcoin is traded on the Swiss Stock Exchange * Multi-billion dollar companies are accepting bitcoin as a

Re: [GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread Thomas
Thanks for your feedback, rsbrux! As I didn't find anything fitting to what I am looking for, I think about creating something myself. In case I have something, I'd happily report back and would ask for feedback. Best, Thomas On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 15:16, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote: > >

[GNC] Why do people start new threads?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I started a thread Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC? Now there's another thread, with a virtually identical title, but this time with a space missing between the not and add, so it reads Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC? Can't people reply to

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Gyle McCollam
This is a lot different than your first explanation. Under these circumstances where you sold the company electronic equipment, it is indeed just an expense. On the company's books, it is the same as if the company had bought the equipment from any other vendor and would in no way be a

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why not add BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 17:52, john wrote: > Of course it is, and it has been since v3.0. > > But GnuCash permits only currencies for denominating Equity (which > includes income and expense) and Liability accounts and some users want us > to enable that for cryptocurrencies. > > When the banking

Re: [GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread rsbrux via gnucash-user
Dear Thomas, Thanks for pointing out Portfolio Performance; I have been looking for a way to extract such reporting from GC, but perhaps I would be better off using an external tool like PP. If you succeed in finding or creating such a bridge between GC and PP, please post back here, as I am

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
Michael, it seems your concern with bringing in quotes is that Bitcoin is not sufficiently liquid or available for public trading? In a former life I traded Bitcoin and I can tell you ... NO ... I was NOT discussing the liquidity of "bitcoin". That should have bee clear enough but

Re: [GNC] Directors loan - do I need an expense account?

2021-12-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 05:14, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > With the usual caveat that this is not formal advice, I agree with > Michael. This looks like what we call "Owner's Equity" in my parts. > > If this is just for you, then my personal advice is keep it

Re: [GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread D via gnucash-user
The answer really is embedded in what format Portfolio Performance needs for its input. I didn't see anything leap out at me in their website about that in my brief scan. Most likely, you'd use a gnucash report to output data to a spreadsheet and import to PP from there. On Dec 10, 2021,

Re: [GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread Thomas
Hi Christopher, thanks for your reply! With "Portfolio Performance", I was referring to specific (external) tool with that name. I forgot to mention that explicitly. My hope was that I could record all the data and changes in GnuCash and just regularly export the required information about my

Re: [GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread Christopher Lam
Imnsho, portfolio "performance" is a popular term, and I'm not sure it has an official definition. There's an IFRS report in the experimental menu to analyse a single stock activity. It aims to calculate a mathematical average cost price of the stock. You can then compare it with the stock latest

[GNC] Stock data export to Portfolio Performance

2021-12-10 Thread Thomas
Hello everybody, in order to have a detailed and interactive overview of all my stock portfolio, I would like to export the data I have in gnucash (e.g., when I bought how many stocks at what price) and import it into Portfolio Performance. It is a rather stock-focused tool, which is why I want

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Liz Dodd
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:58:40 +1000 Peter West wrote: > BTW, if you don’t actively use and support cash, it won’t be > available to you for very much longer. In Australia, it is illegal to > use cash for transactions greater than $10,000. This amount can be > readily reduced, and it will be. The

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 09:58:40 CET schreef Peter West: > I purchased cryptocurrency (in more than one form) specifically to use as a > currency. Certain currencies (not including BTC, but that may be changing) > are not readily traceable, and in this they function on the internet as > cash

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 10 december 2021 06:00:44 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone: > The wiki has a 'file locations' map for each major OS. Be certain if you > are on Windows that you are following the map for the current version. > They changed at least from 2.x to 3.x, and may have been changed again. > (I

Re: [GNC] Changing colors and layout on 4.8

2021-12-10 Thread AC
Fantastic, thanks. This gives me the notebook class which I didn't know about and couldn't find explained anywhere. On 2021-12-09 19:07, Ken Farley wrote: The settings are almost the same from 3.x to 4.x, but coincidentally, the things to change Gnucash specific items (like register colors)

Re: [GNC] Bitcoin is legal currency in El Salvador - why notadd BTC?

2021-12-10 Thread Peter West
I purchased cryptocurrency (in more than one form) specifically to use as a currency. Certain currencies (not including BTC, but that may be changing) are not readily traceable, and in this they function on the internet as cash does in everyday transactions. BTW, if you don’t actively use and