On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:11:22 -0400
"David T. via gnucash-user" wrote:
> Given how easy it is to correct these problems (i.e., change the
> Account in the erroneous entry from Imbalance-XXX to some other
> account and press enter), I don't see why we continue to beat upon
> this subject.
I think
I'm going to repeat, probably, what's already been discussed. I understand
why GnuCash creates the Imbalance account (among a few others, like Orphan
and Equity:Opening Balance). I have no problem with that, and in practice
those accounts have been useful - especially in catching errors.
I use
On 06/03/21 11:14, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
The only problem I have is that it is far too easy (IMO, IME!) to
accidentally create or use Orphan-* and Imbalance-* accounts just by
hitting the tab key one time too many. I'd prefer to be able to set an
option to disable that and to force me
The only problem I have is that it is far too easy (IMO, IME!) to
accidentally create or use Orphan-* and Imbalance-* accounts just by
hitting the tab key one time too many. I'd prefer to be able to set an
option to disable that and to force me to balance the transaction
before leaving it.
I concur. It seems like this is a too minor an issue to warrant the number of
posts on the subject. But I guess people feel strongly about it.
Will
On 2021 Jun 3, at 06-03 10:11:22, David T. via gnucash-user
wrote:
Given how easy it is to correct these problems (i.e., change the Account in
Maybe because for those new to GNC, like myself, it's not a very
intuitive process and is easy to screw up.
After two months I still muck it up from time to time especially when
I'm trying to modify a duplicated transaction that has splits.
I'm not complaining but providing an explanation to
Given how easy it is to correct these problems (i.e., change the Account
in the erroneous entry from Imbalance-XXX to some other account and
press enter), I don't see why we continue to beat upon this subject.
On 6/3/2021 10:12 AM, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2021-06-01, DaveC49 wrote:
Laura,
The
On 2021-06-01, DaveC49 wrote:
> Laura,
>
> The reason Imbalance entries exist is that it is a fundamental principle in
> double entry accounting that the sum of the debits and credits to the
> various accounts that make up a transaction must be zero.
>
> The Imbalance results if a user creates
mailto:p...@pbw.id.au>>
> Cc: GnuCash users group mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ??
JUST CURIOUS
>
>> On 2 Jun 2021, at 02:44, Peter West mailto:p...@pbw.id.au>> wrote:
David,
You have to look at the use cases of a wide range of users Some may have
multiple vehicle and want to track expenses separately for each vehicle for
example. being able to name the accounts the same for each vehicleis a great
benefit They would want be be able to create 2 or more
: "Stephen M. Butler"
Sent: Wed Jun 02 17:23:54 EDT 2021
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
On 6/2/21 11:22 AM, D. via gnucash-user wrote:
> Why delete an account that's only going to get created again
Yes, David, That is why YOU would want the imbalance account functionality.
However, other people work differently. Some people have no need for that
functionality and don’t like the creation of extra unneeded accounts. It would
be nice if GnuCash worked well for everyone instead of forcing
ted in the first
> place.
>
> --Steve
> >
> >
> > Original Message
> > From: Michael Hendry
> > Sent: Wed Jun 02 12:25:39 EDT 2021
> > To: Peter West
> > Cc: GnuCash users group
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE
: Michael Hendry
Sent: Wed Jun 02 12:25:39 EDT 2021
To: Peter West
Cc: GnuCash users group
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
On 2 Jun 2021, at 02:44, Peter West wrote:
I’m a fairly naive user, but I find the Imbalance-XXX and Orphan-XXX account
[GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
On 6/2/2021 2:27 PM, D. via gnucash-user wrote:
> The discussion about the location of Imbalance-XXX accounts is under a
> different thread, and I explained there my reasons for my account structure
> and Gnucash's previous i
Since you bring up the concept of reserved names, perhaps any account name
that Gnucash creates probably should be a reserved name so the entire
argument about creating accounts with the same name should be moot. Then
the previous behavior of allowing it to be moved would not be an issue.
On
As David pointed out in his very first post of the other thread. GnuCash
has removed an existing function without warning. Some of us use it and
want it back.
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 3:40 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 6/2/2021 2:27 PM, D. via gnucash-user
On 6/2/2021 2:27 PM, D. via gnucash-user wrote:
The discussion about the location of Imbalance-XXX accounts is under a
different thread, and I explained there my reasons for my account structure and
Gnucash's previous implementation. Suffice to say that I'd rather keep
Imbalance-USD around
it in
the location of MY choosing.
Original Message
From: "w...@theprescotts.com"
Sent: Wed Jun 02 13:37:34 EDT 2021
To: GnuCash Users
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
I am just an uninterested observe
Why delete an account that's only going to get created again?
Original Message
From: Michael Hendry
Sent: Wed Jun 02 12:25:39 EDT 2021
To: Peter West
Cc: GnuCash users group
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
> On 2 Ju
I am just an uninterested observer of this discussion of the location of the
Imbalance account(s). It has never bothered me. But Michael's suggestion seems
like a good one for those that are bothered by it. Then if the account appears,
you know there are some unbalanced transactions. If there
> On 2 Jun 2021, at 02:44, Peter West wrote:
>
> I’m a fairly naive user, but I find the Imbalance-XXX and Orphan-XXX accounts
> (at top level in my CoA) extremely useful, and I understand why they are
> there. If I ever see a balance, I know I have to fix something, which is a
> good reason
zero balance accounts in the View menu, if that's
> your preference...
>
>
> Original Message
> From: David Cousens
> Sent: Tue Jun 01 18:46:57 EDT 2021
> To: John Morris , Gnucash Users
>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES&quo
Of course, you can suppress zero balance accounts in the View menu, if that's
your preference...
Original Message
From: David Cousens
Sent: Tue Jun 01 18:46:57 EDT 2021
To: John Morris , Gnucash Users
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT A
I’m a fairly naive user, but I find the Imbalance-XXX and Orphan-XXX accounts
(at top level in my CoA) extremely useful, and I understand why they are there.
If I ever see a balance, I know I have to fix something, which is a good reason
to have them at the top. I can’t comment on any changes
On Tue, June 1, 2021 9:15 pm, Liz Dodd wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:23:07 -0400
> "D. via gnucash-user" wrote:
>
>> The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in
>> GnuCash, and you can find discussions about it in the lists over the
>> years.
>>
>> Essentially, the debate
On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:23:07 -0400
"D. via gnucash-user" wrote:
> The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in
> GnuCash, and you can find discussions about it in the lists over the
> years.
>
> Essentially, the debate boils down to this: is it better to allow a
> user to
Entering data for someone else is likely to produce a lot of /corner cases/
too.
This leads to insert/delete splits, which always causes me grief, and I have
to delete the imbalance line manually. Is my workflow wrong?
--
Sent from:
Hi David,
> I agree. There is a case for not displaying the Imbalance accounts in the CoA
> tab if there are no entries to them, i.e. they are zero balance. This is an
> option in reports but not in the account tab. They can of course be left in
> the CoA and hidden in the Account tab by
John,
I agree. There is a case for not displaying the Imbalance accounts in the CoA
tab if there are no entries to them, i.e. they are zero balance. This is an
option in reports but not in the account tab. They can of course be left in the
CoA and hidden in the Account tab by editing the account
> Actually you are given the opportunity to fix it during entry. When the
> Imbalance account appears in a transaction in the account column, all you
> have to do is click on it in the Account column and assign the correct
> account from the drop down list, before closing (pressing Enter) the
I might add here that there are corner cases where it is very difficult to
quickly bring a transaction into balance, and sometimes it is necessary for
an accounting judgement needing to be made.
Many of these cases arise when something does not have a well defined
value, so an estimated value
John,
Actually you are given the opportunity to fix it during entry. When the
Imbalance account appears in a transaction in the account column, all you have
to do is click on it in the Account column and assign the correct account from
the drop down list, before closing (pressing Enter) the
Laura,
The reason Imbalance entries exist is that it is a fundamental principle in
double entry accounting that the sum of the debits and credits to the
various accounts that make up a transaction must be zero.
The Imbalance results if a user creates and saves a transaction in which
this is not
fm <mailto:menace%40fastmail.fm>
>> Cc: Gnucash Users > gnucash-user%40gnucash.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST
>CURIOUS
>> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 9:23 AM
>>
>> Laura,
>>
>> Welcome to gnu
D." mailto:sunfish62%40yahoo.com>>
> To: men...@fastmail.fm <mailto:menace%40fastmail.fm>
> Cc: Gnucash Users gnucash-user%40gnucash.org>>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 9:23 AM
&g
Given the extremely long history of this question with many good people
expressing good reasons on both sides of the debate, I would have expected the
developers to give the user the choice. There should be a switch in the
preferences that allows the user to decide if the necessary extra
As I've been reading the discussion about the imbalance account, it occurred to
me to ask why GnuCash allows entries that are out of balance? In theory and
practice, we should not have entries that don't balance...credits should equal
debits...and if they don't, we have an error in the
;>
Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS
Date: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 9:23 AM
Laura,
Welcome to gnucash.
The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in GnuCash, and you
can find discussions about it in the lists over the years.
Essentially, the d
Laura,
Welcome to gnucash.
The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in GnuCash, and you
can find discussions about it in the lists over the years.
Essentially, the debate boils down to this: is it better to allow a user to
enter an imbalanced transaction and automatically
My opinion is that the imbalance *IS* the error and it allows you to easily
see and correct which transactions need to be moved. I think this is
preferred instead of a hard error or not allowing a transaction to be
entered.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 10:04 AM wrote:
> Michael wrote
>
> "
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