Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

2021-03-26 Thread David Carlson
In my experience, my bank uses the word 'check' to describe every check
that clears my bank account and my credit card company describes every
purchase at Amazon as 'Amazon'.  I could continue, but I certainly do not
want all transactions with those descriptions transferring to the same
respective accounts.  I think very few users of GnuCash would want that.
The GnuCash import wizards have been working for many years with Bayesian
matching giving varying results attempting to automatically match imported
transactions with existing transactions and to assign transfer accounts to
unmatched transactions. The imported transactions often have intentionally
vague descriptions describing, at best, the method of payment rather than
the purpose of the payment.  That fact makes the Bayesian matching
extremely difficult to accomplish accurately but with sufficient training
it eventually starts to work reasonably well.

If you really want Gnucash to transfer every 'check' to the same transfer
account, you can use Bayesian matching to train it eventually to do that in
most cases.  With the new Import Map editor you can improve the training to
work even more to your liking.  I think that would be adequate for most
users.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:31 PM David Cousens 
wrote:

>
> For the transfer account, the second account in a transaction being
> imported, GnuCash does in fact work that way, i.e. it imports all
> transactions in which the transfer account has not been specified to an
> Imbalance account for the currency of the primary account in the
> transaction. The presence of transactions in the Imbalance accounts is
> intended to trigger users that the transaction description is incomplete
> and
> that the correct account should be selected to replace the Imbalance
> account
> for the transaction.  In the majority of cases the transfer account is
> going
> to be an Income or Expense account. Where a transfer account is specified
> though, the label has to have been previously  mapped onto an internal
> account or a new internal account created and specified for it to be
> imported. The transaction record to be imported must specify a primary
> account label which is usually an asset or liability account and that label
> has to be mapped to an internal asset/liability account otherwise it does
> not know where to import it to.
>
> You could have an option whereby if a matching account label does not exist
> for the primary account for a transaction, GnuCash creates an account with
> the name. In the majority of cases for imported transactions, the primary
> account is going to be an asset or liability account. However, account
> structures in accounting have a structure which reflects how the business
> (even where it is simply personal accounting) operates and is financed and
> the asset and liability account structures are fairly strictly defined by
> the assets and liabilities you actually have. I would not want to have
> myaccounting program randomly creating new accounts in these categories
> every time it came across a label which had not been assigned to an
> existing
> internal account and I suspect that after experiencing it you may not
> either.
>
> A first time user new to accounting is always going to have trouble working
> out what goes where and why  which is why the GnuCash guide has a very
> brief
> introduction to accounting basics but nothing really replaces making
> mistakes.  Unfortunately most of us don't consult the documentation until
> we
> strike a problem, me included. The beauty of GnuCash is that if you do
> stuff
> it up you can at least correct it once your knowledge has built up.
>
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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

2021-03-26 Thread David Cousens


For the transfer account, the second account in a transaction being
imported, GnuCash does in fact work that way, i.e. it imports all
transactions in which the transfer account has not been specified to an
Imbalance account for the currency of the primary account in the
transaction. The presence of transactions in the Imbalance accounts is
intended to trigger users that the transaction description is incomplete and
that the correct account should be selected to replace the Imbalance account
for the transaction.  In the majority of cases the transfer account is going
to be an Income or Expense account. Where a transfer account is specified
though, the label has to have been previously  mapped onto an internal
account or a new internal account created and specified for it to be
imported. The transaction record to be imported must specify a primary
account label which is usually an asset or liability account and that label
has to be mapped to an internal asset/liability account otherwise it does
not know where to import it to. 

You could have an option whereby if a matching account label does not exist
for the primary account for a transaction, GnuCash creates an account with
the name. In the majority of cases for imported transactions, the primary 
account is going to be an asset or liability account. However, account
structures in accounting have a structure which reflects how the business
(even where it is simply personal accounting) operates and is financed and
the asset and liability account structures are fairly strictly defined by
the assets and liabilities you actually have. I would not want to have
myaccounting program randomly creating new accounts in these categories
every time it came across a label which had not been assigned to an existing
internal account and I suspect that after experiencing it you may not
either.

A first time user new to accounting is always going to have trouble working
out what goes where and why  which is why the GnuCash guide has a very brief
introduction to accounting basics but nothing really replaces making
mistakes.  Unfortunately most of us don't consult the documentation until we
strike a problem, me included. The beauty of GnuCash is that if you do stuff
it up you can at least correct it once your knowledge has built up.



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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

2021-03-26 Thread flywire
David, your response doesn't change:

> For csv transactions GnuCash pretty well prompts with the correct account
> each time, so [provide a setting] to accept all prompts.



1) From my experience it's unreasonable to assume user can assign accounts
when they don't understand the transactions. So, it IS easier to fix later.
2) Worst case, matcher wouldn't work which isn't an issue if it's not being
used to assign accounts. Elsewhere there's a suggestion to allow matcher to
be retrained on current data meaning it would work, and better.



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Re: [GNC] Report Printing

2021-03-26 Thread Philip Burg
   I save as html and then print with Word.
   With you date problem there is somewhere in settings to  change year
   start and end,  I can't check it for you at the moment as I am in
   Hospital.

   On 26 Mar 2021 19:09, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
wrote:

 I use GNUCash on Mac OSX 10.14 and I print by saving to a PDF file
 and
 then send the PDF to the printer.
 On 3/26/21 3:05 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
 > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:23 PM ZPBear 
 wrote:
 >
 >> Hello,My wife Jennifer has been using GnuCash for several
 years.Printing
 >> reports has never worked.I installed 4.4 today and still no
 good.The title
 >> shows 2020 (for the current tax year).When I choose Report /
 Account
 >> Summary the report opens with zero values and a 2019 title.Please
 explain
 >> why this is happening.
 >
 > I never use that report myself, but I just opened it on this
 computer and
 > it looks like the default is for it to show transactions to the
 date you
 > have defined for the accounting period. I don't know why it would
 have 2019
 > as any sort of option, but you CAN use the report options to
 change the
 > date (look for Options on the toolbar, or Edit --> Report
 Options).
 >
 > You also said "Printing reports has never worked" and that's a
 separate
 > issue. I don't know the current state of Windows versions of
 GnuCash, but
 > it could be that you will need to copy the report elsewhere, or
 print a PDF
 > version of the report first and print from there. On linux,
 whenever I go
 > to print I get to choose Print to File or Print to LPR (for the
 Flatpak
 > version of GnuCash). I don't think the LPR printer definition
 works, but I
 > haven't tried; since switching to Flatpak I always print to PDF
 first.
 >
 > Please let us know (by copying the list) whether any of these
 comments are
 > helpful.
 >
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Re: [GNC] Report Printing

2021-03-26 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
I use GNUCash on Mac OSX 10.14 and I print by saving to a PDF file and 
then send the PDF to the printer.



On 3/26/21 3:05 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:23 PM ZPBear  wrote:


Hello,My wife Jennifer has been using GnuCash for several years.Printing
reports has never worked.I installed 4.4 today and still no good.The title
shows 2020 (for the current tax year).When I choose Report / Account
Summary the report opens with zero values and a 2019 title.Please explain
why this is happening.


I never use that report myself, but I just opened it on this computer and
it looks like the default is for it to show transactions to the date you
have defined for the accounting period. I don't know why it would have 2019
as any sort of option, but you CAN use the report options to change the
date (look for Options on the toolbar, or Edit --> Report Options).

You also said "Printing reports has never worked" and that's a separate
issue. I don't know the current state of Windows versions of GnuCash, but
it could be that you will need to copy the report elsewhere, or print a PDF
version of the report first and print from there. On linux, whenever I go
to print I get to choose Print to File or Print to LPR (for the Flatpak
version of GnuCash). I don't think the LPR printer definition works, but I
haven't tried; since switching to Flatpak I always print to PDF first.

Please let us know (by copying the list) whether any of these comments are
helpful.



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Re: [GNC] Report Printing

2021-03-26 Thread Tommy Trussell
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:23 PM ZPBear  wrote:

> Hello,My wife Jennifer has been using GnuCash for several years.Printing
> reports has never worked.I installed 4.4 today and still no good.The title
> shows 2020 (for the current tax year).When I choose Report / Account
> Summary the report opens with zero values and a 2019 title.Please explain
> why this is happening.


I never use that report myself, but I just opened it on this computer and
it looks like the default is for it to show transactions to the date you
have defined for the accounting period. I don't know why it would have 2019
as any sort of option, but you CAN use the report options to change the
date (look for Options on the toolbar, or Edit --> Report Options).

You also said "Printing reports has never worked" and that's a separate
issue. I don't know the current state of Windows versions of GnuCash, but
it could be that you will need to copy the report elsewhere, or print a PDF
version of the report first and print from there. On linux, whenever I go
to print I get to choose Print to File or Print to LPR (for the Flatpak
version of GnuCash). I don't think the LPR printer definition works, but I
haven't tried; since switching to Flatpak I always print to PDF first.

Please let us know (by copying the list) whether any of these comments are
helpful.


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[GNC] Report Printing

2021-03-26 Thread ZPBear
Hello,My wife Jennifer has been using GnuCash for several years.Printing 
reports has never worked.I installed 4.4 today and still no good.The title 
shows 2020 (for the current tax year).When I choose Report / Account Summary 
the report opens with zero values and a 2019 title.Please explain why this is 
happening.Thank youGeffSent from my smarter than me smartphone.
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Re: [GNC] FW: Problem booting software

2021-03-26 Thread Mahon Finbar
I just had exactly the same issue! John Ralls and Alan Holmes provided 
me with answers.


Essentially it is because your installation doesn't seem to have 
'cleaned' the path when it installed the version you are using, afaics. 
I was using an earlier version of GnuCash for quite a while before it 
happened.


In the end I made sure I had a 'good' backup of the data and then 
uninstalled GC, using, in my case, an uninstall app., not the MS 
version, which removed all the entrails. I then made sure the backup was 
still there and installed the latest version of GC. I only seemed to 
have lost a few entries.


It worked for me, I don't understand why the issues arose after I had 
been using GC for months.


Barry

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When I try to launch gnucash I receive the attached error message.
I am running:
Gnucash v 4.4 however the problem started after I downloaded v4.3
Windows 10.0.1 Build 19041.
If I repeatable press OK the program eventually boots and operates well.

Any suggestions of how to fix this annoyance?

Tom Hoffman


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[GNC] FW: Problem booting software

2021-03-26 Thread Tom




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Subject: Problem booting software

When I try to launch gnucash I receive the attached error message.
I am running:
Gnucash v 4.4 however the problem started after I downloaded v4.3
Windows 10.0.1 Build 19041.
If I repeatable press OK the program eventually boots and operates well.

Any suggestions of how to fix this annoyance?

Tom Hoffman


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