Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[David Carlson]

There has been discussion here in the past about how to save backups of the
information that GnuCash saves in other folders.  I do not recall there
being a nice answer for users that wish it was all in one folder.

That information does not change much after the first year or two so
eventually a quarterly manual copy to some backup folder suffices for most
users.



On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 9:44 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Donna,
> I use the same Gnucash, but Windows 11.  1st, let me say that Geoff info
> was helpful. There are several folders on my system for gnucash, but all
> the data and backups reside in gnucash in my documents folder.  There are
> other files associated with gnucash that it puts in other places that I
> would not put in my main data files location.  When you say you have files
> in 3 locations, which files are you referring to?
>
> your questions:
>
>   1.  gnucash saves all data files in one location by default.  This
> includes your main data file, as .gnucash.  The log files that Goeff
> mentioned .gnucash.datetime.log and the lock file he mentioned
> .gnucash.LCK.
>   2.  As long as you didn't delete the .gnucash or any newer log files
> you should have been OK, but you probably deleted your current file and
> that is why you lost data.
>   3.  In the "Edit/Preferences/General", there is an Auto Save time
> Interval that you can set for it to create backups and a "Retain
> log/backups" for the number of days to save these backups.  This way it can
> do the deletions for you automatically and you don't have to worry about
> what files you are deleting.
>   4.  As Geoff said it will save the file to the same place it was
> retrieved from, unless you use "save as" and specify a different location.
>   5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't
> lose data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.
>
> Another helpful place to look is in "Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide".
> In the search box type "backing up and recovering data" enter and it will
> take you to the page explaining how to restore and helpful information
> about how every thing works.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user  on
> behalf of gra...@shaw.ca 
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:37 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information
>
> I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data.  I use
> Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)
>
> 1.  I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash.  I
> think I will use the xml format.  Currently it seems there are files in
> three different folders.
> How do I make sure to save everything to one folder?
>
> 2.  Can I move everything I have (which is in 3 different folders) to a
> folder named Gnucash without harm to the data I have entered.  (I
> previously
> had entered data for 2021, then deleted a bunch of files and most of the
> data disappeared.  The file types were text and gnucash financial data)
>
> 3.  How long do you need to keep the different files?
> Are there certain files needed to keep the data in the Gnucash system?  I
> have looked at the FAQ but still not clear.
>
> 4.  When you click the save button when entering transactions, how do
> you know where it is being saved to?  I'd like it to be saved in Gnucash
> folder, as indicated above.
>
> 5.  Back ups - I have read a lot about the back ups but still unsure
> what to do.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks all
> Donna
>
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[Gyle McCollam]

Donna,
I use the same Gnucash, but Windows 11.  1st, let me say that Geoff info was 
helpful. There are several folders on my system for gnucash, but all the data 
and backups reside in gnucash in my documents folder.  There are other files 
associated with gnucash that it puts in other places that I would not put in my 
main data files location.  When you say you have files in 3 locations, which 
files are you referring to?

your questions:

  1.  gnucash saves all data files in one location by default.  This includes 
your main data file, as .gnucash.  The log files that Goeff mentioned 
.gnucash.datetime.log and the lock file he mentioned .gnucash.LCK.
  2.  As long as you didn't delete the .gnucash or any newer log files you 
should have been OK, but you probably deleted your current file and that is why 
you lost data.
  3.  In the "Edit/Preferences/General", there is an Auto Save time Interval 
that you can set for it to create backups and a "Retain log/backups" for the 
number of days to save these backups.  This way it can do the deletions for you 
automatically and you don't have to worry about what files you are deleting.
  4.  As Geoff said it will save the file to the same place it was retrieved 
from, unless you use "save as" and specify a different location.
  5.  Geoff is also correct here that gnucash saves backup so you don't lose 
data, but backuping up to another media is always a good idea.

Another helpful place to look is in "Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide".  In 
the search box type "backing up and recovering data" enter and it will take you 
to the page explaining how to restore and helpful information about how every 
thing works.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of gra...@shaw.ca 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:37 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data.  I use
Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)

1.  I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash.  I
think I will use the xml format.  Currently it seems there are files in
three different folders.
How do I make sure to save everything to one folder?

2.  Can I move everything I have (which is in 3 different folders) to a
folder named Gnucash without harm to the data I have entered.  (I previously
had entered data for 2021, then deleted a bunch of files and most of the
data disappeared.  The file types were text and gnucash financial data)

3.  How long do you need to keep the different files?
Are there certain files needed to keep the data in the Gnucash system?  I
have looked at the FAQ but still not clear.

4.  When you click the save button when entering transactions, how do
you know where it is being saved to?  I'd like it to be saved in Gnucash
folder, as indicated above.

5.  Back ups - I have read a lot about the back ups but still unsure
what to do.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks all
Donna

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Geoff]

Hi Russell

I am running GnuCash v4.8 on Windows 10.  There are no problems 
selecting (from the left or the right) and editing amounts or any other 
fields.  I suspect your issues are due to the underlying GUI libraries 
that came with Mint and not GnuCash itself.


In the reconciliation window, as you observed, SPACE will select / 
deselect the current transaction, but not move to the next transaction. 
 As Gyle mentioned, using Ctrl-A and SPACE makes for a very speedy 
reconciliation.


Regards

Geoff
=

On 11/09/2022 12:43 am, Russell Gadd wrote:

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[brad]

I don't see your grey box issue.  I can click on any field, deposit, 
withdrawal, shares, etc and edit the number.  GC 4.8, xubuntu 20.04


On 9/10/22 08:43, Russell Gadd wrote:

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.


___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user]

David 

Thank you! I’m sorry, you’re quite right. I unintentionally pressed the wrong 
button. Thank you for pointing it out. 

Richard 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Sep 2022, at 23:04, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
> please use reply all or whatever your mail client requires to be sure 
>  gets a copy so others can see it.
> That is important because I have to tell others that you have now gone beyond 
> my area of expertise as a long term user and you now need help from someone 
> who knows more about Gnucash on versions of windows newer than XP.
> This time I am copying it to the list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 11:38 AM Richard Clarkson 
>>  wrote:
>> David
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for responding!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes I use the windows installer and I have tried letting the installer 
>> delete the previous version and have also tried deleting the previous 
>> version myself.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: David Carlson  
>> Sent: 10 September 2022 17:33
>> To: Gyle McCollam 
>> Cc: Richard Clarkson ; Gnucash Users 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard, 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org 
>> website for each gnucash version? 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use another 
>> method?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 11:18 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>> 
>> Does gnucash open, just not your data file? If so,  once opened try file 
>> open and select your ???.gnucash file. I'm on windows 11 and gnucash 4.11 
>> with no issues.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user 
>> Date: 9/10/22 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> Subject: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11
>> 
>> I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash following
>> upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
>> would overcome my problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
>> updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
>> gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
>> doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
>> thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
>> in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it should.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
>> issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
>> anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
>> be quite frustrating!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> ___
>> gnucash-user mailing list
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
>> -
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>> ___
>> gnucash-user mailing list
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
>> -
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Carlson
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

[GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

[grambo]

I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data.  I use
Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)

1.  I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash.  I
think I will use the xml format.  Currently it seems there are files in
three different folders.  
How do I make sure to save everything to one folder?

2.  Can I move everything I have (which is in 3 different folders) to a
folder named Gnucash without harm to the data I have entered.  (I previously
had entered data for 2021, then deleted a bunch of files and most of the
data disappeared.  The file types were text and gnucash financial data)

3.  How long do you need to keep the different files?  
Are there certain files needed to keep the data in the Gnucash system?  I
have looked at the FAQ but still not clear.

4.  When you click the save button when entering transactions, how do
you know where it is being saved to?  I'd like it to be saved in Gnucash
folder, as indicated above. 

5.  Back ups - I have read a lot about the back ups but still unsure
what to do.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks all
Donna

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[David Carlson]

Richard,
please use reply all or whatever your mail client requires to be sure <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> gets a copy so others can see it.
That is important because I have to tell others that you have now gone
beyond my area of expertise as a long term user and you now need help from
someone who knows more about Gnucash on versions of windows newer than XP.
This time I am copying it to the list.




On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 11:38 AM Richard Clarkson 
wrote:

> David
>
>
>
> Thanks for responding!
>
>
>
> Yes I use the windows installer and I have tried letting the installer
> delete the previous version and have also tried deleting the previous
> version myself.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> *From:* David Carlson 
> *Sent:* 10 September 2022 17:33
> *To:* Gyle McCollam 
> *Cc:* Richard Clarkson ; Gnucash Users <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on
> Windows 11
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org
> website for each gnucash version?
>
>
>
> Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use another
> method?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 11:18 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> Does gnucash open, just not your data file? If so,  once opened try file
> open and select your ???.gnucash file. I'm on windows 11 and gnucash 4.11
> with no issues.
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user 
> Date: 9/10/22 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11
>
> I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash
> following
> upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
> would overcome my problem.
>
>
>
> I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
> updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
> gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
> doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
> thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
> in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it
> should.
>
>
>
> I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
> issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.
>
>
>
> Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
> anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
> be quite frustrating!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
>

-- 
David Carlson
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[David Carlson]

Richard,

Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org
website for each gnucash version?

Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use another
method?




On Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 11:18 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Does gnucash open, just not your data file? If so,  once opened try file
> open and select your ???.gnucash file. I'm on windows 11 and gnucash 4.11
> with no issues.
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user 
> Date: 9/10/22 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11
>
> I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash
> following
> upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
> would overcome my problem.
>
>
>
> I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
> updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
> gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
> doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
> thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
> in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it
> should.
>
>
>
> I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
> issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.
>
>
>
> Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
> anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
> be quite frustrating!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> ___
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[Gyle McCollam]

Does gnucash open, just not your data file? If so,  once opened try file open 
and select your ???.gnucash file. I'm on windows 11 and gnucash 4.11 with no 
issues.



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user 
Date: 9/10/22 12:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash following
upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
would overcome my problem.



I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it should.



I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.



Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
be quite frustrating!



Richard

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

[GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

[Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user]

I previously posted (some time ago) about an issue opening GnuCash following
upgrade to a newer version. I decided to wait to see if a newer version
would overcome my problem.

 

I am on a Windows 11 PC, and am able to use GnuCash 4.9. I have tried
updating to GnuCash 4.10 and 4.11, unfortunately when  I try to open the
gnucash.exe on anything above the 4.9 version then nothing happens (it
doesn't make any difference if I start as an Administrator or not). Windows
thinks for 2 seconds and then does nothing. I can see no GnuCash processes
in Task Manager. Once I revert to version 4.9 everything works as it should.

 

I have tried downloading from sourceforge and GitHub, in case there was an
issue. I have tried turning of my Firewall and antivirus, but same issue.

 

Did something drastic chance be between version 4.9 and 4.10 or is there
anything else I can to see if I can overcome this problem? It's getting to
be quite frustrating!

 

Richard 

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a

[Geert Janssens]

Op zaterdag 10 september 2022 16:36:03 CEST schreef Phil Wolff:
> On 9/9/22 16:14, Geert Janssens wrote:
> 
> Op vrijdag 9 september 2022 22:19:08 CEST schreef Phil Wolff:
> > dellbert@dellbert:~$ gsettings get org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.register
> > 
> > double-line-mode true
> > 
> > dellbert@dellbert:~$
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But when I run gnucash all of my registers are single-line.
> 
> The only explanation I can come up with is that gnucash runs in a different
> environment than gsettings.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How do you start gnucash exactly ? From the command line or from the Ubuntu
> menus ?
> 
> I start by clicking on a Desktop icon. If I use the .desktop file from the
> package manager installation which contains the line "Exec=gnucash %f," I
> get a window titled "Unsaved Book - GnuCash" and I have to use File/Open to
> access my data file, so instead I use a copy of the .desktop file with the
> modified line "Exec=gnucash
> /home/dellbert/Documents/gnucash/Household.db.gnucash" to open the data
> file directly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And to test for the most relevant environment variable wrt to settings, can
> you add create a file named "config-user.scm" in $HOME/.config/gnucash
> 
> with this contents:
> 
> (use-modules (gnucash utilities)) 
> (gnc:warn "XDG__DATA_DIRS=" (getenv "XDG_DATA_DIRS"))
> 
> The next time you run gnucash this will add a line at the top of your
> gnucash.trace file showing the value of environment variable
> "XDG_DATA_DIRS".
> 
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat ~/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm
> (use-modules (gnucash utilities))
> (gnc:warn "XDG__DATA_DIRS=" (getenv "XDG_DATA_DIRS"))
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat /tmp/gnucash.trace
> cat: /tmp/gnucash.trace: No such file or directory
> 
> < run gnucash >
> 
> dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat /tmp/gnucash.trace
> * 11:14:57 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL'
> failed * 11:14:57  WARN 
> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown
> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general * 11:14:57 ERROR
>  GVariant* gnc_gsettings_get_user_value(const gchar*, const
> gchar*): assertion 'G_IS_SETTINGS (settings_ptr)' failed * 11:14:57 ERROR
>  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' failed *
> 11:14:57  WARN  [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()]
> Ignoring attempt to access unknown gsettings schema org.gnucash.general *
> 11:14:57 ERROR  GVariant* gnc_gsettings_get_user_value(const
> gchar*, const gchar*): assertion 'G_IS_SETTINGS (settings_ptr)' failed
> 14:57  WARN  [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()]
> Ignoring attempt to access unknown gsettings schema org.gnucash.general
> 
> 
> *
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Gyle McCollam]

Sorry,  I should have mentioned I'm on 4.11



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: Russell Gadd 
Date: 9/10/22 10:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Gnucash User Mail List 
Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] More UI downgrades

[Gyle McCollam]

Russ,
I don't get the grey box, but it won't swipe from right to left.  However, it 
does swipe from left to right, (huh?).  Hope this helps with that issue.

On your 2nd "gripe", that would be a nice enhancement or restoration if it used 
to work that way.  In case you are unaware, did you know that if you do CTRL 
"A" and space it will select all the transactions in that sub window, either 
"debit" or "credit" and then you can unselect those that didn't clear.  It may 
or may not be faster than the space bar causing it to move down automatically.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Russell Gadd 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:43 AM
To: Gnucash User Mail List 
Subject: [GNC] More UI downgrades

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

[GNC] More UI downgrades

[Russell Gadd]

It seems every time I upgrade there is some deterioration in user interface
design. I upgrade to Gnucash when I upgrade my Linux system. I've just
upgraded to Mint 21 which came with Guncash 4.8.

In this edition the edit of any amount now opens a grey box where the
number in it is unresponsive to the mouse so if you try to swipe across the
field to clear it it doesn't do anything. This is contrary to how all other
software since time immemorial behaved. You have to use the keyboard to
delete characters. How could the developers think this is an improvement?

While griping I will also mention the previous gripe I had. When
reconciling I used to use the space bar (I think, it was a long time ago)
to fill in the box and automatically move down to the next item. It made
reconciling pretty slick. Then it was "upgraded" so it no longer moves
down. You either have to use the mouse to fill in the boxes or hit the
space bar followed by the down arrow. I complained at the time but the
response was a justification which was impossible to understand, which I
took to be obfuscation of the fact that it could not be justified. Now
after such a long time how about reinstating the previous behaviour?

Otherwise great software. Many thanks for the dedication of the developers.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a

[Phil Wolff via gnucash-user]

   On 9/9/22 16:14, Geert Janssens wrote:

   Op vrijdag 9 september 2022 22:19:08 CEST schreef Phil Wolff:

   > dellbert@dellbert:~$ gsettings get
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.register

   > double-line-mode true

   > dellbert@dellbert:~$

   >

   > But when I run gnucash all of my registers are single-line.

   >

   >

   The only explanation I can come up with is that gnucash runs in a
   different environment than gsettings.

   How do you start gnucash exactly ? From the command line or from the
   Ubuntu menus ?

   I start by clicking on a Desktop icon. If I use the .desktop file from
   the package manager installation which contains the line "Exec=gnucash
   %f," I get a window titled "Unsaved Book - GnuCash" and I have to use
   File/Open to access my data file, so instead I use a copy of the
   .desktop file with the modified line "Exec=gnucash
   /home/dellbert/Documents/gnucash/Household.db.gnucash" to open the data
   file directly.

 And to test for the most relevant environment variable wrt to
 settings, can you add create a file named "config-user.scm" in
 $HOME/.config/gnucash

 with this contents:

 (use-modules (gnucash utilities))
 (gnc:warn "XDG__DATA_DIRS=" (getenv "XDG_DATA_DIRS"))
 The next time you run gnucash this will add a line at the top of
 your gnucash.trace file showing the value of environment variable
 "XDG_DATA_DIRS".

   dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat ~/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm
   (use-modules (gnucash utilities))
   (gnc:warn "XDG__DATA_DIRS=" (getenv "XDG_DATA_DIRS"))
   dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat /tmp/gnucash.trace
   cat: /tmp/gnucash.trace: No such file or directory
   < run gnucash >
   dellbert@dellbert:~$ cat /tmp/gnucash.trace
   * 11:14:57 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema !=
   NULL' failed
   * 11:14:57  WARN 
   [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown
   gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
   * 11:14:57 ERROR  GVariant*
   gnc_gsettings_get_user_value(const gchar*, const gchar*): assertion
   'G_IS_SETTINGS (settings_ptr)' failed
   * 11:14:57 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema !=
   NULL' failed
   * 11:14:57  WARN 
   [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown
   gsettings schema org.gnucash.general
   * 11:14:57 ERROR  GVariant*
   gnc_gsettings_get_user_value(const gchar*, const gchar*): assertion
   'G_IS_SETTINGS (settings_ptr)' failed
   14:57  WARN 
   [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown
   gsettings schema org.gnucash.general

   *

   I've started gnucash using both .desktop files as described above, with
   identical results - the line you expected at the top of the file is not
   there.

   Is it expected that gnucash is attempting to read both
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general and org.gnucash.general?

 I'd like to know what this is. And can you compare it to what
 XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to in your terminal ?

   At login:

   dellbert@dellbert:~$ echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS
   /usr/share/ubuntu-xorg:/usr/share/gnome:/home/dellbert/.local/share/fla
   tpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share/:/us
   r/share/:/var/lib/snapd/desktop

 Regards,

 Geert
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

[Gyle McCollam]

Richard,
You may not have closed it correctly, however in that case you would have 
gotten a message that the file was locked with options on opening.  Gnucash 
opens the last file, so you may have lost some data.  To be sure you have the 
latest file use open/file and select the most recent ???.gnucash file not any 
of the log files or files with dates as part of the name.  Then try 
Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide.  In the search box type "log files" enter 
and it will take you to the page explaining how to restore.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Richard Barmann 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:35 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

[GNC] Opening Gnucash

[Richard Barmann]

When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It 
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the 
entries up to date.


Richard Barmann

___
gnucash-user mailing list
gnucash-user@gnucash.org
To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
-
Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.