Re: [GNC] FAQ (WAS: End of Year?)

2024-01-14 Thread Adrien Monteleone

I agree.

I think part of this is UI design choices. It isn't that GnuCash made 
wrong ones, but rather that folks might be more familiar with other 
design patterns. These might also be the folks that don't like to read 
manuals. They are never going away, though some may eventually relent 
and crack the books, and there will always be a new crop of users in 
this category.


It was these folks that I was alluding too with my comment about 
re-working the website to more prominently highlight the various help & 
documentation resources.


Also, we don't know or hear from new users who *do* bother to read first 
and/or experiment and investigate on their own before asking questions. 
They might far outnumber the first crowd.


Having first used computers in the very early 80s, by the time I found 
GnuCash, I was already quite used to apps with extensive menus and lots 
of functions and features. And I was already somewhat versed in 
double-entry and basic accounting with no illusions that it should be 
brain-dead easy, effortless, and simple. I also wasn't scared or timid 
with computers so much that I was paralyzed mentally from trying or 
testing anything with my financial data. I've crashed more apps and OSs 
and even fried more electronics than I can possibly list. (Losing a term 
paper you worked on for 12 hours straight because the system crashed 
when you tried to print it will teach you resilience like few other 
things can.) Thus, when I started using GnuCash, I had an entirely 
different perspective, expectation, and sense of adventure than likely 
anyone who is just now in 2023 wanting to 'get on a budget' and track 
their finances.


I offer that little story as an illustration that we are all coming to 
the use of GnuCash from vastly different places. That will never change. 
What can change is how GnuCash and its resources appear to the various 
perspectives of its users. But it doesn't have to change.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/14/24 4:04 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:

On a side rant, the fact that every year there is a spate of new users asking 
the same set of questions that are covered extensively in some form of the 
documentation underscores a disconnect that the community hasn't worked out.

For whatever reason, the disconnect between how Gnucash is viewed by the 
outside world and how it actually works seems to cause a significant range of 
new user difficulties.


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Re: [GNC] FAQ (WAS: End of Year?)

2024-01-14 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
For the record, I'm also against this popup, but for a different reason. 

The FAQ is an overwhelming never-shrinking aggregation of items that would be 
better placed in other documentation. Including it on a monthly basis would not 
really benefit a new user with a specific problem. When I go to the FAQ, I am 
usually forced to do a find in the page to locate anything.

On a side rant, the fact that every year there is a spate of new users asking 
the same set of questions that are covered extensively in some form of the 
documentation underscores a disconnect that the community hasn't worked out. 

For whatever reason, the disconnect between how Gnucash is viewed by the 
outside world and how it actually works seems to cause a significant range of 
new user difficulties. 

⁣David T.​

On Jan 14, 2024, 1:23 AM, at 1:23 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:
>Sorry, I would not like to see an FAQ pop up in this list on any 
>periodic basis.
>
>What you are describing there is akin to a 'sticky' or 'pinned' post in
>
>a web forum.
>
>This is not a web forum.
>
>We have the Wiki, which has the FAQ section. We also have the Help 
>Manual, and the Tutorial & Concepts Guide. Those are better places for 
>standard, regular advice on how to use the software. This list serves a
>
>different purpose — to offer assistance that those sources don't (maybe
>
>yet) cover.
>
>Some redesign of the website pointing to the FAQ might be in order, but
>
>that would take some careful analysis, and of course, someone to code 
>the changes.
>
>Regards,
>Adrien
>
>On 1/13/24 11:19 AM, R Losey wrote:
>> But the larger issue is that I believe this email list could benefit
>from a
>> FAQ that is posted monthly or every other month to this group. The
>wiki has
>> some neat ideas about tracking year to year equity growth.
>
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