[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-26 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Rick Anderson wrote: Researchers tend to see OA models as presenting a mixed bag of upsides and downsides (as any publishing model does). Open Access is NOT a publishing model. It is a descriptive binary property of an article: is it available electronically, without fee, from an easily

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-26 Thread Jan Velterop
Open Access is NOT a publishing model Exactly right. OA is a characteristic of an item of scholarly literature. Not even of a journal or publisher (though all items/articles they publish may of course be OA, in which case the terms 'OA journal' and 'OA publisher' are shorthand for that). This

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-26 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Jan, There are reasons for requiring green deposit even where an article is already OA on the journal. First, that canchange - one of my articles was published in a new Journal (Vol 2(2)) which a couple of years later was sold by bepress to iley and became closed - very annoyingly to me on

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-26 Thread Arthur Sale
] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 11:41 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Jan Velterop Cc: Rick Anderson; scholc...@ala.org; LibLicense-L Discussion Forum Subject: [GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs) Jan, There are reasons for requiring

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-25 Thread Joseph Esposito
By unanimity I believe Professor Harnad means among people he knows. Joe Esposito On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Rick Anderson rick.ander...@utah.eduwrote: there is unanimity among researchers about desiring -- even if not daring, except if mandated, to provide -- OA to peer-reviewed

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-25 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Rick Anderson rick.ander...@utah.eduwrote: *SH: *there is unanimity among researchers about desiring -- even if not daring, except if mandated, to provide -- OA to peer-reviewed journal articles If researchers unanimously desired OA, then there would be an

[GOAL] Re: [SCHOLCOMM] Unanimity (Re: Monographs)

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Anderson
Independent and critical thinking researchers will act according to the evidence: depend on it. They may be slow, but they are not stupid… Not only do I agree that they're not stupid, I wouldn't even say that they're slow. And as for acting according to the evidence, I couldn't agree with you