[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Jan Velterop
Steve, I wasn't clear. The 'similarity' refers to the idea of a repository for depositing preprints, as opposed to the published version of record. That's all. Don't read too much in the example. ArXiv allows CC-BY-NC-SA, which I don't advocate. But arXiv is just an example I had in mind. If Ep

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Frederick Friend
, it is good to see this proposal appear as a way of testing out how the decision-makers will react. Fred Friend http://www.friendofopenaccess.org.uk From: Jan Velterop Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:15 PM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: CC-BY in

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Hitchcock
Jan, What similarities with arXiv are you referring to? Arxiv allows an author to attach specific CC licences (two are allowable); EPrints presents the author with this option at deposit. But it is not mandated, and how commonly is this option taken by authors, in arXiv or any other repository?

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Garret McMahon
Hopefully germane to this (developing) position, I've pushed for a CC-BY use licence on all content exposed through the soon to be launched Research Portal/IR at QUB. The leverage provided by RCUK's strong position on this is at least one positive during what has been a difficult summer for policy

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Laurent Romary
Maybe some publication repositories who would be ready to play the game, at institutional, national or thematic level, backed up by eminent and open (!) champions of the cause. Laurent Le 10 oct. 2012 à 13:15, Jan Velterop a écrit : > The only thing I'm not clear about is who the "we all" are w

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Jan Velterop
Peter, It would simplify things a lot. So, the norm would be (mandated where needed) to deposit one's final manuscript, accepted for publication after peer-review, with a CC-BY licence, in a suitable repository, as soon as possible upon acceptance for publication. This has many similarities w

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Johanna McEntyre
Me to - this is the fundamental blocker when we try to explore full text content exchange between repositories. Jo On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Laurent Romary wrote: > I would definitely support this. > Laurent > > Le 9 oct. 2012 à 23:28, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit : > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-10 Thread Laurent Romary
I would definitely support this. Laurent Le 9 oct. 2012 à 23:28, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit : > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jan Velterop wrote: > There is an inconsistency here, either way. We've always heard, from Stevan > Harnad, that the author was the one who intrinsically had copy

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jan Velterop wrote: > There is an inconsistency here, either way. We've always heard, from > Stevan Harnad, that the author was the one who intrinsically had copyright > on the manuscript version, so could deposit it, as an open access article, > in an open reposit

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
[Continuing the cross-posting as I think this is very impotrtant.] On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Jan Velterop wrote: > There is an inconsistency here, either way. We've always heard, from > Stevan Harnad, that the author was the one who intrinsically had copyright > on the manuscript version,

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-09 Thread Couture Marc
Jan Velterop wrote: > > We've always heard, from Stevan Harnad, that the author was the one who > intrinsically had copyright > on the manuscript version, so could deposit it, as an open access article, in > an open repository > irrespective of the publisher's views. If that is correct, then t

[GOAL] Re: CC-BY in repositories

2012-10-09 Thread Jan Velterop
On 9 Oct 2012, at 15:50, Ross Mounce wrote: [snip] > > Repositories cannot attach CC-BY licenses because most publishers still > insist on copyright transfer. (Global Green OA will put an end to this, but > not if it waits for CC-BY first.) > > I agree with the first half of the sentence BU