Re: [Goanet]Steel plant

2005-06-10 Thread Bernado Colaco
Nice one Afra! No airport no port no rail link nothing innit. all tosh in port time? B. Colaco Afra says: To smelt Iron Ore we need Lime Stone. From where was it going to come and by what means? During Port. period there was no infrastructure, it is just about happening now. Things

[Goanet]Re: Was Jinnah Secular?

2005-06-10 Thread sandeep heble
(RKN wrote: It's unfair to pick up bits and pieces out of context to paint someone a fundamentalist. The statements have to be read in the context of the social milieu and time in history to understand their true import.) While Jinnah may not have been a fundamentalist

Re: [Goanet]BYE ELECTION RESULTS

2005-06-10 Thread Bernado Colaco
Hello Antonio, Your long discourse on Goa contemprary politics does not provide any solutions. Goa needs solutions and not continued failures. B. Colcao money and more money thru which they got elected by making the voters fools and “gantta – Boills”. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait.

Re: [Goanet]Re:: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-10 Thread Mervyn Lobo
dudes @ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I send you copies because you send me articles he has written. The first one you sent me had a falsehood in almost every single paragraph. dudes, I also sent you articles from Thomas L. Friedman, see

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!(Fred)

2005-06-10 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Gabriel, You may be right as far as the origin of 'Sousa' is concerned. However in practice, almost all the De Souza's and D'Souza's residents in Goa, and whom I know, (not migrated out of Goa) and not brahmin have this spelling with a 'Z'. I have only met Goa brahmins who spell the same as

Re: [Goanet]My beer cap overfloweth

2005-06-10 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my Mum what was all this beer consumption about and was very quickly educated. Apparently Belo beer had a scheme going. Under each Belo beer cap is a prize. From a minimum of a guaranteed Rs. 2/-, one can win Rs. 5/-, Rs. 10/-, a 325 ml beer, a

[Goanet]Government Ministers: three observations

2005-06-10 Thread Constantino Xavier
WIDE VIEWS http://wideviews.blogspot.com This is my new weblog, from outside Goa, about Goa. Attached my first posting on Government Ministers: three observations. I hope to have your comments and start a constructive debate about the future of Goa. Thank you. Constantino Hermanns Xavier

[Goanet]RE: a good music to the goans

2005-06-10 Thread Errol Pinto
RJ = rio de janeiro TELERJ = telephone company of rio de janeiro -Original Message- From: novampb Dear people of Goa We hope do you like good music. I am a Brazilian musician and I invite you to ear the web radio of CREA-RJ and by clicking the window AO VIVO can you appreciate

[Goanet]Goa's Dirty Politicians Today's Headlines 10th June

2005-06-10 Thread jerry fernandes
Hello all I bet our politicians; especially Willy has not heard the story of the Goose that laid golden eggs. No wonder he wants to cut the goose to grab all the eggs at once. Elections are just two years away, and instead of doing well for the people, and getting elected for full 5-year term

[Goanet]Steel plant

2005-06-10 Thread afra dias
Mr Colaco wrote:  Strange how Goa which is/was rich in iron ore was not allowed to build mini steel plants. Neo imperalism has left us in the dark! B. Colaco Afra says: To smelt Iron Ore we need Lime Stone. From where was it going to come and by what means? During Port. period there was no

[Goanet]EARLY AMERICANS

2005-06-10 Thread Ricardo Nunes
They migrated to America from Asia but they are of Sino-Mongolian stock not of Aryan-Malay stock. To follow the pattern I would call them American Chinese rather than American Indians ... How about that? Arjun Message: 16 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:18:40 -0400 From: afra dias

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread Joe Vaz
Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would appreciate it if someone would tell me how Dr. Wilfred De Souza wrecked the educational system in Goa. I want to know this because I have an interest in education, not because I am a supporter or opponent of Dr. Willie. I am neither. Cheers,

Re: [Goanet]NCP threat subsides 7 INC MLA's inducted

2005-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 10/06/05, godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact the BJP insiders prefer to allow Dr Wilfred De Souza and Mr Mickey Pacheco to tender their resignations and trigger a political turmoil which will pave the way for the BJP to resign en masse this will meet their earlier demand

Re: [Goanet]Put Casteism in history's dustbin

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the modern world where people are judged by their achievements and not whether they were born to nobility or caste or even the color of their skin. Mario adds: All I can add is, Amen! However, one person responded to one of my posts on

Re: [Goanet]Re: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't mean the Top Thrill Dragster, the one-time fastest and highest Roller Coaster located at Cedar Point, Sandusky.;-) I can't handle the blood-rush after one of those rides. Pleeez !! Mario replies: Cornel, are you reading this to add to

[Goanet]Looking for water solutions in a dry Bagalkot, not far from Goa

2005-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
LOOKING FOR WATER SOLUTIONS IN A DRY BAGALKOT, NOT FAR FROM GOA In a dry South Indian region where the annual rainfall is around half-a-metre a year, officials believe that water-awareness can play a big role, even if the rain gods don't oblige. And they're marching to find a solution.

[Goanet]being nilly about willie

2005-06-10 Thread jose colaco
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is also responsible for wrecking the educational system in Goa, and later making an unsuccessful “U” turn on the subject. From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would appreciate it if someone would tell me how Dr. Wilfred De Souza wrecked

[Goanet]RSS blinked first!

2005-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4080840.stm Advani stays on as BJP's leader India's opposition leader LK Advani has taken back an offer to resign as president of his BJP party. BJP spokesman Sushma Swaraj announced the decision after a crisis meeting of the party. Mr Advani

Re: [Goanet]Anti-smoking fascism

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: There seems to be a wilful blindness among our citizens regarding the government proposal to ban images of smoking in film. Rather than condemning the step, they cheer our would-be censors on. Cecil: Indeed yes. How

[Goanet]NCP threat subsides 7 INC MLA's inducted

2005-06-10 Thread godfrey gonsalves
As is expected and customary with the Indian National Congress Party and its half blood brother the Nationalist Congress Party --(which incidentally came into being after the Maratha war lord Mr Sharad Pawar ex CM Mumbai and present Union Minister split from the INC to form the NCP as he

[Goanet]Remember these words.

2005-06-10 Thread Cynthia Fernandes
Don't let go of hope. Hope gives you the strength to keep going when you feel like giving up. Don't ever quit believing in yourself. As long as you believe you can, you will have a reason for trying. Don't let anyone hold your happiness in their hands; hold it in yours, so it will always be

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is also responsible for wrecking the educational system in Goa, and later making an unsuccessful “U” turn on the subject. I would appreciate it if someone would tell me how Dr. Wilfred De Souza wrecked the educational system in Goa. I want to know this

Re: Subject: Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!(Fred)

2005-06-10 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Fred, Thanks for the correction! I have not mistaken for the United Goans Party, which was lead by Jack Sequeira; however I must correct that, it's the 'Goa Congress Party' that was founded by Dr Wilfred and supported by Churchill; and I happened to be there for the launch. Luizinho Faleiro

[Goanet]First Goan in Canada???

2005-06-10 Thread Aloysius D'Souza
Hi Silviano, Ped Ruzar Fernandes is a figment of your imagination but my Grand-Father, Sylvester Philip D'Souza, was a very real person -- and he reached Montreal, Canada in 1918 after serving with an Indian Army group in France during the First World War, which ended in 1918 -- He died in

[Goanet]Pray for me, I have sinned

2005-06-10 Thread Salus Correia
Marlon wrote: I think the following lyrics by Gowan from his 80's hit A Criminal Mind are an apt response to your prayers for me... __ Not apt enough my friend. But you will still remain in my prayers! best, salus

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!(Fred)

2005-06-10 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His family name is written as: 'Sousa' the Bamon spelling and not 'Souza'. Nasci, The correct spelling is Sousa (from the Portuguese river Sousa). People who moved to British territories outside Goa 'anglicized' it to Souza, some going as far as

Re: [Goanet]Goa's Caste System - of (Church), Gaumkars, Bamons Chaddis

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I simply cannot understand the mentality of the bamon padri (the chaddi padri appeared on the scene much later ). A padri by profession is supposed to look after the spiritual welfare of his flock. Mario replies: It's very simple, Antonio. They

Re: FW: [Goanet]Goa - Dirty Politicians go Bollywood style ?

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thanks Simon. I was trying to get that name since April last year but in vein. Thanks again. --- Simon D'Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, The name of the movie is INQUILAB ZINDABAD. Simon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [Goanet]Re:: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
Mervyn, You can defend Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star all you like, but he is a prevaricating Saddam-supporting propagandist who cannot respond when I point out the numerous blatant lies he writes in his columns. I send you copies because you send me articles he has written. The first one

[Goanet]Re: *** Goanet Reader -- Of jobs and Goa... the unpleasant reality

2005-06-10 Thread James D'Souza
Dear Joseph, I am really surprised at reading your article below. Some of the comments made by you are really strange and do not actually make sense. QUOTE The number of Goan Hindus working in the Gulf is not as large as it could be because of the Islamic bogey; they simply do not want to

[Goanet]Shopkeeper gets Rs 2 crore power bill

2005-06-10 Thread Goa Desc
- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/

Re: Subject: Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!(Fred)

2005-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL! Nascy, I think you're mixing up the United Goans Party (lead by Dr Jack Sequeira, in the 'sixties and 'seventies) with the United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP, lead by Churchill Alemao earlier, Anacleto Viegas,

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!(Fred)

2005-06-10 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Hi Fred, I totally agree with you, as I knew Dr. Willie, a little bit, when I lived in Goa. In fact I was present as a silent person at the very meeting in Panjim, that was the start of the United Goans Party; I happened to be there, as I was asked to 'come along' by my then sarpanch. To my

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread Joe Vaz
Please note that I have made no such reference to caste or called Dr. Willy caste biased. All I said is that Dr. Willy has done more damage to Goa than good. This is one of the (if not main) politicians responsible for some of the political upheavals, party-hopping etc, thus bringing

[Goanet]St. Thomas Tomb in Madras

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
This photo was taken about 14 years ago.. St. Thomas (one of the 12 apostles) was buried in Madras, India. See pick below.. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joegoauk/album?.dir=3a19.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos [EMAIL PROTECTED] for NRI related info...

Re: [Goanet]A certain Dr Willy!

2005-06-10 Thread cornel
Hi Eric, I note your point. By now, believe you me, I really am keen to get off the caste debate on Goanet, except, if intellectually challenged or provoked. There is absolutely no pain for you to feel about. For me, it is about justified unease about the obscenity and effect of caste among the

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread cornel
Dear Mr Alfred de Tavares, I reckon you were awake, but only partially so, when you responded to my post on Dr. Willie de Souza! I say this because you failed to: a) respond to my earlier email to you, specifically asking for an explanation for referring to the anti-casteists as fighting like

[Goanet]Bhatkal (Mini Dubai) Murdeshwar (Beach Giant Lord Shiva Statue)

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Mini Dubai in Bhatkal (after Karwar, in Karnataka State) become very popular with Goans. I first heard about it 5 years ago. People (including traders) go there for shopping foreign goods mainly gulf products(dont know about North Goans). As I like seeing new places, we decided to go there too

[Goanet]Casteeism

2005-06-10 Thread Vivian D'Souza
Are we tilting at windmills ??? What is going on here ? Now we find casteeism as the motive or reason behind everything and everybody. Is this only the perception of NRIs ? In Goa I dont find anyone except those of the Hindu faith talking about caste . What is going on here ? Cant't we leave our

[Goanet]Babush's warm heart

2005-06-10 Thread sunil monteiro
No wonder Goa is getting famous as a whore house wonder why you think it like that and if so why don't you do something rather than just complaining? Why complain complain why not improve and change for betterment? The rest of your life are you just going to keep on complaining? If you so

Re: [Goanet]A certain Dr Willy!

2005-06-10 Thread gipsport
Dr Willy appears to be selfish and greedy? The NCP are only two out of 21 elected MLAs! He has been made the Deputy CM (Undeservedly). why are they (NCP in Goa) not able to be elected as a majority party? cause they are not fit and want to enter the scene through the BACK DOOR! - Original

Re: [Goanet]Babush's warm heart?

2005-06-10 Thread gipsport
How many politicians can you name that have not destroyed lives?? How many politicians (in Goa) can you name that have done what good Babush has done in his constituency Look at the facts and than pass your comments! There are always two sides to a story - why is it (the sex scandal)

[Goanet]GOA: A GUINEA PIG FOR WILD IDEAS?

2005-06-10 Thread Philip Thomas
the Union Finance Minister P. Chidambaram's suggestion that a SEZ (special economic zone), an idea which has been in the air for many years now, needs to be implemented right away.[Goanet Reader June 9] Goa is ideal for having a special economic zone[HERALD, June 3] Does Goa have a tendency to

[Goanet]Anti-smoking fascism

2005-06-10 Thread Cecil Pinto
Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: There seems to be a wilful blindness among our citizens regarding the government proposal to ban images of smoking in film. Rather than condemning the step, theyt cheer our would-be censors on. Cecil: Indeed yes. How strange that except for a few voices nobody has really

[Goanet]Goenkars - health warning alert!

2005-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=635702005 Ibuprofen increases risk of heart attacks LOUISE GRAY COMMON painkillers such as ibuprofen could significantly increase the risk of a heart attack, research warned yesterday. Scots are regularly prescribed the drug to deal with painful conditions

Re: [Goanet]Pray for me, for I have sinned

2005-06-10 Thread Marlon Menezes
Salus, I think the following lyrics by Gowan from his 80's hit A Criminal Mind are an apt response to your prayers for me. . . . Before you hand me over Before you read my sentence I'd like to say a few words Here in my own defense Some people struggle daily They struggle with their concience

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread Alfred de Tavares
My dear Gabe, Victor, Thanks for pointing out the omission. I noticed it the moment I pressed 'send' and sent in the corrected version: viz. I won't extol Willie's better qualities besides asserting that he has many fine ones. The man certainly has faults; quite a few, but casteism is

[Goanet]BYE ELECTION RESULTS

2005-06-10 Thread A. Veronica Fernandes
BYE ELECTION RESULTS. And finally inevitable has happened and as expected all favourites got victory thereby giving a strong defeat to communal Parrikar and his super communal party BJP. I am not more happy that 4 seats went to the Congressmen but I am more happy because communal BJP and

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/06/05, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Wilfred de Souza reminds me of an earlier generation, which felt superior mainly on the grounds that they were Catholic, of an upper-middle class background, and simultaneously very highly educated in times when few had access to

[Goanet]Re: Beatifull Goan Flowers for Sale........ Alfinet

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thank you Jerry for your feed back. I do appreciate. There is a flower see new link below (not a slide show) locally named as 'alfinet'. For that matter, there is also one called 'butanv' (button), St.Anton (st. Anthony) These are all local names and may differ from village to village or

[Goanet]NEWS: Catholic Church Joins Hands With Bollywood To Spread Message On HIV/AIDS

2005-06-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Catholic Church Joins Hands With Bollywood To Spread Message On HIV/AIDS By SAR NEWS NEW DELHI, (SAR NEWS) -- A Delhi-based Roman Catholic priest has joined hands with the Hindi film industry in Mumbai to make a commercial film highlighting the dangers of unsafe sex. Spokesperson of the

[Goanet]Re: Was Jinnah Secular?

2005-06-10 Thread carlos6143
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050609/asp/nation/story_4845560.asp If any one who should be annoyed by Lalji?s (Advani) remark, it should be the Congress,? George Fernandes said in Guwahati. Quoting veteran politicians and historians, Fernandes said it was Jawaharlal Nehru and the Congress who

[Goanet]..and Soon, the Goa's people may say or realise...

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
Parikar Govt. was the best. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1

[Goanet]Goa's Dirty Politicians Today's Headlines 10th June

2005-06-10 Thread JoeGoaUk
CONGRES-NCP SET FOR SHOWDOWN (Herald) Willy Co threaten to pull out and form alternate Govt with BJP, MGP. Says, Congress is more communal than BJP NCP THREATEN TO QUIT, WANTS BERTH FOR MICKKEY (Navhind Times) NCP TAKES BALCKMAILING AND GOA'S POLITICS TO A NEW LOW (Goamantktimes) Sharad Pawar

RE: [Goanet]New face of Journalism - Ethel da Costa

2005-06-10 Thread Nasci Caldeira
From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]New face of Journalism - Ethel da Costa Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:20:45 +0530 HEART 2 HEART Herald (June 6) What's the new face of journalism? By ETHEL DA COSTA what had me intrigued was the line of debate that emerged during the

Re: [Goanet]Re: Was Jinnah Secular?

2005-06-10 Thread carlos6143
Halur, If the socialist Nehru had allowed Jinnah to be the PM of India, Pakistan would not have existed. We all could have lived as a happy familly in a true secular India. Regards, Carlos halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Jinnah was secular, Pakisan would not exist. Or else the

[Goanet]Goanet Reader -- Of jobs and Goa... the unpleasant reality

2005-06-10 Thread Philip Thomas
But the fact that these two issues -- employment, good governance -- were the big ones are an indicator, or symptom, of the larger problems facing Goa today. Unemployment has been happening because of a rapid rise in the population. There are simply not enough jobs going around for everybody.

[Goanet]Advani becomes a hit with Pak media

2005-06-10 Thread carlos6143
Advani becomes a hit with Pak media Indo-Asian News Service Islamabad, June 9, 2005|15:33 IST BJP leader LK Advani's resignation as party president has sparked off a guessing game in the Pakistan media over his motives, with some saying that it was meant to widen his support base. Most